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I'm trying to solve the above exercise in Ghatmann's notes on algebraic geometry.



I tried to consider the real case and I suspect that X1 should correspond to a plane that intersects with exactly one of the cones, whereas X2 is the case in which both cones are intersected (not at the origin).



Next i tried to look at the general case of a quadratic polynomial in two variables to see what happens if I act on it with an affine change of coordinates(i.e. linear transformation followed by translation), this quickly got very complicated.



My guess is that I need to figure out how the irreducibility condition affects the general equation, and maybe extend the intuition I gained for the real case to arbitrary fields(of characteristic $ne$ 2).



However, right now I'm kind of stuck, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks.



Note that the field $K$ is assumed to be algebraically closed.










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I'm trying to solve the above exercise in Ghatmann's notes on algebraic geometry.



I tried to consider the real case and I suspect that X1 should correspond to a plane that intersects with exactly one of the cones, whereas X2 is the case in which both cones are intersected (not at the origin).



Next i tried to look at the general case of a quadratic polynomial in two variables to see what happens if I act on it with an affine change of coordinates(i.e. linear transformation followed by translation), this quickly got very complicated.



My guess is that I need to figure out how the irreducibility condition affects the general equation, and maybe extend the intuition I gained for the real case to arbitrary fields(of characteristic $ne$ 2).



However, right now I'm kind of stuck, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks.



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I'm trying to solve the above exercise in Ghatmann's notes on algebraic geometry.



I tried to consider the real case and I suspect that X1 should correspond to a plane that intersects with exactly one of the cones, whereas X2 is the case in which both cones are intersected (not at the origin).



Next i tried to look at the general case of a quadratic polynomial in two variables to see what happens if I act on it with an affine change of coordinates(i.e. linear transformation followed by translation), this quickly got very complicated.



My guess is that I need to figure out how the irreducibility condition affects the general equation, and maybe extend the intuition I gained for the real case to arbitrary fields(of characteristic $ne$ 2).



However, right now I'm kind of stuck, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks.



Note that the field $K$ is assumed to be algebraically closed.










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I'm trying to solve the above exercise in Ghatmann's notes on algebraic geometry.



I tried to consider the real case and I suspect that X1 should correspond to a plane that intersects with exactly one of the cones, whereas X2 is the case in which both cones are intersected (not at the origin).



Next i tried to look at the general case of a quadratic polynomial in two variables to see what happens if I act on it with an affine change of coordinates(i.e. linear transformation followed by translation), this quickly got very complicated.



My guess is that I need to figure out how the irreducibility condition affects the general equation, and maybe extend the intuition I gained for the real case to arbitrary fields(of characteristic $ne$ 2).



However, right now I'm kind of stuck, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks.



Note that the field $K$ is assumed to be algebraically closed.







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    I assume $K$ is algebraically closed?
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    Yeah, it's closed. I will edit my question to reflect this.
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    I assume $K$ is algebraically closed?
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Yeah, it's closed. I will edit my question to reflect this.
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Assume $K$ is algebraically closed, with characteristic not $2$.



Suppose your irreducible conic is given by $ax^2+bxy+cy^2+dx+ey+f=0$ (up to a constant factor).



Consider the quadratic form $ax^2+bxy+cy^2$. Since $K$ is algebraically closed, this factors into a product of homogeneous linear forms, $aell_1ell_2$, with $ell_1$ and $ell_2$ monic in $x$. If $ell_1=ell_2$, then let $dx+ey=dell_3$. If $ell_3=ell_1$ as well, then we could rewrite our equation as $aell_3^2 + dell_3 + f=0$, which is reducible, since $K$ is algebraically closed. Otherwise, $ell_3 ne ell_1$, so let $x'=sqrt{-a}ell_1$, $y'=dell_3 + f$ to get that our original conic is given by $y' - x'^2$ in our new variables.



Otherwise, if $ell_1ne ell_2$, take $x_1=aell_1$, $y_1=ell_2$, and rewrite our conic in terms of $x_1$ and $y_1$, so that it is of the form
$$x_1y_1+Ax_1 + By_1+C =0.$$
Let $x_2=x_1+B$, $y_2=y_1+A$, so that the conic can be rewritten as
$$x_2y_2 + (C-AB)=0.$$
If $C-AB=0$, then the conic is reducible, so finally
let $x'=x_2$, $y'=frac{-1}{C-AB}y_2$, so that
$$x'y' -1=0,$$
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    Assume $K$ is algebraically closed, with characteristic not $2$.



    Suppose your irreducible conic is given by $ax^2+bxy+cy^2+dx+ey+f=0$ (up to a constant factor).



    Consider the quadratic form $ax^2+bxy+cy^2$. Since $K$ is algebraically closed, this factors into a product of homogeneous linear forms, $aell_1ell_2$, with $ell_1$ and $ell_2$ monic in $x$. If $ell_1=ell_2$, then let $dx+ey=dell_3$. If $ell_3=ell_1$ as well, then we could rewrite our equation as $aell_3^2 + dell_3 + f=0$, which is reducible, since $K$ is algebraically closed. Otherwise, $ell_3 ne ell_1$, so let $x'=sqrt{-a}ell_1$, $y'=dell_3 + f$ to get that our original conic is given by $y' - x'^2$ in our new variables.



