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Triple Pythagorean with $a^2+b^2=c^4$
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It is well known that there exist integer solutions to the equation $a^2+b^2=c^2$.
For example, an explicit formula for integer values of $a$ , $b$ , and $c$ is
begin{align}a&=2mn \ b&=m^2-n^2 \ c&=m^2+n^2.end{align}
I want to find solutions to the equation $a^2+b^2=c^4$. However, I got $a,b,c$ in a general form that substitutes $x$ in integer and get $a,b,c$ in the integer. What should I do first? I'm very stuck!
elementary-number-theory diophantine-equations pythagorean-triples
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It is well known that there exist integer solutions to the equation $a^2+b^2=c^2$.
For example, an explicit formula for integer values of $a$ , $b$ , and $c$ is
begin{align}a&=2mn \ b&=m^2-n^2 \ c&=m^2+n^2.end{align}
I want to find solutions to the equation $a^2+b^2=c^4$. However, I got $a,b,c$ in a general form that substitutes $x$ in integer and get $a,b,c$ in the integer. What should I do first? I'm very stuck!
elementary-number-theory diophantine-equations pythagorean-triples
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It is well known that there exist integer solutions to the equation $a^2+b^2=c^2$.
For example, an explicit formula for integer values of $a$ , $b$ , and $c$ is
begin{align}a&=2mn \ b&=m^2-n^2 \ c&=m^2+n^2.end{align}
I want to find solutions to the equation $a^2+b^2=c^4$. However, I got $a,b,c$ in a general form that substitutes $x$ in integer and get $a,b,c$ in the integer. What should I do first? I'm very stuck!
elementary-number-theory diophantine-equations pythagorean-triples
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It is well known that there exist integer solutions to the equation $a^2+b^2=c^2$.
For example, an explicit formula for integer values of $a$ , $b$ , and $c$ is
begin{align}a&=2mn \ b&=m^2-n^2 \ c&=m^2+n^2.end{align}
I want to find solutions to the equation $a^2+b^2=c^4$. However, I got $a,b,c$ in a general form that substitutes $x$ in integer and get $a,b,c$ in the integer. What should I do first? I'm very stuck!
elementary-number-theory diophantine-equations pythagorean-triples
elementary-number-theory diophantine-equations pythagorean-triples
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Your equation, $a^2 + b^2 = c^4$, is the same as $a^2 + b^2 = c^2$, except that $c$ has been replaced with $c^2$. Thus you can find solutions by choosing $m$ and $n$ so that
$$
begin{align}
a&=2mn \ b&=m^2-n^2 \ c^2&=m^2+n^2.
end{align}
$$
But how can you make sure that $c$ is an integer? Easy: that last equation, $c^2 = m^2 + n^2$ says that $m,n$ and $c$ also form a Pythagorean triple. Thus you can find solutions with two new parameters, $r$ and $s$ such that
$$
begin{align}
m&=2rs \ n&=r^2-s^2 \ c&=r^2+s^2.
end{align}
$$
Substituting these in the first set of equations to find $a$ and $b$, you have
$$
begin{align}
a&=4rs(r^2-s^2) \ b&=6r^2 s^2-r^4-s^4 \ c&=r^2 + s^2.
end{align}
$$
For example, choosing $r=2$ and $s=1$ gives you $a = 24$, $b=7$, $c=5$ and, indeed, $24^2 + 7^2 = 5^4$.
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Finding any triplet where C is an odd square will satisfy the equation because the square root of C taken to the 4th power does is.
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– poetasis
9 hours ago
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Whenever you have $a^2+b^2=c^2$ you also get $(ca)^2+(cb)^2=c^4$ -- does that count for you?
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+1, but are those all solutions?
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– tarit goswami
Mar 22 at 3:10
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You are looking for a Pythagorean triple where the hypotenuse is an odd square. You can find if such a triple exists if you try values of $n$ in the following formula where $C$ is the odd square: $$k=frac{-(2n-1)+sqrt{2C-(2n-1)^2}}{2}$$
from $1$ up to the point where $n^2+1>C$. If $k$ is an integer for any value(s) of $n$, then you can find A,B,C substituting $n$ and $k$ into the following functions:
$$A=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)k$$
$$B=2(2n-1)k+2 k^2$$
$$C=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)k+2k^2$$
If no integer $k$ is found for any value tested up to where $n^2+1>C$, then no triangle exists for that value of C. Remember that C must be an odd square for this to work because you are looking for one where $C^2=c^4$.
