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Is this an example of a Neapolitan chord?
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The chord that goes on the fourth and fifth bars of my attachment above looks like a Neapolitan chord. (The C at the end of the fifth bar as a passing tone) In fact, the chord progression appears as if it is I - N - V6 in C major. (C - D♭ - G/B) Am I right?
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The chord that goes on the fourth and fifth bars of my attachment above looks like a Neapolitan chord. (The C at the end of the fifth bar as a passing tone) In fact, the chord progression appears as if it is I - N - V6 in C major. (C - D♭ - G/B) Am I right?
chords chord-progressions
asked Mar 17 at 11:55
Maika SakuranomiyaMaika Sakuranomiya
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Where are you getting the G/B? I see the B....
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:58
Although it is only written with Bs, it is G/B chord.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 17 at 12:58
1
How do you know that? That is my question. What comes next?
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:59
1
Thanks for the link! For other viewers, that link is the Liszt piano transcription of Beethoven's Symphony No. 3 in E Flat Major "Eroica", and this excerpt is of the funeral march movement's transition from the trio back to the minor-key outer march section.
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:28
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@MaikaSakuranomiya - No, I mean "outer march"-"trio"-"outer march", with the trio being the "inner march".
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:35
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The chord that goes on the fourth and fifth bars of my attachment above looks like a Neapolitan chord. (The C at the end of the fifth bar as a passing tone) In fact, the chord progression appears as if it is I - N - V6 in C major. (C - D♭ - G/B) Am I right?
chords chord-progressions
asked Mar 17 at 11:55
Maika SakuranomiyaMaika Sakuranomiya
9231430
The chord that goes on the fourth and fifth bars of my attachment above looks like a Neapolitan chord. (The C at the end of the fifth bar as a passing tone) In fact, the chord progression appears as if it is I - N - V6 in C major. (C - D♭ - G/B) Am I right?
chords chord-progressions
chords chord-progressions
asked Mar 17 at 11:55
Maika SakuranomiyaMaika Sakuranomiya
9231430
asked Mar 17 at 11:55
Maika SakuranomiyaMaika Sakuranomiya
9231430
asked Mar 17 at 11:55
Maika SakuranomiyaMaika Sakuranomiya
9231430
asked Mar 17 at 11:55
Maika SakuranomiyaMaika Sakuranomiya
9231430
asked Mar 17 at 11:55
Maika SakuranomiyaMaika Sakuranomiya
9231430
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Where are you getting the G/B? I see the B....
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:58
Although it is only written with Bs, it is G/B chord.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 17 at 12:58
1
How do you know that? That is my question. What comes next?
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:59
1
Thanks for the link! For other viewers, that link is the Liszt piano transcription of Beethoven's Symphony No. 3 in E Flat Major "Eroica", and this excerpt is of the funeral march movement's transition from the trio back to the minor-key outer march section.
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:28
1
@MaikaSakuranomiya - No, I mean "outer march"-"trio"-"outer march", with the trio being the "inner march".
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:35
|
show 4 more comments
1
Where are you getting the G/B? I see the B....
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:58
Although it is only written with Bs, it is G/B chord.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 17 at 12:58
1
How do you know that? That is my question. What comes next?
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:59
1
Thanks for the link! For other viewers, that link is the Liszt piano transcription of Beethoven's Symphony No. 3 in E Flat Major "Eroica", and this excerpt is of the funeral march movement's transition from the trio back to the minor-key outer march section.
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:28
1
@MaikaSakuranomiya - No, I mean "outer march"-"trio"-"outer march", with the trio being the "inner march".
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:35
1
1
Where are you getting the G/B? I see the B....
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:58
Where are you getting the G/B? I see the B....
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:58
Although it is only written with Bs, it is G/B chord.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 17 at 12:58
Although it is only written with Bs, it is G/B chord.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 17 at 12:58
1
1
How do you know that? That is my question. What comes next?
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:59
How do you know that? That is my question. What comes next?
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:59
1
1
Thanks for the link! For other viewers, that link is the Liszt piano transcription of Beethoven's Symphony No. 3 in E Flat Major "Eroica", and this excerpt is of the funeral march movement's transition from the trio back to the minor-key outer march section.
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:28
Thanks for the link! For other viewers, that link is the Liszt piano transcription of Beethoven's Symphony No. 3 in E Flat Major "Eroica", and this excerpt is of the funeral march movement's transition from the trio back to the minor-key outer march section.
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:28
1
1
@MaikaSakuranomiya - No, I mean "outer march"-"trio"-"outer march", with the trio being the "inner march".
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:35
@MaikaSakuranomiya - No, I mean "outer march"-"trio"-"outer march", with the trio being the "inner march".
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:35
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Yes, it's a Neapolitan chord. Because of the arpeggio, it's not in the usual position (F-A♭-D♭-F). The last three notes are D♭-C-B which is a common melodic figure over a N6-V transition.
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ttwttw
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That's right! C can not only be a passing tone as the attachment I've uploaded, but also a Cadential 6/4 in some cases.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 19 at 4:24
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I'd say yes: Beethoven is kind of on the nose here and outlines a D flat major chord in the 5th bar of the excerpt. It's followed by dominant-function leading tones. Right after that and outside of the excerpt, G's play, and then the rest of the piece continues with C minor chord figurations. Sounds like a Neapolitan chord that properly resolves to me.
