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Should I file my taxes? No income, unemployed, but paid 2k in student loan interest
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This question is hypothetical.
I was unemployed for the entire year of 2018 and had no income. I lived with a parent and had enough savings from a previous job to pay for myself and make all of my student loan payments.
I paid about $2,000 in student loan interest.
Should I file my taxes this year, and will I be able to get a tax refund in the mail? In previous years when I was employed, I filed my taxes and got a nice refund, partly because of the interest I paid on student loans.
This is in New Jersey, America.
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This question is hypothetical.
I was unemployed for the entire year of 2018 and had no income. I lived with a parent and had enough savings from a previous job to pay for myself and make all of my student loan payments.
I paid about $2,000 in student loan interest.
Should I file my taxes this year, and will I be able to get a tax refund in the mail? In previous years when I was employed, I filed my taxes and got a nice refund, partly because of the interest I paid on student loans.
This is in New Jersey, America.
united-states taxes student-loan interest unemployment
New contributor
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Just to clarify, will your parents claim you as a dependent?
– Nosjack
2 days ago
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"Should I file" and "Will I get a refund" are two different questions. Simple filings are free and simple to do. No downside, free, and simple things should generally be done.
– corsiKa
2 days ago
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This question is hypothetical.
I was unemployed for the entire year of 2018 and had no income. I lived with a parent and had enough savings from a previous job to pay for myself and make all of my student loan payments.
I paid about $2,000 in student loan interest.
Should I file my taxes this year, and will I be able to get a tax refund in the mail? In previous years when I was employed, I filed my taxes and got a nice refund, partly because of the interest I paid on student loans.
This is in New Jersey, America.
united-states taxes student-loan interest unemployment
New contributor
This question is hypothetical.
I was unemployed for the entire year of 2018 and had no income. I lived with a parent and had enough savings from a previous job to pay for myself and make all of my student loan payments.
I paid about $2,000 in student loan interest.
Should I file my taxes this year, and will I be able to get a tax refund in the mail? In previous years when I was employed, I filed my taxes and got a nice refund, partly because of the interest I paid on student loans.
This is in New Jersey, America.
united-states taxes student-loan interest unemployment
united-states taxes student-loan interest unemployment
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Just to clarify, will your parents claim you as a dependent?
– Nosjack
2 days ago
5
"Should I file" and "Will I get a refund" are two different questions. Simple filings are free and simple to do. No downside, free, and simple things should generally be done.
– corsiKa
2 days ago
add a comment |
5
Just to clarify, will your parents claim you as a dependent?
– Nosjack
2 days ago
5
"Should I file" and "Will I get a refund" are two different questions. Simple filings are free and simple to do. No downside, free, and simple things should generally be done.
– corsiKa
2 days ago
5
5
Just to clarify, will your parents claim you as a dependent?
– Nosjack
2 days ago
Just to clarify, will your parents claim you as a dependent?
– Nosjack
2 days ago
5
5
"Should I file" and "Will I get a refund" are two different questions. Simple filings are free and simple to do. No downside, free, and simple things should generally be done.
– corsiKa
2 days ago
"Should I file" and "Will I get a refund" are two different questions. Simple filings are free and simple to do. No downside, free, and simple things should generally be done.
– corsiKa
2 days ago
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Student loan interest is a deduction. A deduction reduces your tax liability. If you had no income and you don't have a tax liability you can't get a refund since you didn't get more tax withheld than you have to pay.
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if you have an IRA, convert a chunk to Roth, and deduct your student loan deduction from that tax liability.
– Aganju
2 days ago
If OP files, might they be able to carry that interest over to future years?
– corsiKa
2 days ago
2
Deductions reduce your taxable income if possible (i.e. if you have income to deduct from); reducing your taxable income reduces your taxes but not dollar for dollar, e.g. in the 22% bracket reducing TI $1000 reduces taxes $220. Credits directly reduce your liability. Student loan interest is not a credit, but if you are currently a student (and not claimed as a dependent) or parent of one, AOTC or LLC is a credit.
– dave_thompson_085
2 days ago
2
@R.. since the question is hypothetical... how did the person have enough money in savings to be able to make their student loan payments? They might have savings from a career previous to going back to school. Perhaps they also have an IRA from that time in their life.
– Erik
2 days ago
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@R.. , the OP wrote: "had enough savings from a previous job".
– Aganju
2 days ago
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The word "refund" means "money that you previously paid and that you are now getting back". A tax refund is where you had money withheld from your paycheck (or you otherwise made tax payments), and you get some of that back. If you didn't pay any taxes, then you can't get a refund, because there's no money that you paid to refund (there are a few complications to that due to things like Earned Income Tax Credit, but since you didn't have any income that doesn't apply). If you have deductions that exceed your taxable income, they are "wasted" unless you can carry them forward.