Some other triples that satisfy this equation are (41, 840, 29),
(239, 28560, 169),
(63, 216, 15),
(369, 7560, 87),
(175, 600, 25),
(1025, 21000, 145),
(161, 240, 17),
(343, 1176, 35),
(721, 5280, 73),
(959, 9360, 97),
(567, 1944, 45),
(1183, 4056, 65),
(1575, 5400, 75),
(527, 336, 25),
(1241, 2520, 53),
(2023, 6936, 85),
(3281, 18480, 137),
(2527, 8664, 95),
(1071, 1080, 39),
(1449, 2160, 51),
(3087, 10584, 105),
(1081, 840, 37),
(2047, 3696, 65),
(3703, 12696, 115),
(4375, 15000, 125),
(5103, 17496, 135),
(5887, 20184, 145),
(1519, 720, 41),
(4681, 10920, 109),
(6727, 23064, 155),
(7623, 26136, 165),
(2975, 3000, 65),
(4025, 6000, 85),
(8575, 29400, 175),
(9583, 32856, 185).
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Your equation, $a^2 + b^2 = c^4$, is the same as $a^2 + b^2 = c^2$, except that $c$ has been replaced with $c^2$. Thus you can find solutions by choosing $m$ and $n$ so that
$$
begin{align}
a&=2mn \ b&=m^2-n^2 \ c^2&=m^2+n^2.
end{align}
$$
But how can you make sure that $c$ is an integer? Easy: that last equation, $c^2 = m^2 + n^2$ says that $m,n$ and $c$ also form a Pythagorean triple. Thus you can find solutions with two new parameters, $r$ and $s$ such that
$$
begin{align}
m&=2rs \ n&=r^2-s^2 \ c&=r^2+s^2.
end{align}
$$
Substituting these in the first set of equations to find $a$ and $b$, you have
$$
begin{align}
a&=4rs(r^2-s^2) \ b&=6r^2 s^2-r^4-s^4 \ c&=r^2 + s^2.
end{align}
$$
For example, choosing $r=2$ and $s=1$ gives you $a = 24$, $b=7$, $c=5$ and, indeed, $24^2 + 7^2 = 5^4$.
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Finding any triplet where C is an odd square will satisfy the equation because the square root of C taken to the 4th power does is.
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– poetasis
9 hours ago
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Your equation, $a^2 + b^2 = c^4$, is the same as $a^2 + b^2 = c^2$, except that $c$ has been replaced with $c^2$. Thus you can find solutions by choosing $m$ and $n$ so that
$$
begin{align}
a&=2mn \ b&=m^2-n^2 \ c^2&=m^2+n^2.
end{align}
$$
But how can you make sure that $c$ is an integer? Easy: that last equation, $c^2 = m^2 + n^2$ says that $m,n$ and $c$ also form a Pythagorean triple. Thus you can find solutions with two new parameters, $r$ and $s$ such that
$$
begin{align}
m&=2rs \ n&=r^2-s^2 \ c&=r^2+s^2.
end{align}
$$
Substituting these in the first set of equations to find $a$ and $b$, you have
$$
begin{align}
a&=4rs(r^2-s^2) \ b&=6r^2 s^2-r^4-s^4 \ c&=r^2 + s^2.
end{align}
$$
For example, choosing $r=2$ and $s=1$ gives you $a = 24$, $b=7$, $c=5$ and, indeed, $24^2 + 7^2 = 5^4$.
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Finding any triplet where C is an odd square will satisfy the equation because the square root of C taken to the 4th power does is.
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– poetasis
9 hours ago
add a comment |
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Your equation, $a^2 + b^2 = c^4$, is the same as $a^2 + b^2 = c^2$, except that $c$ has been replaced with $c^2$. Thus you can find solutions by choosing $m$ and $n$ so that
$$
begin{align}
a&=2mn \ b&=m^2-n^2 \ c^2&=m^2+n^2.
end{align}
$$
But how can you make sure that $c$ is an integer? Easy: that last equation, $c^2 = m^2 + n^2$ says that $m,n$ and $c$ also form a Pythagorean triple. Thus you can find solutions with two new parameters, $r$ and $s$ such that
$$
begin{align}
m&=2rs \ n&=r^2-s^2 \ c&=r^2+s^2.
end{align}
$$
Substituting these in the first set of equations to find $a$ and $b$, you have
$$
begin{align}
a&=4rs(r^2-s^2) \ b&=6r^2 s^2-r^4-s^4 \ c&=r^2 + s^2.
end{align}
$$
For example, choosing $r=2$ and $s=1$ gives you $a = 24$, $b=7$, $c=5$ and, indeed, $24^2 + 7^2 = 5^4$.
