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$vdashphi land diamondpsi to diamond(psilanddiamondphi)$ in KB


Showing $vdash phito square diamond phi$A Natural-Deduction proof of $ { neg N,neg N to L,D leftrightarrow neg N } vdash (L lor A) land D $.Natural deduction proof of $p rightarrow q vdash lnot(p land lnot q)$Proving $ lnot (A Rightarrow B) vDash A land lnot B $A real-world interpretation for ${neg(phileftrightarrowpsi)}vdash((negphi)leftrightarrowpsi)$How to prove $lnot(pto q)vdash p landlnot q$If $Sigma Cup ${$phi$}$ vdash theta$ and $Sigma Cup ${$lnotphi$}$ vdash theta$ then $Sigma vdash theta.$Assuming $Sigma vdash eta$, what is the deduction for $Sigma vdash negeta rightarrow eta$?Axiomatic proof of $vdash p rightarrow ((prightarrow q) rightarrow q)$Formal Deduction (logic) Question: $lnot C, (B to lnot C) to A vdash (A to C) to F$Prove $vdash neg(square Fland p)$ in $KD$













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I've been trying to prove $vdashphi land diamondpsi to diamond(psilanddiamond phi)$ in natural deduction where it's allowed to use $phito square diamond phi$ and/or $diamondsquarephitophi$ (that is, in $KB)$, but I failed. How can one prove this? I'm not including my work because it consists of dozens of pages and doesn't lead anywhere...










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    You've listed the axiom B, but when you say "in natural deduction", I guess you're also including the rules of the modal logic K?
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    – Alex Kruckman
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    @AlexKruckman Wikipedia says "K := no conditions", so I'm not sure what rules of K you mean.
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    Mar 10 at 23:03










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    The necessitation rule and the distribution axiom.
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    @AlexKruckman Yes, they are included. By "natural deduction" I meant the natural deduction system which includes box-subproofs and diamond-subproofs; and then those axioms can be proven.
    $endgroup$
    – user643175
    Mar 10 at 23:06










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    Ok. If you want to ask for a proof in a particular system, it's good practice to include a link to the precise rules of that system. Every logic has a wide variety of proof systems!
    $endgroup$
    – Alex Kruckman
    Mar 10 at 23:09
















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I've been trying to prove $vdashphi land diamondpsi to diamond(psilanddiamond phi)$ in natural deduction where it's allowed to use $phito square diamond phi$ and/or $diamondsquarephitophi$ (that is, in $KB)$, but I failed. How can one prove this? I'm not including my work because it consists of dozens of pages and doesn't lead anywhere...










share|cite|improve this question









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  • $begingroup$
    You've listed the axiom B, but when you say "in natural deduction", I guess you're also including the rules of the modal logic K?
    $endgroup$
    – Alex Kruckman
    Mar 10 at 22:55










  • $begingroup$
    @AlexKruckman Wikipedia says "K := no conditions", so I'm not sure what rules of K you mean.
    $endgroup$
    – user643175
    Mar 10 at 23:03










  • $begingroup$
    The necessitation rule and the distribution axiom.
    $endgroup$
    – Alex Kruckman
    Mar 10 at 23:04










  • $begingroup$
    @AlexKruckman Yes, they are included. By "natural deduction" I meant the natural deduction system which includes box-subproofs and diamond-subproofs; and then those axioms can be proven.
    $endgroup$
    – user643175
    Mar 10 at 23:06










  • $begingroup$
    Ok. If you want to ask for a proof in a particular system, it's good practice to include a link to the precise rules of that system. Every logic has a wide variety of proof systems!
    $endgroup$
    – Alex Kruckman
    Mar 10 at 23:09














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I've been trying to prove $vdashphi land diamondpsi to diamond(psilanddiamond phi)$ in natural deduction where it's allowed to use $phito square diamond phi$ and/or $diamondsquarephitophi$ (that is, in $KB)$, but I failed. How can one prove this? I'm not including my work because it consists of dozens of pages and doesn't lead anywhere...










share|cite|improve this question









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I've been trying to prove $vdashphi land diamondpsi to diamond(psilanddiamond phi)$ in natural deduction where it's allowed to use $phito square diamond phi$ and/or $diamondsquarephitophi$ (that is, in $KB)$, but I failed. How can one prove this? I'm not including my work because it consists of dozens of pages and doesn't lead anywhere...