1
In addition to requiring 'Goldilocks' income (some but not too much), EITC requires you not be a dependent or qualifying child of someone else, which this OP might be.
– dave_thompson_085
2 days ago
1
There is such a thing as a "refundable credit", which is money that comes back to you regardless of whether you had money withheld or have tax liability. They are rare though, and it is unlikely OP qualifies for any of them given the situation they described.
– Seth R
2 days ago
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EXAMPLE: If you paid $2,000 in interest in a year and you can demonstrate that you received $5,000 salary in a year, you would be able to say to show on your form this information and they will tax you only for the $3,000 difference.
FOR YOU: You apparently earned no money in the tax-year, but paid $2,000 in interest the tax year. This will mean you are not taxed in 2018 for income. You will not get anything from it, but it's free, easy, and very important to show: When you fill out your form and I strongly encourage you to do so, first check that you're not a dependent already, then file showing that you made no money, but you paid interest on student loans.
The reason for filing, even though you won't receive anything is that you may be interested in buying a home or something and they'll ask for your last two tax filings, etc. and you will show you did due diligence.
Bonus: if by some miracle they decide to give us a bit of relief for our outrageous student loans you can show documentation that you did everything right and by the book.
I have an outrageous mortgage, where's my relief?
– Glen Yates
2 days ago
@GlenYates - you own property.
– Mikey
yesterday
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You are not required to file a return because your income is less than the filing threshold. The IRS has a site here to check that. I did my best to guess answers, even assuming that you were able to be claimed as a dependent by someone else, and it said you did not have to file. If you do file, you will have zero liability. As others have said, you might want to file so you have a return to show people in the future. You are allowed to file for three years, so if you don't file now and it becomes an issue you can file then. You would also want to file if you had a refund coming, either because you had tax withheld (you didn't) or you had a refundable education credit coming.
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Student loan interest is a deduction. A deduction reduces your tax liability. If you had no income and you don't have a tax liability you can't get a refund since you didn't get more tax withheld than you have to pay.
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if you have an IRA, convert a chunk to Roth, and deduct your student loan deduction from that tax liability.
– Aganju
2 days ago
If OP files, might they be able to carry that interest over to future years?
– corsiKa
2 days ago
2
Deductions reduce your taxable income if possible (i.e. if you have income to deduct from); reducing your taxable income reduces your taxes but not dollar for dollar, e.g. in the 22% bracket reducing TI $1000 reduces taxes $220. Credits directly reduce your liability. Student loan interest is not a credit, but if you are currently a student (and not claimed as a dependent) or parent of one, AOTC or LLC is a credit.
– dave_thompson_085
2 days ago
2
@R.. since the question is hypothetical... how did the person have enough money in savings to be able to make their student loan payments? They might have savings from a career previous to going back to school. Perhaps they also have an IRA from that time in their life.
– Erik
2 days ago
3
@R.. , the OP wrote: "had enough savings from a previous job".
– Aganju
2 days ago
|
show 3 more comments
Student loan interest is a deduction. A deduction reduces your tax liability. If you had no income and you don't have a tax liability you can't get a refund since you didn't get more tax withheld than you have to pay.
8
if you have an IRA, convert a chunk to Roth, and deduct your student loan deduction from that tax liability.
– Aganju
2 days ago
If OP files, might they be able to carry that interest over to future years?
– corsiKa
2 days ago
2
Deductions reduce your taxable income if possible (i.e. if you have income to deduct from); reducing your taxable income reduces your taxes but not dollar for dollar, e.g. in the 22% bracket reducing TI $1000 reduces taxes $220. Credits directly reduce your liability. Student loan interest is not a credit, but if you are currently a student (and not claimed as a dependent) or parent of one, AOTC or LLC is a credit.
– dave_thompson_085
2 days ago
2
@R.. since the question is hypothetical... how did the person have enough money in savings to be able to make their student loan payments? They might have savings from a career previous to going back to school. Perhaps they also have an IRA from that time in their life.
– Erik
2 days ago
3
@R.. , the OP wrote: "had enough savings from a previous job".
– Aganju
2 days ago
|
show 3 more comments
Student loan interest is a deduction. A deduction reduces your tax liability. If you had no income and you don't have a tax liability you can't get a refund since you didn't get more tax withheld than you have to pay.
