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The Next CEO of Stack OverflowCompute $lim limits_xtoinfty (fracx-2x+2)^x$limits of the sequence $n/(n+1)$How to calculate $lim_xto1left(frac1+cos(pi x)tan^2(pi x)right)^!x^2$Calculate the limit of integralHow to evaluate $lim_xtoinftyarctan (4/x)/ |arcsin (-3/x)|$?Is there a way to get at this limit problem algebraically?Calculate $lim_x to infty(x+1)e^-2x$How to calculate $lim_nto infty fracn^nn!^2$?Calculate the limit: $lim limits_n rightarrow infty frac 4(n+3)!-n!n((n+2)!-(n-1)!)$How to solve the limit $limlimits_xto infty (x arctan x - fracxpi2)$










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I got stuck on two exercises below
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limlimits_xrightarrow +infty left(frac2pi arctan x right)^x \
lim_xrightarrow 3^+ fraccos x ln(x-3)ln(e^x-e^3)
$$




For the first one , let $y=(frac2pi arctan x )^x $, so $ln y =xln (frac2pi arctan x )$, the right part is $infty cdot 0$ type, but seemly, the L 'hopital's rule is useless. PS: I know the $infty cdot 0$ can be become to $fracinftyinfty$ or $frac00$. But when I use the L 'hopital's rule to the $fracinftyinfty$ or $frac00$ the calculation is complex and useless.



For the second one , it is $fracinftyinfty$ type, also useless the L 'hopital's rule is. How to calculate it ?










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    For $0timesinfty$ types, you can algebraically transform them into either $frac00$ or $fracinftyinfty$, where you can try using L'Hopital's (though it may not help): just remember that $ab = fraca frac1b $. And, L'Hopital's Rule is applicable for $fracinftyinfty$ indeterminates...
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I got stuck on two exercises below
$$
limlimits_xrightarrow +infty left(frac2pi arctan x right)^x \
lim_xrightarrow 3^+ fraccos x ln(x-3)ln(e^x-e^3)
$$




For the first one , let $y=(frac2pi arctan x )^x $, so $ln y =xln (frac2pi arctan x )$, the right part is $infty cdot 0$ type, but seemly, the L 'hopital's rule is useless. PS: I know the $infty cdot 0$ can be become to $fracinftyinfty$ or $frac00$. But when I use the L 'hopital's rule to the $fracinftyinfty$ or $frac00$ the calculation is complex and useless.



For the second one , it is $fracinftyinfty$ type, also useless the L 'hopital's rule is. How to calculate it ?










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    For $0timesinfty$ types, you can algebraically transform them into either $frac00$ or $fracinftyinfty$, where you can try using L'Hopital's (though it may not help): just remember that $ab = fraca frac1b $. And, L'Hopital's Rule is applicable for $fracinftyinfty$ indeterminates...
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I got stuck on two exercises below
$$
limlimits_xrightarrow +infty left(frac2pi arctan x right)^x \
lim_xrightarrow 3^+ fraccos x ln(x-3)ln(e^x-e^3)
$$




For the first one , let $y=(frac2pi arctan x )^x $, so $ln y =xln (frac2pi arctan x )$, the right part is $infty cdot 0$ type, but seemly, the L 'hopital's rule is useless. PS: I know the $infty cdot 0$ can be become to $fracinftyinfty$ or $frac00$. But when I use the L 'hopital's rule to the $fracinftyinfty$ or $frac00$ the calculation is complex and useless.



For the second one , it is $fracinftyinfty$ type, also useless the L 'hopital's rule is. How to calculate it ?










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I got stuck on two exercises below
$$
limlimits_xrightarrow +infty left(frac2pi arctan x right)^x \
lim_xrightarrow 3^+ fraccos x ln(x-3)ln(e^x-e^3)
$$




For the first one , let $y=(frac2pi arctan x )^x $, so $ln y =xln (frac2pi arctan x )$, the right part is $infty cdot 0$ type, but seemly, the L 'hopital's rule is useless. PS: I know the $infty cdot 0$ can be become to $fracinftyinfty$ or $frac00$. But when I use the L 'hopital's rule to the $fracinftyinfty$ or $frac00$ the calculation is complex and useless.



For the second one , it is $fracinftyinfty$ type, also useless the L 'hopital's rule is. How to calculate it ?







