If $F_X(x), F_Y(y)$ are two CDF's for r.v.'s $X$ and $Y$, will $F_{X,Y}(x,y) < F_X(x) cdot F_Y(y)$ if $X$...

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If $F_X(x), F_Y(y)$ are two CDF's for r.v.'s $X$ and $Y$, will $F_{X,Y}(x,y)



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If $F_X(x), F_Y(y)$ are two CDF's for r.v.'s $X$ and $Y$, if $X$ and $Y$ are independent, then:



$$
F_{X,Y}(x,y) = F_X(x) cdot F_Y(y)
$$



However, I am wondering more generally if



$$
F_{X,Y}(x,y) < F_X(x) cdot F_Y(y)
$$



if $X$ and $Y$ are not independent or if it depends how the joint distribution is constructed?










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    If $F_X(x), F_Y(y)$ are two CDF's for r.v.'s $X$ and $Y$, if $X$ and $Y$ are independent, then:



    $$
    F_{X,Y}(x,y) = F_X(x) cdot F_Y(y)
    $$



    However, I am wondering more generally if



    $$
    F_{X,Y}(x,y) < F_X(x) cdot F_Y(y)
    $$



    if $X$ and $Y$ are not independent or if it depends how the joint distribution is constructed?










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      If $F_X(x), F_Y(y)$ are two CDF's for r.v.'s $X$ and $Y$, if $X$ and $Y$ are independent, then:



      $$
      F_{X,Y}(x,y) = F_X(x) cdot F_Y(y)
      $$



      However, I am wondering more generally if



      $$
      F_{X,Y}(x,y) < F_X(x) cdot F_Y(y)
      $$



      if $X$ and $Y$ are not independent or if it depends how the joint distribution is constructed?










      share|cite|improve this question









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      If $F_X(x), F_Y(y)$ are two CDF's for r.v.'s $X$ and $Y$, if $X$ and $Y$ are independent, then:



      $$
      F_{X,Y}(x,y) = F_X(x) cdot F_Y(y)
      $$



      However, I am wondering more generally if



      $$
      F_{X,Y}(x,y) < F_X(x) cdot F_Y(y)
      $$



      if $X$ and $Y$ are not independent or if it depends how the joint distribution is constructed?







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          If $X=Y$ then $F_X(x)F_Y(x)=(F_X(x))^{2} <F_X(x)=F_{X,Y}(x,x)$ provided $F_X(x)<1$.






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            For cases not perfectly dependent, is there a general rule of thumb?
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          If $X=Y$ then $F_X(x)F_Y(x)=(F_X(x))^{2} <F_X(x)=F_{X,Y}(x,x)$ provided $F_X(x)<1$.






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          No. there is no reason to expect an inequalilty of the type you have come up with.
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