Student loan interest is a deduction. A deduction reduces your tax liability. If you had no income and you don't have a tax liability you can't get a refund since you didn't get more tax withheld than you have to pay.
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if you have an IRA, convert a chunk to Roth, and deduct your student loan deduction from that tax liability.
– Aganju
2 days ago
If OP files, might they be able to carry that interest over to future years?
– corsiKa
2 days ago
2
Deductions reduce your taxable income if possible (i.e. if you have income to deduct from); reducing your taxable income reduces your taxes but not dollar for dollar, e.g. in the 22% bracket reducing TI $1000 reduces taxes $220. Credits directly reduce your liability. Student loan interest is not a credit, but if you are currently a student (and not claimed as a dependent) or parent of one, AOTC or LLC is a credit.
– dave_thompson_085
2 days ago
2
@R.. since the question is hypothetical... how did the person have enough money in savings to be able to make their student loan payments? They might have savings from a career previous to going back to school. Perhaps they also have an IRA from that time in their life.
– Erik
2 days ago
3
@R.. , the OP wrote: "had enough savings from a previous job".
– Aganju
2 days ago
|
show 3 more comments
8
if you have an IRA, convert a chunk to Roth, and deduct your student loan deduction from that tax liability.
– Aganju
2 days ago
If OP files, might they be able to carry that interest over to future years?
– corsiKa
2 days ago
2
Deductions reduce your taxable income if possible (i.e. if you have income to deduct from); reducing your taxable income reduces your taxes but not dollar for dollar, e.g. in the 22% bracket reducing TI $1000 reduces taxes $220. Credits directly reduce your liability. Student loan interest is not a credit, but if you are currently a student (and not claimed as a dependent) or parent of one, AOTC or LLC is a credit.
– dave_thompson_085
2 days ago
2
@R.. since the question is hypothetical... how did the person have enough money in savings to be able to make their student loan payments? They might have savings from a career previous to going back to school. Perhaps they also have an IRA from that time in their life.
– Erik
2 days ago
3
@R.. , the OP wrote: "had enough savings from a previous job".
– Aganju
2 days ago
8
8
if you have an IRA, convert a chunk to Roth, and deduct your student loan deduction from that tax liability.
– Aganju
2 days ago
if you have an IRA, convert a chunk to Roth, and deduct your student loan deduction from that tax liability.
– Aganju
2 days ago
If OP files, might they be able to carry that interest over to future years?
– corsiKa
2 days ago
If OP files, might they be able to carry that interest over to future years?
– corsiKa
2 days ago
2
2
Deductions reduce your taxable income if possible (i.e. if you have income to deduct from); reducing your taxable income reduces your taxes but not dollar for dollar, e.g. in the 22% bracket reducing TI $1000 reduces taxes $220. Credits directly reduce your liability. Student loan interest is not a credit, but if you are currently a student (and not claimed as a dependent) or parent of one, AOTC or LLC is a credit.
– dave_thompson_085
2 days ago
Deductions reduce your taxable income if possible (i.e. if you have income to deduct from); reducing your taxable income reduces your taxes but not dollar for dollar, e.g. in the 22% bracket reducing TI $1000 reduces taxes $220. Credits directly reduce your liability. Student loan interest is not a credit, but if you are currently a student (and not claimed as a dependent) or parent of one, AOTC or LLC is a credit.
– dave_thompson_085
2 days ago
2
2
@R.. since the question is hypothetical... how did the person have enough money in savings to be able to make their student loan payments? They might have savings from a career previous to going back to school. Perhaps they also have an IRA from that time in their life.
– Erik
2 days ago
@R.. since the question is hypothetical... how did the person have enough money in savings to be able to make their student loan payments? They might have savings from a career previous to going back to school. Perhaps they also have an IRA from that time in their life.
– Erik
2 days ago
3
3
@R.. , the OP wrote: "had enough savings from a previous job".
– Aganju
2 days ago
@R.. , the OP wrote: "had enough savings from a previous job".
– Aganju
2 days ago
|
show 3 more comments
The word "refund" means "money that you previously paid and that you are now getting back". A tax refund is where you had money withheld from your paycheck (or you otherwise made tax payments), and you get some of that back. If you didn't pay any taxes, then you can't get a refund, because there's no money that you paid to refund (there are a few complications to that due to things like Earned Income Tax Credit, but since you didn't have any income that doesn't apply). If you have deductions that exceed your taxable income, they are "wasted" unless you can carry them forward.
1
In addition to requiring 'Goldilocks' income (some but not too much), EITC requires you not be a dependent or qualifying child of someone else, which this OP might be.