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    For $0timesinfty$ types, you can algebraically transform them into either $frac00$ or $fracinftyinfty$, where you can try using L'Hopital's (though it may not help): just remember that $ab = fraca frac1b $. And, L'Hopital's Rule is applicable for $fracinftyinfty$ indeterminates...
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    For $0timesinfty$ types, you can algebraically transform them into either $frac00$ or $fracinftyinfty$, where you can try using L'Hopital's (though it may not help): just remember that $ab = fraca frac1b $. And, L'Hopital's Rule is applicable for $fracinftyinfty$ indeterminates...
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For $0timesinfty$ types, you can algebraically transform them into either $frac00$ or $fracinftyinfty$, where you can try using L'Hopital's (though it may not help): just remember that $ab = fraca frac1b $. And, L'Hopital's Rule is applicable for $fracinftyinfty$ indeterminates...
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For $0timesinfty$ types, you can algebraically transform them into either $frac00$ or $fracinftyinfty$, where you can try using L'Hopital's (though it may not help): just remember that $ab = fraca frac1b $. And, L'Hopital's Rule is applicable for $fracinftyinfty$ indeterminates...
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Rewrite $inftycdot 0$ as $infty cdot dfrac1infty$. Now you can apply L'Hopital's rule: $$lim_xto +inftydfracleft(ln 2/picdotarctan x right)1/x=lim_xto +inftydfracpi/2cdot arctan x-1/x^2cdot dfrac11+x^2=-dfracpi 2lim_xto +inftyarctan xcdot dfracx^21+x^2$$






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    Without L'Hospital
    $$y=left(frac2pi arctan (x) right)^ximplies log(y)=x logleft(frac2pi arctan (x) right) $$



    Now, by Taylor for large values of $x$
    $$arctan (x)=fracpi 2-frac1x+frac13 x^3+Oleft(frac1x^4right)$$
    $$frac2pi arctan (x) =1-frac2pi x+frac23 pi x^3+Oleft(frac1x^4right)$$ Taylor again
    $$logleft(frac2pi arctan (x) right)= -frac2pi x-frac2pi ^2 x^2+Oleft(frac1x^3right)$$
    $$log(y)=xlogleft(frac2pi arctan (x) right)= -frac2pi -frac2pi ^2 x+Oleft(frac1x^2right)$$ Just continue with Taylor using $y=e^log(y)$ if you want to see not only the limit but also how it is approached






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      I believe you can apply L'hopital's rule for an indeterminate form like $fracinftyinfty$.






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        You can solve the first one using



        • $arctan x + operatornamearccotx = fracpi2$

        • $lim_yto 0(1-y)^1/y = e^-1$

        • $xoperatornamearccotx stackrelstackrelx =cot uuto 0^+= cot ucdot u = cos ucdot fracusin u stackrelu to 0^+longrightarrow 1$

        begineqnarray* left(frac2pi arctan x right)^x
        & stackrelarctan x = fracpi2-operatornamearccotx= & left( underbraceleft(1- frac2pioperatornamearccotxright)^fracpi2operatornamearccotx_stackrelx to +inftylongrightarrow e^-1 right)^frac2piunderbracexoperatornamearccotx_stackrelx to +inftylongrightarrow 1 \
        & stackrelx to +inftylongrightarrow & e^-frac2pi
        endeqnarray*



        The second limit is quite straight forward as $lim_xto 3+cos x = cos 3$. Just consider




        • $fracln(x-3)ln(e^x-e^3)$ and apply L'Hospital.





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          Rewrite $inftycdot 0$ as $infty cdot dfrac1infty$. Now you can apply L'Hopital's rule: $$lim_xto +inftydfracleft(ln 2/picdotarctan x right)1/x=lim_xto +inftydfracpi/2cdot arctan x-1/x^2cdot dfrac11+x^2=-dfracpi 2lim_xto +inftyarctan xcdot dfracx^21+x^2$$






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            Rewrite $inftycdot 0$ as $infty cdot dfrac1infty$. Now you can apply L'Hopital's rule: $$lim_xto +inftydfracleft(ln 2/picdotarctan x right)1/x=lim_xto +inftydfracpi/2cdot arctan x-1/x^2cdot dfrac11+x^2=-dfracpi 2lim_xto +inftyarctan xcdot dfracx^21+x^2$$