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  • $begingroup$
    You've listed the axiom B, but when you say "in natural deduction", I guess you're also including the rules of the modal logic K?
    $endgroup$
    – Alex Kruckman
    Mar 10 at 22:55










  • $begingroup$
    @AlexKruckman Wikipedia says "K := no conditions", so I'm not sure what rules of K you mean.
    $endgroup$
    – user643175
    Mar 10 at 23:03










  • $begingroup$
    The necessitation rule and the distribution axiom.
    $endgroup$
    – Alex Kruckman
    Mar 10 at 23:04










  • $begingroup$
    @AlexKruckman Yes, they are included. By "natural deduction" I meant the natural deduction system which includes box-subproofs and diamond-subproofs; and then those axioms can be proven.
    $endgroup$
    – user643175
    Mar 10 at 23:06










  • $begingroup$
    Ok. If you want to ask for a proof in a particular system, it's good practice to include a link to the precise rules of that system. Every logic has a wide variety of proof systems!
    $endgroup$
    – Alex Kruckman
    Mar 10 at 23:09


















  • $begingroup$
    You've listed the axiom B, but when you say "in natural deduction", I guess you're also including the rules of the modal logic K?
    $endgroup$
    – Alex Kruckman
    Mar 10 at 22:55










  • $begingroup$
    @AlexKruckman Wikipedia says "K := no conditions", so I'm not sure what rules of K you mean.
    $endgroup$
    – user643175
    Mar 10 at 23:03










  • $begingroup$
    The necessitation rule and the distribution axiom.
    $endgroup$
    – Alex Kruckman
    Mar 10 at 23:04










  • $begingroup$
    @AlexKruckman Yes, they are included. By "natural deduction" I meant the natural deduction system which includes box-subproofs and diamond-subproofs; and then those axioms can be proven.
    $endgroup$
    – user643175
    Mar 10 at 23:06










  • $begingroup$
    Ok. If you want to ask for a proof in a particular system, it's good practice to include a link to the precise rules of that system. Every logic has a wide variety of proof systems!
    $endgroup$
    – Alex Kruckman
    Mar 10 at 23:09
















$begingroup$
You've listed the axiom B, but when you say "in natural deduction", I guess you're also including the rules of the modal logic K?
$endgroup$
– Alex Kruckman
Mar 10 at 22:55




$begingroup$
You've listed the axiom B, but when you say "in natural deduction", I guess you're also including the rules of the modal logic K?
$endgroup$
– Alex Kruckman
Mar 10 at 22:55












$begingroup$
@AlexKruckman Wikipedia says "K := no conditions", so I'm not sure what rules of K you mean.
$endgroup$
– user643175
Mar 10 at 23:03




$begingroup$
@AlexKruckman Wikipedia says "K := no conditions", so I'm not sure what rules of K you mean.
$endgroup$
– user643175
Mar 10 at 23:03












$begingroup$
The necessitation rule and the distribution axiom.
$endgroup$
– Alex Kruckman
Mar 10 at 23:04




$begingroup$
The necessitation rule and the distribution axiom.
$endgroup$
– Alex Kruckman
Mar 10 at 23:04












$begingroup$
@AlexKruckman Yes, they are included. By "natural deduction" I meant the natural deduction system which includes box-subproofs and diamond-subproofs; and then those axioms can be proven.
$endgroup$
– user643175
Mar 10 at 23:06




$begingroup$
@AlexKruckman Yes, they are included. By "natural deduction" I meant the natural deduction system which includes box-subproofs and diamond-subproofs; and then those axioms can be proven.
$endgroup$
– user643175
Mar 10 at 23:06












$begingroup$
Ok. If you want to ask for a proof in a particular system, it's good practice to include a link to the precise rules of that system. Every logic has a wide variety of proof systems!
$endgroup$
– Alex Kruckman
Mar 10 at 23:09




$begingroup$
Ok. If you want to ask for a proof in a particular system, it's good practice to include a link to the precise rules of that system. Every logic has a wide variety of proof systems!
$endgroup$
– Alex Kruckman
Mar 10 at 23:09










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Here's a sketch of the idea, which I'll leave to you to translate into a formal proof in your system, if you care to.



Let's assume $phi$ and $lozenge psi$. From B and modus ponens, we get $squarelozenge phi$, so we get $(squarelozengephi land lozenge psi)$



Now as an instance of the distribution axiom K, we have: $$square (lozenge phi rightarrow lnot psi) rightarrow (square lozenge phi rightarrow square lnot psi)$$



The contrapositive of this implication is: $$lnot (squarelozenge phi rightarrow square lnot psi) rightarrow lozenge lnot (lozenge phi rightarrow lnot psi)$$



Turning $lnot (prightarrow q)$ into $pland lnot q$ in two places, we get: $$(squarelozenge phi land lozenge psi) rightarrow lozenge (psi land lozenge phi)$$



Finally, by modus ponens, we get $$lozenge (psi land lozenge phi)$$






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$begingroup$

Here's a sketch of the idea, which I'll leave to you to translate into a formal proof in your system, if you care to.