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Your equation, $a^2 + b^2 = c^4$, is the same as $a^2 + b^2 = c^2$, except that $c$ has been replaced with $c^2$. Thus you can find solutions by choosing $m$ and $n$ so that
$$
begin{align}
a&=2mn \ b&=m^2-n^2 \ c^2&=m^2+n^2.
end{align}
$$
But how can you make sure that $c$ is an integer? Easy: that last equation, $c^2 = m^2 + n^2$ says that $m,n$ and $c$ also form a Pythagorean triple. Thus you can find solutions with two new parameters, $r$ and $s$ such that
$$
begin{align}
m&=2rs \ n&=r^2-s^2 \ c&=r^2+s^2.
end{align}
$$
Substituting these in the first set of equations to find $a$ and $b$, you have
$$
begin{align}
a&=4rs(r^2-s^2) \ b&=6r^2 s^2-r^4-s^4 \ c&=r^2 + s^2.
end{align}
$$
For example, choosing $r=2$ and $s=1$ gives you $a = 24$, $b=7$, $c=5$ and, indeed, $24^2 + 7^2 = 5^4$.
answered Mar 17 at 17:15
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Finding any triplet where C is an odd square will satisfy the equation because the square root of C taken to the 4th power does is.
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– poetasis
9 hours ago
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Finding any triplet where C is an odd square will satisfy the equation because the square root of C taken to the 4th power does is.
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– poetasis
9 hours ago
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Finding any triplet where C is an odd square will satisfy the equation because the square root of C taken to the 4th power does is.
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– poetasis
9 hours ago
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Finding any triplet where C is an odd square will satisfy the equation because the square root of C taken to the 4th power does is.
$endgroup$
– poetasis
9 hours ago
add a comment |
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Whenever you have $a^2+b^2=c^2$ you also get $(ca)^2+(cb)^2=c^4$ -- does that count for you?
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+1, but are those all solutions?
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– tarit goswami
Mar 22 at 3:10
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Whenever you have $a^2+b^2=c^2$ you also get $(ca)^2+(cb)^2=c^4$ -- does that count for you?
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+1, but are those all solutions?
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– tarit goswami
Mar 22 at 3:10
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Whenever you have $a^2+b^2=c^2$ you also get $(ca)^2+(cb)^2=c^4$ -- does that count for you?
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Whenever you have $a^2+b^2=c^2$ you also get $(ca)^2+(cb)^2=c^4$ -- does that count for you?
answered Mar 17 at 16:51
Henning MakholmHenning Makholm
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+1, but are those all solutions?
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– tarit goswami
Mar 22 at 3:10
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+1, but are those all solutions?
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– tarit goswami
Mar 22 at 3:10
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+1, but are those all solutions?
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– tarit goswami
Mar 22 at 3:10
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+1, but are those all solutions?
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– tarit goswami
Mar 22 at 3:10
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You are looking for a Pythagorean triple where the hypotenuse is an odd square. You can find if such a triple exists if you try values of $n$ in the following formula where $C$ is the odd square: $$k=frac{-(2n-1)+sqrt{2C-(2n-1)^2}}{2}$$
from $1$ up to the point where $n^2+1>C$. If $k$ is an integer for any value(s) of $n$, then you can find A,B,C substituting $n$ and $k$ into the following functions:
$$A=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)k$$
$$B=2(2n-1)k+2 k^2$$
$$C=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)k+2k^2$$
If no integer $k$ is found for any value tested up to where $n^2+1>C$, then no triangle exists for that value of C. Remember that C must be an odd square for this to work because you are looking for one where $C^2=c^4$.
Some other triples that satisfy this equation are (41, 840, 29),
(239, 28560, 169),
(63, 216, 15),
(369, 7560, 87),
(175, 600, 25),
(1025, 21000, 145),
(161, 240, 17),
(343, 1176, 35),
(721, 5280, 73),
(959, 9360, 97),
(567, 1944, 45),
(1183, 4056, 65),
(1575, 5400, 75),
(527, 336, 25),
(1241, 2520, 53),
(2023, 6936, 85),
(3281, 18480, 137),
(2527, 8664, 95),
(1071, 1080, 39),
(1449, 2160, 51),
(3087, 10584, 105),
(1081, 840, 37),
(2047, 3696, 65),
(3703, 12696, 115),
(4375, 15000, 125),
(5103, 17496, 135),
(5887, 20184, 145),
(1519, 720, 41),
(4681, 10920, 109),
(6727, 23064, 155),
(7623, 26136, 165),
(2975, 3000, 65),
(4025, 6000, 85),
(8575, 29400, 175),
(9583, 32856, 185).
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add a comment |
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You are looking for a Pythagorean triple where the hypotenuse is an odd square. You can find if such a triple exists if you try values of $n$ in the following formula where $C$ is the odd square: $$k=frac{-(2n-1)+sqrt{2C-(2n-1)^2}}{2}$$
from $1$ up to the point where $n^2+1>C$. If $k$ is an integer for any value(s) of $n$, then you can find A,B,C substituting $n$ and $k$ into the following functions:
$$A=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)k$$
$$B=2(2n-1)k+2 k^2$$
$$C=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)k+2k^2$$
If no integer $k$ is found for any value tested up to where $n^2+1>C$, then no triangle exists for that value of C. Remember that C must be an odd square for this to work because you are looking for one where $C^2=c^4$.