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              Rewrite $inftycdot 0$ as $infty cdot dfrac1infty$. Now you can apply L'Hopital's rule: $$lim_xto +inftydfracleft(ln 2/picdotarctan x right)1/x=lim_xto +inftydfracpi/2cdot arctan x-1/x^2cdot dfrac11+x^2=-dfracpi 2lim_xto +inftyarctan xcdot dfracx^21+x^2$$






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              Rewrite $inftycdot 0$ as $infty cdot dfrac1infty$. Now you can apply L'Hopital's rule: $$lim_xto +inftydfracleft(ln 2/picdotarctan x right)1/x=lim_xto +inftydfracpi/2cdot arctan x-1/x^2cdot dfrac11+x^2=-dfracpi 2lim_xto +inftyarctan xcdot dfracx^21+x^2$$







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                  Without L'Hospital
                  $$y=left(frac2pi arctan (x) right)^ximplies log(y)=x logleft(frac2pi arctan (x) right) $$



                  Now, by Taylor for large values of $x$
                  $$arctan (x)=fracpi 2-frac1x+frac13 x^3+Oleft(frac1x^4right)$$
                  $$frac2pi arctan (x) =1-frac2pi x+frac23 pi x^3+Oleft(frac1x^4right)$$ Taylor again
                  $$logleft(frac2pi arctan (x) right)= -frac2pi x-frac2pi ^2 x^2+Oleft(frac1x^3right)$$
                  $$log(y)=xlogleft(frac2pi arctan (x) right)= -frac2pi -frac2pi ^2 x+Oleft(frac1x^2right)$$ Just continue with Taylor using $y=e^log(y)$ if you want to see not only the limit but also how it is approached






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                    Without L'Hospital
                    $$y=left(frac2pi arctan (x) right)^ximplies log(y)=x logleft(frac2pi arctan (x) right) $$



                    Now, by Taylor for large values of $x$
                    $$arctan (x)=fracpi 2-frac1x+frac13 x^3+Oleft(frac1x^4right)$$
                    $$frac2pi arctan (x) =1-frac2pi x+frac23 pi x^3+Oleft(frac1x^4right)$$ Taylor again
                    $$logleft(frac2pi arctan (x) right)= -frac2pi x-frac2pi ^2 x^2+Oleft(frac1x^3right)$$
                    $$log(y)=xlogleft(frac2pi arctan (x) right)= -frac2pi -frac2pi ^2 x+Oleft(frac1x^2right)$$ Just continue with Taylor using $y=e^log(y)$ if you want to see not only the limit but also how it is approached






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                      Without L'Hospital
                      $$y=left(frac2pi arctan (x) right)^ximplies log(y)=x logleft(frac2pi arctan (x) right) $$



                      Now, by Taylor for large values of $x$
                      $$arctan (x)=fracpi 2-frac1x+frac13 x^3+Oleft(frac1x^4right)$$
                      $$frac2pi arctan (x) =1-frac2pi x+frac23 pi x^3+Oleft(frac1x^4right)$$ Taylor again
                      $$logleft(frac2pi arctan (x) right)= -frac2pi x-frac2pi ^2 x^2+Oleft(frac1x^3right)$$
                      $$log(y)=xlogleft(frac2pi arctan (x) right)= -frac2pi -frac2pi ^2 x+Oleft(frac1x^2right)$$ Just continue with Taylor using $y=e^log(y)$ if you want to see not only the limit but also how it is approached






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                      Without L'Hospital
                      $$y=left(frac2pi arctan (x) right)^ximplies log(y)=x logleft(frac2pi arctan (x) right) $$



                      Now, by Taylor for large values of $x$
                      $$arctan (x)=fracpi 2-frac1x+frac13 x^3+Oleft(frac1x^4right)$$
                      $$frac2pi arctan (x) =1-frac2pi x+frac23 pi x^3+Oleft(frac1x^4right)$$ Taylor again
                      $$logleft(frac2pi arctan (x) right)= -frac2pi x-frac2pi ^2 x^2+Oleft(frac1x^3right)$$
                      $$log(y)=xlogleft(frac2pi arctan (x) right)= -frac2pi -frac2pi ^2 x+Oleft(frac1x^2right)$$ Just continue with Taylor using $y=e^log(y)$ if you want to see not only the limit but also how it is approached







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                          I believe you can apply L'hopital's rule for an indeterminate form like $fracinftyinfty$.