Interpretation ambiguity can still reign, though: the 3rd and 4th bars of that excerpt can easily be interpreted as outlining an F minor chord, IMO, as long as you ditch the E in the third bar early in.
answered Mar 17 at 13:33
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Yes, it's a Neapolitan chord. Because of the arpeggio, it's not in the usual position (F-A♭-D♭-F). The last three notes are D♭-C-B which is a common melodic figure over a N6-V transition.
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That's right! C can not only be a passing tone as the attachment I've uploaded, but also a Cadential 6/4 in some cases.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 19 at 4:24
add a comment |
Yes, it's a Neapolitan chord. Because of the arpeggio, it's not in the usual position (F-A♭-D♭-F). The last three notes are D♭-C-B which is a common melodic figure over a N6-V transition.
edited Mar 17 at 20:55
Glorfindel
1,30211218
answered Mar 17 at 13:30
ttwttw
9,146932
That's right! C can not only be a passing tone as the attachment I've uploaded, but also a Cadential 6/4 in some cases.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 19 at 4:24
add a comment |
Yes, it's a Neapolitan chord. Because of the arpeggio, it's not in the usual position (F-A♭-D♭-F). The last three notes are D♭-C-B which is a common melodic figure over a N6-V transition.
edited Mar 17 at 20:55
Glorfindel
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answered Mar 17 at 13:30
ttwttw
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Yes, it's a Neapolitan chord. Because of the arpeggio, it's not in the usual position (F-A♭-D♭-F). The last three notes are D♭-C-B which is a common melodic figure over a N6-V transition.
edited Mar 17 at 20:55
Glorfindel
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answered Mar 17 at 13:30
ttwttw
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Glorfindel
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Glorfindel
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That's right! C can not only be a passing tone as the attachment I've uploaded, but also a Cadential 6/4 in some cases.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 19 at 4:24
add a comment |
That's right! C can not only be a passing tone as the attachment I've uploaded, but also a Cadential 6/4 in some cases.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 19 at 4:24
That's right! C can not only be a passing tone as the attachment I've uploaded, but also a Cadential 6/4 in some cases.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 19 at 4:24
That's right! C can not only be a passing tone as the attachment I've uploaded, but also a Cadential 6/4 in some cases.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 19 at 4:24
add a comment |
I'd say yes: Beethoven is kind of on the nose here and outlines a D flat major chord in the 5th bar of the excerpt. It's followed by dominant-function leading tones. Right after that and outside of the excerpt, G's play, and then the rest of the piece continues with C minor chord figurations. Sounds like a Neapolitan chord that properly resolves to me.
Interpretation ambiguity can still reign, though: the 3rd and 4th bars of that excerpt can easily be interpreted as outlining an F minor chord, IMO, as long as you ditch the E in the third bar early in.
answered Mar 17 at 13:33
DekkadeciDekkadeci
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I'd say yes: Beethoven is kind of on the nose here and outlines a D flat major chord in the 5th bar of the excerpt. It's followed by dominant-function leading tones. Right after that and outside of the excerpt, G's play, and then the rest of the piece continues with C minor chord figurations. Sounds like a Neapolitan chord that properly resolves to me.
Interpretation ambiguity can still reign, though: the 3rd and 4th bars of that excerpt can easily be interpreted as outlining an F minor chord, IMO, as long as you ditch the E in the third bar early in.
answered Mar 17 at 13:33
DekkadeciDekkadeci
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I'd say yes: Beethoven is kind of on the nose here and outlines a D flat major chord in the 5th bar of the excerpt. It's followed by dominant-function leading tones. Right after that and outside of the excerpt, G's play, and then the rest of the piece continues with C minor chord figurations. Sounds like a Neapolitan chord that properly resolves to me.
Interpretation ambiguity can still reign, though: the 3rd and 4th bars of that excerpt can easily be interpreted as outlining an F minor chord, IMO, as long as you ditch the E in the third bar early in.
answered Mar 17 at 13:33
DekkadeciDekkadeci
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I'd say yes: Beethoven is kind of on the nose here and outlines a D flat major chord in the 5th bar of the excerpt. It's followed by dominant-function leading tones. Right after that and outside of the excerpt, G's play, and then the rest of the piece continues with C minor chord figurations. Sounds like a Neapolitan chord that properly resolves to me.
Interpretation ambiguity can still reign, though: the 3rd and 4th bars of that excerpt can easily be interpreted as outlining an F minor chord, IMO, as long as you ditch the E in the third bar early in.
answered Mar 17 at 13:33
DekkadeciDekkadeci
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answered Mar 17 at 13:33
DekkadeciDekkadeci
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answered Mar 17 at 13:33
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Where are you getting the G/B? I see the B....
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:58
Although it is only written with Bs, it is G/B chord.
– Maika Sakuranomiya
Mar 17 at 12:58
1
How do you know that? That is my question. What comes next?
– David Bowling
Mar 17 at 12:59
1
Thanks for the link! For other viewers, that link is the Liszt piano transcription of Beethoven's Symphony No. 3 in E Flat Major "Eroica", and this excerpt is of the funeral march movement's transition from the trio back to the minor-key outer march section.
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:28
1
@MaikaSakuranomiya - No, I mean "outer march"-"trio"-"outer march", with the trio being the "inner march".
– Dekkadeci
Mar 17 at 13:35