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Isometric Drawing Tool: Converting 2D information to 3D



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I was drawing with the NCTM Isometric Drawing Tool, and produced the image seen here. I also noticed that it is possible to view the isometric drawing in 2D, and was wondering if/how it is possible to generate the 3D-coordinates of the blocks by using the information given in 2D.










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      I was drawing with the NCTM Isometric Drawing Tool, and produced the image seen here. I also noticed that it is possible to view the isometric drawing in 2D, and was wondering if/how it is possible to generate the 3D-coordinates of the blocks by using the information given in 2D.










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      I was drawing with the NCTM Isometric Drawing Tool, and produced the image seen here. I also noticed that it is possible to view the isometric drawing in 2D, and was wondering if/how it is possible to generate the 3D-coordinates of the blocks by using the information given in 2D.







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          Isometric projection, in this case, is the orthogonal projection on plane with equation $x+y+z=0$ (or any affine plane with equation $x+y+z=d$). Thus



          A first answer is 'no' because depth information (depth in the direction of view, i.e., in the $(1,1,1)$ direction) is lost ; in the example you give, one could interpret the upper corner of the highest cube as having coordinates $(0,-1,5)$ but they could as well be



          $$(0,-1,5)+t(1,1,1)=(t,t-1,t+5)$$



          for any real number $t$...



          A second answer is 'yes' as long as we have the absolute coordinates $(a,b,c)$ of a certain reference point $R$. Indeed in this case, one can retrieve the absolute coordinates of any point $S$ by first creating a path from (the projection) of $R$ to (the projection of) $S$ and then, while following the path, add $(pm 1,0,0), (0,pm 1,0), (0,0,pm 1) $ to the current coordinates as we are moving South-East, North-West, South-West, North-East, South or North direction resp.



          Remarks :



          1) all paths from $R$ to $S$ give the same final coordinates to $S$.



          2) thinking to reference (affine) plane with equation $x+y+z=1$, one could work with barycentric coordinates. I can even imagine that this "Isometric Drawing Tool" has been programmed using sort of coordinates. I will try to re-create it in this way in the coming times...






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            $begingroup$

            Isometric projection, in this case, is the orthogonal projection on plane with equation $x+y+z=0$ (or any affine plane with equation $x+y+z=d$). Thus



            A first answer is 'no' because depth information (depth in the direction of view, i.e., in the $(1,1,1)$ direction) is lost ; in the example you give, one could interpret the upper corner of the highest cube as having coordinates $(0,-1,5)$ but they could as well be



            $$(0,-1,5)+t(1,1,1)=(t,t-1,t+5)$$



            for any real number $t$...



            A second answer is 'yes' as long as we have the absolute coordinates $(a,b,c)$ of a certain reference point $R$. Indeed in this case, one can retrieve the absolute coordinates of any point $S$ by first creating a path from (the projection) of $R$ to (the projection of) $S$ and then, while following the path, add $(pm 1,0,0), (0,pm 1,0), (0,0,pm 1) $ to the current coordinates as we are moving South-East, North-West, South-West, North-East, South or North direction resp.



            Remarks :



            1) all paths from $R$ to $S$ give the same final coordinates to $S$.



            2) thinking to reference (affine) plane with equation $x+y+z=1$, one could work with barycentric coordinates. I can even imagine that this "Isometric Drawing Tool" has been programmed using sort of coordinates. I will try to re-create it in this way in the coming times...






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              $begingroup$

              Isometric projection, in this case, is the orthogonal projection on plane with equation $x+y+z=0$ (or any affine plane with equation $x+y+z=d$). Thus



              A first answer is 'no' because depth information (depth in the direction of view, i.e., in the $(1,1,1)$ direction) is lost ; in the example you give, one could interpret the upper corner of the highest cube as having coordinates $(0,-1,5)$ but they could as well be



              $$(0,-1,5)+t(1,1,1)=(t,t-1,t+5)$$



              for any real number $t$...



              A second answer is 'yes' as long as we have the absolute coordinates $(a,b,c)$ of a certain reference point $R$. Indeed in this case, one can retrieve the absolute coordinates of any point $S$ by first creating a path from (the projection) of $R$ to (the projection of) $S$ and then, while following the path, add $(pm 1,0,0), (0,pm 1,0), (0,0,pm 1) $ to the current coordinates as we are moving South-East, North-West, South-West, North-East, South or North direction resp.



              Remarks :



              1) all paths from $R$ to $S$ give the same final coordinates to $S$.



              2) thinking to reference (affine) plane with equation $x+y+z=1$, one could work with barycentric coordinates. I can even imagine that this "Isometric Drawing Tool" has been programmed using sort of coordinates. I will try to re-create it in this way in the coming times...






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                $begingroup$

                Isometric projection, in this case, is the orthogonal projection on plane with equation $x+y+z=0$ (or any affine plane with equation $x+y+z=d$). Thus



                A first answer is 'no' because depth information (depth in the direction of view, i.e., in the $(1,1,1)$ direction) is lost ; in the example you give, one could interpret the upper corner of the highest cube as having coordinates $(0,-1,5)$ but they could as well be



                $$(0,-1,5)+t(1,1,1)=(t,t-1,t+5)$$



                for any real number $t$...



                A second answer is 'yes' as long as we have the absolute coordinates $(a,b,c)$ of a certain reference point $R$. Indeed in this case, one can retrieve the absolute coordinates of any point $S$ by first creating a path from (the projection) of $R$ to (the projection of) $S$ and then, while following the path, add $(pm 1,0,0), (0,pm 1,0), (0,0,pm 1) $ to the current coordinates as we are moving South-East, North-West, South-West, North-East, South or North direction resp.



                Remarks :



                1) all paths from $R$ to $S$ give the same final coordinates to $S$.



                2) thinking to reference (affine) plane with equation $x+y+z=1$, one could work with barycentric coordinates. I can even imagine that this "Isometric Drawing Tool" has been programmed using sort of coordinates. I will try to re-create it in this way in the coming times...






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                Isometric projection, in this case, is the orthogonal projection on plane with equation $x+y+z=0$ (or any affine plane with equation $x+y+z=d$). Thus



                A first answer is 'no' because depth information (depth in the direction of view, i.e., in the $(1,1,1)$ direction) is lost ; in the example you give, one could interpret the upper corner of the highest cube as having coordinates $(0,-1,5)$ but they could as well be



                $$(0,-1,5)+t(1,1,1)=(t,t-1,t+5)$$



                for any real number $t$...



                A second answer is 'yes' as long as we have the absolute coordinates $(a,b,c)$ of a certain reference point $R$. Indeed in this case, one can retrieve the absolute coordinates of any point $S$ by first creating a path from (the projection) of $R$ to (the projection of) $S$ and then, while following the path, add $(pm 1,0,0), (0,pm 1,0), (0,0,pm 1) $ to the current coordinates as we are moving South-East, North-West, South-West, North-East, South or North direction resp.



                Remarks :



                1) all paths from $R$ to $S$ give the same final coordinates to $S$.



                2) thinking to reference (affine) plane with equation $x+y+z=1$, one could work with barycentric coordinates. I can even imagine that this "Isometric Drawing Tool" has been programmed using sort of coordinates. I will try to re-create it in this way in the coming times...







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