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                                  You can solve the first one using



                                  • $arctan x + operatornamearccotx = fracpi2$

                                  • $lim_yto 0(1-y)^1/y = e^-1$

                                  • $xoperatornamearccotx stackrelstackrelx =cot uuto 0^+= cot ucdot u = cos ucdot fracusin u stackrelu to 0^+longrightarrow 1$

                                  begineqnarray* left(frac2pi arctan x right)^x
                                  & stackrelarctan x = fracpi2-operatornamearccotx= & left( underbraceleft(1- frac2pioperatornamearccotxright)^fracpi2operatornamearccotx_stackrelx to +inftylongrightarrow e^-1 right)^frac2piunderbracexoperatornamearccotx_stackrelx to +inftylongrightarrow 1 \
                                  & stackrelx to +inftylongrightarrow & e^-frac2pi
                                  endeqnarray*



                                  The second limit is quite straight forward as $lim_xto 3+cos x = cos 3$. Just consider




                                  • $fracln(x-3)ln(e^x-e^3)$ and apply L'Hospital.





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                                    You can solve the first one using



                                    • $arctan x + operatornamearccotx = fracpi2$

                                    • $lim_yto 0(1-y)^1/y = e^-1$

                                    • $xoperatornamearccotx stackrelstackrelx =cot uuto 0^+= cot ucdot u = cos ucdot fracusin u stackrelu to 0^+longrightarrow 1$

                                    begineqnarray* left(frac2pi arctan x right)^x
                                    & stackrelarctan x = fracpi2-operatornamearccotx= & left( underbraceleft(1- frac2pioperatornamearccotxright)^fracpi2operatornamearccotx_stackrelx to +inftylongrightarrow e^-1 right)^frac2piunderbracexoperatornamearccotx_stackrelx to +inftylongrightarrow 1 \
                                    & stackrelx to +inftylongrightarrow & e^-frac2pi
                                    endeqnarray*



                                    The second limit is quite straight forward as $lim_xto 3+cos x = cos 3$. Just consider




                                    • $fracln(x-3)ln(e^x-e^3)$ and apply L'Hospital.





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                                      You can solve the first one using



                                      • $arctan x + operatornamearccotx = fracpi2$

                                      • $lim_yto 0(1-y)^1/y = e^-1$

                                      • $xoperatornamearccotx stackrelstackrelx =cot uuto 0^+= cot ucdot u = cos ucdot fracusin u stackrelu to 0^+longrightarrow 1$

                                      begineqnarray* left(frac2pi arctan x right)^x
                                      & stackrelarctan x = fracpi2-operatornamearccotx= & left( underbraceleft(1- frac2pioperatornamearccotxright)^fracpi2operatornamearccotx_stackrelx to +inftylongrightarrow e^-1 right)^frac2piunderbracexoperatornamearccotx_stackrelx to +inftylongrightarrow 1 \
                                      & stackrelx to +inftylongrightarrow & e^-frac2pi
                                      endeqnarray*



                                      The second limit is quite straight forward as $lim_xto 3+cos x = cos 3$. Just consider




                                      • $fracln(x-3)ln(e^x-e^3)$ and apply L'Hospital.





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                                      You can solve the first one using



                                      • $arctan x + operatornamearccotx = fracpi2$

                                      • $lim_yto 0(1-y)^1/y = e^-1$

                                      • $xoperatornamearccotx stackrelstackrelx =cot uuto 0^+= cot ucdot u = cos ucdot fracusin u stackrelu to 0^+longrightarrow 1$

                                      begineqnarray* left(frac2pi arctan x right)^x
                                      & stackrelarctan x = fracpi2-operatornamearccotx= & left( underbraceleft(1- frac2pioperatornamearccotxright)^fracpi2operatornamearccotx_stackrelx to +inftylongrightarrow e^-1 right)^frac2piunderbracexoperatornamearccotx_stackrelx to +inftylongrightarrow 1 \
                                      & stackrelx to +inftylongrightarrow & e^-frac2pi
                                      endeqnarray*



                                      The second limit is quite straight forward as $lim_xto 3+cos x = cos 3$. Just consider




                                      • $fracln(x-3)ln(e^x-e^3)$ and apply L'Hospital.






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