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Sufficiency of $|X|$ when $Xsim N(0,sigma^2)$ without using Factorization theorem



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Given, $Xsim N(0,sigma^2)$. By means of conditional approach show that $|X|$ is a sufficient estimator for $sigma^2$.




My Attempt:



This problem is very easy if we use Fisher–Neyman Factorisation theorem. But in this problem we have to use the basic definition of Sufficient Statistics, i.e,



A statistic $t = T(X)$ is sufficient for underlying parameter $theta$ precisely if the conditional probability distribution of the data $X$, given the statistic $t = T(X)$, does not depend on the parameter $θ$.



$Xsim N(0,sigma^2)$, here parameter, $theta=sigma^2$.
So we have to show that $P_{sigma^2}(Xle xmid T(X)le t)$ is independent of $sigma^2$.



For $xin (-t,t]$,



begin{align}
P_{sigma^2}(Xle x mid T(X)le t)&= frac{P_{sigma^2}(Xle x,T(X)le t)}{P_{sigma^2}(T(X)le t)}
\&=frac{P_{sigma^2}(Xle x,|X|le t)}{P_{sigma^2}(|X|le t)}
\&=frac{P_{sigma^2}(-tle Xle x)}{P_{sigma^2}(-tle Xle t)}
end{align}



But how to show that this expression is free of $sigma^2$?










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Question:




Given, $Xsim N(0,sigma^2)$. By means of conditional approach show that $|X|$ is a sufficient estimator for $sigma^2$.




My Attempt:



This problem is very easy if we use Fisher–Neyman Factorisation theorem. But in this problem we have to use the basic definition of Sufficient Statistics, i.e,



A statistic $t = T(X)$ is sufficient for underlying parameter $theta$ precisely if the conditional probability distribution of the data $X$, given the statistic $t = T(X)$, does not depend on the parameter $θ$.



$Xsim N(0,sigma^2)$, here parameter, $theta=sigma^2$.
So we have to show that $P_{sigma^2}(Xle xmid T(X)le t)$ is independent of $sigma^2$.



For $xin (-t,t]$,



begin{align}
P_{sigma^2}(Xle x mid T(X)le t)&= frac{P_{sigma^2}(Xle x,T(X)le t)}{P_{sigma^2}(T(X)le t)}
\&=frac{P_{sigma^2}(Xle x,|X|le t)}{P_{sigma^2}(|X|le t)}
\&=frac{P_{sigma^2}(-tle Xle x)}{P_{sigma^2}(-tle Xle t)}
end{align}



But how to show that this expression is free of $sigma^2$?










share|cite|improve this question











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$begingroup$


Question:




Given, $Xsim N(0,sigma^2)$. By means of conditional approach show that $|X|$ is a sufficient estimator for $sigma^2$.




My Attempt:



This problem is very easy if we use Fisher–Neyman Factorisation theorem. But in this problem we have to use the basic definition of Sufficient Statistics, i.e,



A statistic $t = T(X)$ is sufficient for underlying parameter $theta$ precisely if the conditional probability distribution of the data $X$, given the statistic $t = T(X)$, does not depend on the parameter $θ$.



$Xsim N(0,sigma^2)$, here parameter, $theta=sigma^2$.
So we have to show that $P_{sigma^2}(Xle xmid T(X)le t)$ is independent of $sigma^2$.



For $xin (-t,t]$,



begin{align}
P_{sigma^2}(Xle x mid T(X)le t)&= frac{P_{sigma^2}(Xle x,T(X)le t)}{P_{sigma^2}(T(X)le t)}
\&=frac{P_{sigma^2}(Xle x,|X|le t)}{P_{sigma^2}(|X|le t)}
\&=frac{P_{sigma^2}(-tle Xle x)}{P_{sigma^2}(-tle Xle t)}
end{align}



But how to show that this expression is free of $sigma^2$?










share|cite|improve this question











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Question:




Given, $Xsim N(0,sigma^2)$. By means of conditional approach show that $|X|$ is a sufficient estimator for $sigma^2$.




My Attempt:



This problem is very easy if we use Fisher–Neyman Factorisation theorem. But in this problem we have to use the basic definition of Sufficient Statistics, i.e,



A statistic $t = T(X)$ is sufficient for underlying parameter $theta$ precisely if the conditional probability distribution of the data $X$, given the statistic $t = T(X)$, does not depend on the parameter $θ$.



$Xsim N(0,sigma^2)$, here parameter, $theta=sigma^2$.
So we have to show that $P_{sigma^2}(Xle xmid T(X)le t)$ is independent of $sigma^2$.



For $xin (-t,t]$,



begin{align}
P_{sigma^2}(Xle x mid T(X)le t)&= frac{P_{sigma^2}(Xle x,T(X)le t)}{P_{sigma^2}(T(X)le t)}
\&=frac{P_{sigma^2}(Xle x,|X|le t)}{P_{sigma^2}(|X|le t)}
\&=frac{P_{sigma^2}(-tle Xle x)}{P_{sigma^2}(-tle Xle t)}
end{align}



But how to show that this expression is free of $sigma^2$?







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