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Let be $H$ a subgroup. Show $Ha=H$ if and only if $a$ belongs to $H$.




Here what I have understand of the proof: $a$ must belong to $Ha$ because $ea=a$ where $e$ is the identity in $H$. So the only way $H=Ha$ is that a belongs to $H$.



Is that correct?
Now suppose that a belongs to H. for every element h in H, $h=(ha^{-1})a$. This implies that h belongs to Ha so also a belongs to Ha. This implies H=Ha.










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Let be $H$ a subgroup. Show $Ha=H$ if and only if $a$ belongs to $H$.




Here what I have understand of the proof: $a$ must belong to $Ha$ because $ea=a$ where $e$ is the identity in $H$. So the only way $H=Ha$ is that a belongs to $H$.



Is that correct?
Now suppose that a belongs to H. for every element h in H, $h=(ha^{-1})a$. This implies that h belongs to Ha so also a belongs to Ha. This implies H=Ha.










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Let be $H$ a subgroup. Show $Ha=H$ if and only if $a$ belongs to $H$.




Here what I have understand of the proof: $a$ must belong to $Ha$ because $ea=a$ where $e$ is the identity in $H$. So the only way $H=Ha$ is that a belongs to $H$.



Is that correct?
Now suppose that a belongs to H. for every element h in H, $h=(ha^{-1})a$. This implies that h belongs to Ha so also a belongs to Ha. This implies H=Ha.










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Let be $H$ a subgroup. Show $Ha=H$ if and only if $a$ belongs to $H$.




Here what I have understand of the proof: $a$ must belong to $Ha$ because $ea=a$ where $e$ is the identity in $H$. So the only way $H=Ha$ is that a belongs to $H$.



Is that correct?
Now suppose that a belongs to H. for every element h in H, $h=(ha^{-1})a$. This implies that h belongs to Ha so also a belongs to Ha. This implies H=Ha.







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If $ain H$, then every element of $H$ can be written in the form $(ha^{-1})ain Ha$ and due to closure, $Ha=H$. Contrarily, if $Ha=H$ then $a=eain Ha=H$.






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    $ha^{-1}$ always belongs to H because by definition of group, the composition of two elements of a group h and a belongs always to the same group H right?
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    Correct, in general for a group $(G,circ)$ and elements $x,yin G$, $xcirc yin G$ to satisfy the closure axiom. Furthermore, $x^{-1}$ exists to satisfy the inverse axiom.
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Let $ain G$. Then



begin{align}
Ha=H &iff Ha=He \
&iff ae^{-1}in H \
&iff ain H.
end{align}



This is due to the more general theorem that $Hx=Hy$ if and only if $xy^{-1}in H$.






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    If $ain H$, then every element of $H$ can be written in the form $(ha^{-1})ain Ha$ and due to closure, $Ha=H$. Contrarily, if $Ha=H$ then $a=eain Ha=H$.






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      $ha^{-1}$ always belongs to H because by definition of group, the composition of two elements of a group h and a belongs always to the same group H right?
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      Correct, in general for a group $(G,circ)$ and elements $x,yin G$, $xcirc yin G$ to satisfy the closure axiom. Furthermore, $x^{-1}$ exists to satisfy the inverse axiom.
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    $begingroup$

    If $ain H$, then every element of $H$ can be written in the form $(ha^{-1})ain Ha$ and due to closure, $Ha=H$. Contrarily, if $Ha=H$ then $a=eain Ha=H$.






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      $ha^{-1}$ always belongs to H because by definition of group, the composition of two elements of a group h and a belongs always to the same group H right?
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    • $begingroup$
      Correct, in general for a group $(G,circ)$ and elements $x,yin G$, $xcirc yin G$ to satisfy the closure axiom. Furthermore, $x^{-1}$ exists to satisfy the inverse axiom.
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    If $ain H$, then every element of $H$ can be written in the form $(ha^{-1})ain Ha$ and due to closure, $Ha=H$. Contrarily, if $Ha=H$ then $a=eain Ha=H$.






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    If $ain H$, then every element of $H$ can be written in the form $(ha^{-1})ain Ha$ and due to closure, $Ha=H$. Contrarily, if $Ha=H$ then $a=eain Ha=H$.







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    • $begingroup$
      $ha^{-1}$ always belongs to H because by definition of group, the composition of two elements of a group h and a belongs always to the same group H right?
      $endgroup$
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      Mar 16 at 8:46












    • $begingroup$
      Correct, in general for a group $(G,circ)$ and elements $x,yin G$, $xcirc yin G$ to satisfy the closure axiom. Furthermore, $x^{-1}$ exists to satisfy the inverse axiom.
      $endgroup$
      – TheSimpliFire
      Mar 16 at 8:48












    • $begingroup$
      ok thanks very much
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    • $begingroup$
      $ha^{-1}$ always belongs to H because by definition of group, the composition of two elements of a group h and a belongs always to the same group H right?
      $endgroup$
      – homunculus
      Mar 16 at 8:46












    • $begingroup$
      Correct, in general for a group $(G,circ)$ and elements $x,yin G$, $xcirc yin G$ to satisfy the closure axiom. Furthermore, $x^{-1}$ exists to satisfy the inverse axiom.
      $endgroup$
      – TheSimpliFire
      Mar 16 at 8:48












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      ok thanks very much
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      Mar 16 at 8:50
















    $begingroup$
    $ha^{-1}$ always belongs to H because by definition of group, the composition of two elements of a group h and a belongs always to the same group H right?
    $endgroup$
    – homunculus
    Mar 16 at 8:46






    $begingroup$
    $ha^{-1}$ always belongs to H because by definition of group, the composition of two elements of a group h and a belongs always to the same group H right?
    $endgroup$
    – homunculus
    Mar 16 at 8:46














    $begingroup$
    Correct, in general for a group $(G,circ)$ and elements $x,yin G$, $xcirc yin G$ to satisfy the closure axiom. Furthermore, $x^{-1}$ exists to satisfy the inverse axiom.
    $endgroup$
    – TheSimpliFire
    Mar 16 at 8:48






    $begingroup$
    Correct, in general for a group $(G,circ)$ and elements $x,yin G$, $xcirc yin G$ to satisfy the closure axiom. Furthermore, $x^{-1}$ exists to satisfy the inverse axiom.
    $endgroup$
    – TheSimpliFire
    Mar 16 at 8:48














    $begingroup$
    ok thanks very much
    $endgroup$
    – homunculus
    Mar 16 at 8:50




    $begingroup$
    ok thanks very much
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    – homunculus
    Mar 16 at 8:50











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    Let $ain G$. Then



    begin{align}
    Ha=H &iff Ha=He \
    &iff ae^{-1}in H \
    &iff ain H.
    end{align}



    This is due to the more general theorem that $Hx=Hy$ if and only if $xy^{-1}in H$.






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      Let $ain G$. Then



      begin{align}
      Ha=H &iff Ha=He \
      &iff ae^{-1}in H \
      &iff ain H.
      end{align}



      This is due to the more general theorem that $Hx=Hy$ if and only if $xy^{-1}in H$.






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        Let $ain G$. Then



        begin{align}
        Ha=H &iff Ha=He \
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        &iff ain H.
        end{align}



        This is due to the more general theorem that $Hx=Hy$ if and only if $xy^{-1}in H$.






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        Let $ain G$. Then



        begin{align}
        Ha=H &iff Ha=He \
        &iff ae^{-1}in H \
        &iff ain H.
        end{align}



        This is due to the more general theorem that $Hx=Hy$ if and only if $xy^{-1}in H$.







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