Let's assume $phi$ and $lozenge psi$. From B and modus ponens, we get $squarelozenge phi$, so we get $(squarelozengephi land lozenge psi)$



Now as an instance of the distribution axiom K, we have: $$square (lozenge phi rightarrow lnot psi) rightarrow (square lozenge phi rightarrow square lnot psi)$$



The contrapositive of this implication is: $$lnot (squarelozenge phi rightarrow square lnot psi) rightarrow lozenge lnot (lozenge phi rightarrow lnot psi)$$



Turning $lnot (prightarrow q)$ into $pland lnot q$ in two places, we get: $$(squarelozenge phi land lozenge psi) rightarrow lozenge (psi land lozenge phi)$$



Finally, by modus ponens, we get $$lozenge (psi land lozenge phi)$$






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    Thanks! It seems I'd have never come up with the idea of considering $square (lozenge phi rightarrow lnot psi) rightarrow (square lozenge phi rightarrow square lnot psi)$.
    $endgroup$
    – user643175
    Mar 10 at 23:41
















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$begingroup$

Here's a sketch of the idea, which I'll leave to you to translate into a formal proof in your system, if you care to.



Let's assume $phi$ and $lozenge psi$. From B and modus ponens, we get $squarelozenge phi$, so we get $(squarelozengephi land lozenge psi)$



Now as an instance of the distribution axiom K, we have: $$square (lozenge phi rightarrow lnot psi) rightarrow (square lozenge phi rightarrow square lnot psi)$$



The contrapositive of this implication is: $$lnot (squarelozenge phi rightarrow square lnot psi) rightarrow lozenge lnot (lozenge phi rightarrow lnot psi)$$



Turning $lnot (prightarrow q)$ into $pland lnot q$ in two places, we get: $$(squarelozenge phi land lozenge psi) rightarrow lozenge (psi land lozenge phi)$$



Finally, by modus ponens, we get $$lozenge (psi land lozenge phi)$$






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  • $begingroup$
    Thanks! It seems I'd have never come up with the idea of considering $square (lozenge phi rightarrow lnot psi) rightarrow (square lozenge phi rightarrow square lnot psi)$.
    $endgroup$
    – user643175
    Mar 10 at 23:41














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$begingroup$

Here's a sketch of the idea, which I'll leave to you to translate into a formal proof in your system, if you care to.



Let's assume $phi$ and $lozenge psi$. From B and modus ponens, we get $squarelozenge phi$, so we get $(squarelozengephi land lozenge psi)$



Now as an instance of the distribution axiom K, we have: $$square (lozenge phi rightarrow lnot psi) rightarrow (square lozenge phi rightarrow square lnot psi)$$



The contrapositive of this implication is: $$lnot (squarelozenge phi rightarrow square lnot psi) rightarrow lozenge lnot (lozenge phi rightarrow lnot psi)$$



Turning $lnot (prightarrow q)$ into $pland lnot q$ in two places, we get: $$(squarelozenge phi land lozenge psi) rightarrow lozenge (psi land lozenge phi)$$



Finally, by modus ponens, we get $$lozenge (psi land lozenge phi)$$






share|cite|improve this answer









$endgroup$



Here's a sketch of the idea, which I'll leave to you to translate into a formal proof in your system, if you care to.



Let's assume $phi$ and $lozenge psi$. From B and modus ponens, we get $squarelozenge phi$, so we get $(squarelozengephi land lozenge psi)$



Now as an instance of the distribution axiom K, we have: $$square (lozenge phi rightarrow lnot psi) rightarrow (square lozenge phi rightarrow square lnot psi)$$



The contrapositive of this implication is: $$lnot (squarelozenge phi rightarrow square lnot psi) rightarrow lozenge lnot (lozenge phi rightarrow lnot psi)$$



Turning $lnot (prightarrow q)$ into $pland lnot q$ in two places, we get: $$(squarelozenge phi land lozenge psi) rightarrow lozenge (psi land lozenge phi)$$



Finally, by modus ponens, we get $$lozenge (psi land lozenge phi)$$







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    Thanks! It seems I'd have never come up with the idea of considering $square (lozenge phi rightarrow lnot psi) rightarrow (square lozenge phi rightarrow square lnot psi)$.
    $endgroup$
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  • $begingroup$
    Thanks! It seems I'd have never come up with the idea of considering $square (lozenge phi rightarrow lnot psi) rightarrow (square lozenge phi rightarrow square lnot psi)$.
    $endgroup$
    – user643175
    Mar 10 at 23:41
















$begingroup$
Thanks! It seems I'd have never come up with the idea of considering $square (lozenge phi rightarrow lnot psi) rightarrow (square lozenge phi rightarrow square lnot psi)$.
$endgroup$
– user643175
Mar 10 at 23:41




$begingroup$
Thanks! It seems I'd have never come up with the idea of considering $square (lozenge phi rightarrow lnot psi) rightarrow (square lozenge phi rightarrow square lnot psi)$.
$endgroup$
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