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Differentiability of function of two variables at $(1,0)$
Differentiablility of a function of two variablesdifferentiation-chain rule- function of two variablesContinuity and differentiability of the function $x|x|$Is $f(x,y)=frac{y^3-sin^3x}{x^2+y^2}$ differentiable at $(0,0)$?Differentiability of function definitionDifferentiability of piecewise functionsDifferentiability of a function $mathbb{R}^2tomathbb{R}$ at $(0,0)$Differentiability of logistic functionContinuity and differentiability of $f(x,y)$ at $(0,0)$Differentiability of $f$ at the origin
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Define $F:mathbb{R}^2tomathbb{R}$ by $F(x,y)=y^2+sqrt{y^2x^4}+x$.
Determine if F is differentiable at (1,0) or not.
To solve this problem, I have tried to applied $lim_{x to a} frac{||F(x)-F(a)-T(x-a)||}{||x-a||}$ to figure out whether the limit is equal to zero or not.
Then I got $lim_{(x,y) to (1,0)}frac{y^2+yx^2-y}{sqrt{(x-1)^2+y^2}}$ , the problem is I do not know how to solve such a limit or I used a wrong method to determine the differentiability.
In the other sub-part of the question, I have already solved the function is differentiable at (1,1) and (0,0).
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Define $F:mathbb{R}^2tomathbb{R}$ by $F(x,y)=y^2+sqrt{y^2x^4}+x$.
Determine if F is differentiable at (1,0) or not.
To solve this problem, I have tried to applied $lim_{x to a} frac{||F(x)-F(a)-T(x-a)||}{||x-a||}$ to figure out whether the limit is equal to zero or not.
Then I got $lim_{(x,y) to (1,0)}frac{y^2+yx^2-y}{sqrt{(x-1)^2+y^2}}$ , the problem is I do not know how to solve such a limit or I used a wrong method to determine the differentiability.
In the other sub-part of the question, I have already solved the function is differentiable at (1,1) and (0,0).
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$F$ is not a vector valued function. What is $T$?
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2 days ago
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I thought the existence of partial derivatives at a point were a necessary condition for differentiability at that point. At $(0,0)$ they don't exist do they? so how did you prove it is differentiable at $(0,0)$? They don't seem to exist at $(1,0)$ either. Don't take my word, I'm also a student so hopefully someone will answer this soon (and as mentioned above, F is not a vector valued function since it takes values in reals - it is real valued.)
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@Displayname The partials do exist at $(0,0).$
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@zhw im a bit confused now...so what would the partial of $F$ w.r.t y be at (0,0)?
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@Displayname $F(0,y)=y^2,$ so the partial of $F$ wrt $y$ is $0$ at the origin.
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Define $F:mathbb{R}^2tomathbb{R}$ by $F(x,y)=y^2+sqrt{y^2x^4}+x$.
Determine if F is differentiable at (1,0) or not.
To solve this problem, I have tried to applied $lim_{x to a} frac{||F(x)-F(a)-T(x-a)||}{||x-a||}$ to figure out whether the limit is equal to zero or not.
Then I got $lim_{(x,y) to (1,0)}frac{y^2+yx^2-y}{sqrt{(x-1)^2+y^2}}$ , the problem is I do not know how to solve such a limit or I used a wrong method to determine the differentiability.
In the other sub-part of the question, I have already solved the function is differentiable at (1,1) and (0,0).
real-analysis
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Define $F:mathbb{R}^2tomathbb{R}$ by $F(x,y)=y^2+sqrt{y^2x^4}+x$.
Determine if F is differentiable at (1,0) or not.
To solve this problem, I have tried to applied $lim_{x to a} frac{||F(x)-F(a)-T(x-a)||}{||x-a||}$ to figure out whether the limit is equal to zero or not.
Then I got $lim_{(x,y) to (1,0)}frac{y^2+yx^2-y}{sqrt{(x-1)^2+y^2}}$ , the problem is I do not know how to solve such a limit or I used a wrong method to determine the differentiability.
In the other sub-part of the question, I have already solved the function is differentiable at (1,1) and (0,0).
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$F$ is not a vector valued function. What is $T$?
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I thought the existence of partial derivatives at a point were a necessary condition for differentiability at that point. At $(0,0)$ they don't exist do they? so how did you prove it is differentiable at $(0,0)$? They don't seem to exist at $(1,0)$ either. Don't take my word, I'm also a student so hopefully someone will answer this soon (and as mentioned above, F is not a vector valued function since it takes values in reals - it is real valued.)
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@Displayname The partials do exist at $(0,0).$
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@zhw im a bit confused now...so what would the partial of $F$ w.r.t y be at (0,0)?
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@Displayname $F(0,y)=y^2,$ so the partial of $F$ wrt $y$ is $0$ at the origin.