    Otherwise, if $ell_1ne ell_2$, take $x_1=aell_1$, $y_1=ell_2$, and rewrite our conic in terms of $x_1$ and $y_1$, so that it is of the form
    $$x_1y_1+Ax_1 + By_1+C =0.$$
    Let $x_2=x_1+B$, $y_2=y_1+A$, so that the conic can be rewritten as
    $$x_2y_2 + (C-AB)=0.$$
    If $C-AB=0$, then the conic is reducible, so finally
    let $x'=x_2$, $y'=frac{-1}{C-AB}y_2$, so that
    $$x'y' -1=0,$$
    as desired.






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      Assume $K$ is algebraically closed, with characteristic not $2$.



      Suppose your irreducible conic is given by $ax^2+bxy+cy^2+dx+ey+f=0$ (up to a constant factor).



      Consider the quadratic form $ax^2+bxy+cy^2$. Since $K$ is algebraically closed, this factors into a product of homogeneous linear forms, $aell_1ell_2$, with $ell_1$ and $ell_2$ monic in $x$. If $ell_1=ell_2$, then let $dx+ey=dell_3$. If $ell_3=ell_1$ as well, then we could rewrite our equation as $aell_3^2 + dell_3 + f=0$, which is reducible, since $K$ is algebraically closed. Otherwise, $ell_3 ne ell_1$, so let $x'=sqrt{-a}ell_1$, $y'=dell_3 + f$ to get that our original conic is given by $y' - x'^2$ in our new variables.



      Otherwise, if $ell_1ne ell_2$, take $x_1=aell_1$, $y_1=ell_2$, and rewrite our conic in terms of $x_1$ and $y_1$, so that it is of the form
      $$x_1y_1+Ax_1 + By_1+C =0.$$
      Let $x_2=x_1+B$, $y_2=y_1+A$, so that the conic can be rewritten as
      $$x_2y_2 + (C-AB)=0.$$
      If $C-AB=0$, then the conic is reducible, so finally
      let $x'=x_2$, $y'=frac{-1}{C-AB}y_2$, so that
      $$x'y' -1=0,$$
      as desired.






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        Assume $K$ is algebraically closed, with characteristic not $2$.



        Suppose your irreducible conic is given by $ax^2+bxy+cy^2+dx+ey+f=0$ (up to a constant factor).



        Consider the quadratic form $ax^2+bxy+cy^2$. Since $K$ is algebraically closed, this factors into a product of homogeneous linear forms, $aell_1ell_2$, with $ell_1$ and $ell_2$ monic in $x$. If $ell_1=ell_2$, then let $dx+ey=dell_3$. If $ell_3=ell_1$ as well, then we could rewrite our equation as $aell_3^2 + dell_3 + f=0$, which is reducible, since $K$ is algebraically closed. Otherwise, $ell_3 ne ell_1$, so let $x'=sqrt{-a}ell_1$, $y'=dell_3 + f$ to get that our original conic is given by $y' - x'^2$ in our new variables.



        Otherwise, if $ell_1ne ell_2$, take $x_1=aell_1$, $y_1=ell_2$, and rewrite our conic in terms of $x_1$ and $y_1$, so that it is of the form
        $$x_1y_1+Ax_1 + By_1+C =0.$$
        Let $x_2=x_1+B$, $y_2=y_1+A$, so that the conic can be rewritten as
        $$x_2y_2 + (C-AB)=0.$$
        If $C-AB=0$, then the conic is reducible, so finally
        let $x'=x_2$, $y'=frac{-1}{C-AB}y_2$, so that
        $$x'y' -1=0,$$
        as desired.






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        Assume $K$ is algebraically closed, with characteristic not $2$.



        Suppose your irreducible conic is given by $ax^2+bxy+cy^2+dx+ey+f=0$ (up to a constant factor).



        Consider the quadratic form $ax^2+bxy+cy^2$. Since $K$ is algebraically closed, this factors into a product of homogeneous linear forms, $aell_1ell_2$, with $ell_1$ and $ell_2$ monic in $x$. If $ell_1=ell_2$, then let $dx+ey=dell_3$. If $ell_3=ell_1$ as well, then we could rewrite our equation as $aell_3^2 + dell_3 + f=0$, which is reducible, since $K$ is algebraically closed. Otherwise, $ell_3 ne ell_1$, so let $x'=sqrt{-a}ell_1$, $y'=dell_3 + f$ to get that our original conic is given by $y' - x'^2$ in our new variables.



        Otherwise, if $ell_1ne ell_2$, take $x_1=aell_1$, $y_1=ell_2$, and rewrite our conic in terms of $x_1$ and $y_1$, so that it is of the form
        $$x_1y_1+Ax_1 + By_1+C =0.$$
        Let $x_2=x_1+B$, $y_2=y_1+A$, so that the conic can be rewritten as
        $$x_2y_2 + (C-AB)=0.$$
        If $C-AB=0$, then the conic is reducible, so finally
        let $x'=x_2$, $y'=frac{-1}{C-AB}y_2$, so that
        $$x'y' -1=0,$$
        as desired.







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