Some other triples that satisfy this equation are (41, 840, 29),
(239, 28560, 169),
(63, 216, 15),
(369, 7560, 87),
(175, 600, 25),
(1025, 21000, 145),
(161, 240, 17),
(343, 1176, 35),
(721, 5280, 73),
(959, 9360, 97),
(567, 1944, 45),
(1183, 4056, 65),
(1575, 5400, 75),
(527, 336, 25),
(1241, 2520, 53),
(2023, 6936, 85),
(3281, 18480, 137),
(2527, 8664, 95),
(1071, 1080, 39),
(1449, 2160, 51),
(3087, 10584, 105),
(1081, 840, 37),
(2047, 3696, 65),
(3703, 12696, 115),
(4375, 15000, 125),
(5103, 17496, 135),
(5887, 20184, 145),
(1519, 720, 41),
(4681, 10920, 109),
(6727, 23064, 155),
(7623, 26136, 165),
(2975, 3000, 65),
(4025, 6000, 85),
(8575, 29400, 175),
(9583, 32856, 185).
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add a comment |
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You are looking for a Pythagorean triple where the hypotenuse is an odd square. You can find if such a triple exists if you try values of $n$ in the following formula where $C$ is the odd square: $$k=frac{-(2n-1)+sqrt{2C-(2n-1)^2}}{2}$$
from $1$ up to the point where $n^2+1>C$. If $k$ is an integer for any value(s) of $n$, then you can find A,B,C substituting $n$ and $k$ into the following functions:
$$A=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)k$$
$$B=2(2n-1)k+2 k^2$$
$$C=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)k+2k^2$$
If no integer $k$ is found for any value tested up to where $n^2+1>C$, then no triangle exists for that value of C. Remember that C must be an odd square for this to work because you are looking for one where $C^2=c^4$.
Some other triples that satisfy this equation are (41, 840, 29),
(239, 28560, 169),
(63, 216, 15),
(369, 7560, 87),
(175, 600, 25),
(1025, 21000, 145),
(161, 240, 17),
(343, 1176, 35),
(721, 5280, 73),
(959, 9360, 97),
(567, 1944, 45),
(1183, 4056, 65),
(1575, 5400, 75),
(527, 336, 25),
(1241, 2520, 53),
(2023, 6936, 85),
(3281, 18480, 137),
(2527, 8664, 95),
(1071, 1080, 39),
(1449, 2160, 51),
(3087, 10584, 105),
(1081, 840, 37),
(2047, 3696, 65),
(3703, 12696, 115),
(4375, 15000, 125),
(5103, 17496, 135),
(5887, 20184, 145),
(1519, 720, 41),
(4681, 10920, 109),
(6727, 23064, 155),
(7623, 26136, 165),
(2975, 3000, 65),
(4025, 6000, 85),
(8575, 29400, 175),
(9583, 32856, 185).
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You are looking for a Pythagorean triple where the hypotenuse is an odd square. You can find if such a triple exists if you try values of $n$ in the following formula where $C$ is the odd square: $$k=frac{-(2n-1)+sqrt{2C-(2n-1)^2}}{2}$$
from $1$ up to the point where $n^2+1>C$. If $k$ is an integer for any value(s) of $n$, then you can find A,B,C substituting $n$ and $k$ into the following functions:
$$A=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)k$$
$$B=2(2n-1)k+2 k^2$$
$$C=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)k+2k^2$$
If no integer $k$ is found for any value tested up to where $n^2+1>C$, then no triangle exists for that value of C. Remember that C must be an odd square for this to work because you are looking for one where $C^2=c^4$.
Some other triples that satisfy this equation are (41, 840, 29),
(239, 28560, 169),
(63, 216, 15),
(369, 7560, 87),
(175, 600, 25),
(1025, 21000, 145),
(161, 240, 17),
(343, 1176, 35),
(721, 5280, 73),
(959, 9360, 97),
(567, 1944, 45),
(1183, 4056, 65),
(1575, 5400, 75),
(527, 336, 25),
(1241, 2520, 53),
(2023, 6936, 85),
(3281, 18480, 137),
(2527, 8664, 95),
(1071, 1080, 39),
(1449, 2160, 51),
(3087, 10584, 105),
(1081, 840, 37),
(2047, 3696, 65),
(3703, 12696, 115),
(4375, 15000, 125),
(5103, 17496, 135),
(5887, 20184, 145),
(1519, 720, 41),
(4681, 10920, 109),
(6727, 23064, 155),
(7623, 26136, 165),
(2975, 3000, 65),
(4025, 6000, 85),
(8575, 29400, 175),
(9583, 32856, 185).
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