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$F$ is not a vector valued function. What is $T$?
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– uniquesolution
2 days ago
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I thought the existence of partial derivatives at a point were a necessary condition for differentiability at that point. At $(0,0)$ they don't exist do they? so how did you prove it is differentiable at $(0,0)$? They don't seem to exist at $(1,0)$ either. Don't take my word, I'm also a student so hopefully someone will answer this soon (and as mentioned above, F is not a vector valued function since it takes values in reals - it is real valued.)
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– Displayname
2 days ago
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@Displayname The partials do exist at $(0,0).$
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– zhw.
2 days ago
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@zhw im a bit confused now...so what would the partial of $F$ w.r.t y be at (0,0)?
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– Displayname
2 days ago
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@Displayname $F(0,y)=y^2,$ so the partial of $F$ wrt $y$ is $0$ at the origin.
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– zhw.
yesterday
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$F$ is not a vector valued function. What is $T$?
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– uniquesolution
2 days ago
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$F$ is not a vector valued function. What is $T$?
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– uniquesolution
2 days ago
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I thought the existence of partial derivatives at a point were a necessary condition for differentiability at that point. At $(0,0)$ they don't exist do they? so how did you prove it is differentiable at $(0,0)$? They don't seem to exist at $(1,0)$ either. Don't take my word, I'm also a student so hopefully someone will answer this soon (and as mentioned above, F is not a vector valued function since it takes values in reals - it is real valued.)
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2 days ago
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I thought the existence of partial derivatives at a point were a necessary condition for differentiability at that point. At $(0,0)$ they don't exist do they? so how did you prove it is differentiable at $(0,0)$? They don't seem to exist at $(1,0)$ either. Don't take my word, I'm also a student so hopefully someone will answer this soon (and as mentioned above, F is not a vector valued function since it takes values in reals - it is real valued.)
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– Displayname
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@Displayname The partials do exist at $(0,0).$
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– zhw.
2 days ago
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@Displayname The partials do exist at $(0,0).$
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– zhw.
2 days ago
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@zhw im a bit confused now...so what would the partial of $F$ w.r.t y be at (0,0)?
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– Displayname
2 days ago
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@zhw im a bit confused now...so what would the partial of $F$ w.r.t y be at (0,0)?
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– Displayname
2 days ago
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@Displayname $F(0,y)=y^2,$ so the partial of $F$ wrt $y$ is $0$ at the origin.
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yesterday
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@Displayname $F(0,y)=y^2,$ so the partial of $F$ wrt $y$ is $0$ at the origin.
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Hint: $F(x,y)=y^2+ |y|x^2 +x.$ Does $partial F/partial y (1,0)$ exist?
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I see, as one of the partial derivative does not exist at (1,0), therefore F is not differentiable at (1,0). Thanks a lot for your help.
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Hint: $F(x,y)=y^2+ |y|x^2 +x.$ Does $partial F/partial y (1,0)$ exist?
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I see, as one of the partial derivative does not exist at (1,0), therefore F is not differentiable at (1,0). Thanks a lot for your help.
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Hint: $F(x,y)=y^2+ |y|x^2 +x.$ Does $partial F/partial y (1,0)$ exist?
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I see, as one of the partial derivative does not exist at (1,0), therefore F is not differentiable at (1,0). Thanks a lot for your help.
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Hint: $F(x,y)=y^2+ |y|x^2 +x.$ Does $partial F/partial y (1,0)$ exist?
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Hint: $F(x,y)=y^2+ |y|x^2 +x.$ Does $partial F/partial y (1,0)$ exist?
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I see, as one of the partial derivative does not exist at (1,0), therefore F is not differentiable at (1,0). Thanks a lot for your help.
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I see, as one of the partial derivative does not exist at (1,0), therefore F is not differentiable at (1,0). Thanks a lot for your help.
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I see, as one of the partial derivative does not exist at (1,0), therefore F is not differentiable at (1,0). Thanks a lot for your help.
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I see, as one of the partial derivative does not exist at (1,0), therefore F is not differentiable at (1,0). Thanks a lot for your help.
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I thought the existence of partial derivatives at a point were a necessary condition for differentiability at that point. At $(0,0)$ they don't exist do they? so how did you prove it is differentiable at $(0,0)$? They don't seem to exist at $(1,0)$ either. Don't take my word, I'm also a student so hopefully someone will answer this soon (and as mentioned above, F is not a vector valued function since it takes values in reals - it is real valued.)
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@Displayname The partials do exist at $(0,0).$
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@zhw im a bit confused now...so what would the partial of $F$ w.r.t y be at (0,0)?
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2 days ago
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@Displayname $F(0,y)=y^2,$ so the partial of $F$ wrt $y$ is $0$ at the origin.
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yesterday