– dave_thompson_085
2 days ago
1
There is such a thing as a "refundable credit", which is money that comes back to you regardless of whether you had money withheld or have tax liability. They are rare though, and it is unlikely OP qualifies for any of them given the situation they described.
– Seth R
2 days ago
add a comment |
The word "refund" means "money that you previously paid and that you are now getting back". A tax refund is where you had money withheld from your paycheck (or you otherwise made tax payments), and you get some of that back. If you didn't pay any taxes, then you can't get a refund, because there's no money that you paid to refund (there are a few complications to that due to things like Earned Income Tax Credit, but since you didn't have any income that doesn't apply). If you have deductions that exceed your taxable income, they are "wasted" unless you can carry them forward.
1
In addition to requiring 'Goldilocks' income (some but not too much), EITC requires you not be a dependent or qualifying child of someone else, which this OP might be.
– dave_thompson_085
2 days ago
1
There is such a thing as a "refundable credit", which is money that comes back to you regardless of whether you had money withheld or have tax liability. They are rare though, and it is unlikely OP qualifies for any of them given the situation they described.
– Seth R
2 days ago
add a comment |
The word "refund" means "money that you previously paid and that you are now getting back". A tax refund is where you had money withheld from your paycheck (or you otherwise made tax payments), and you get some of that back. If you didn't pay any taxes, then you can't get a refund, because there's no money that you paid to refund (there are a few complications to that due to things like Earned Income Tax Credit, but since you didn't have any income that doesn't apply). If you have deductions that exceed your taxable income, they are "wasted" unless you can carry them forward.
The word "refund" means "money that you previously paid and that you are now getting back". A tax refund is where you had money withheld from your paycheck (or you otherwise made tax payments), and you get some of that back. If you didn't pay any taxes, then you can't get a refund, because there's no money that you paid to refund (there are a few complications to that due to things like Earned Income Tax Credit, but since you didn't have any income that doesn't apply). If you have deductions that exceed your taxable income, they are "wasted" unless you can carry them forward.
answered 2 days ago
AcccumulationAcccumulation
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In addition to requiring 'Goldilocks' income (some but not too much), EITC requires you not be a dependent or qualifying child of someone else, which this OP might be.
– dave_thompson_085
2 days ago
1
There is such a thing as a "refundable credit", which is money that comes back to you regardless of whether you had money withheld or have tax liability. They are rare though, and it is unlikely OP qualifies for any of them given the situation they described.
– Seth R
2 days ago
add a comment |
1
In addition to requiring 'Goldilocks' income (some but not too much), EITC requires you not be a dependent or qualifying child of someone else, which this OP might be.
– dave_thompson_085
2 days ago
1
There is such a thing as a "refundable credit", which is money that comes back to you regardless of whether you had money withheld or have tax liability. They are rare though, and it is unlikely OP qualifies for any of them given the situation they described.
– Seth R
2 days ago
1
1
In addition to requiring 'Goldilocks' income (some but not too much), EITC requires you not be a dependent or qualifying child of someone else, which this OP might be.
– dave_thompson_085
2 days ago
In addition to requiring 'Goldilocks' income (some but not too much), EITC requires you not be a dependent or qualifying child of someone else, which this OP might be.
– dave_thompson_085
2 days ago
1
1
There is such a thing as a "refundable credit", which is money that comes back to you regardless of whether you had money withheld or have tax liability. They are rare though, and it is unlikely OP qualifies for any of them given the situation they described.
– Seth R
2 days ago
There is such a thing as a "refundable credit", which is money that comes back to you regardless of whether you had money withheld or have tax liability. They are rare though, and it is unlikely OP qualifies for any of them given the situation they described.
– Seth R
2 days ago
add a comment |
EXAMPLE: If you paid $2,000 in interest in a year and you can demonstrate that you received $5,000 salary in a year, you would be able to say to show on your form this information and they will tax you only for the $3,000 difference.
FOR YOU: You apparently earned no money in the tax-year, but paid $2,000 in interest the tax year. This will mean you are not taxed in 2018 for income. You will not get anything from it, but it's free, easy, and very important to show: When you fill out your form and I strongly encourage you to do so, first check that you're not a dependent already, then file showing that you made no money, but you paid interest on student loans.
The reason for filing, even though you won't receive anything is that you may be interested in buying a home or something and they'll ask for your last two tax filings, etc. and you will show you did due diligence.
Bonus: if by some miracle they decide to give us a bit of relief for our outrageous student loans you can show documentation that you did everything right and by the book.
I have an outrageous mortgage, where's my relief?
– Glen Yates
2 days ago
@GlenYates - you own property.
– Mikey
yesterday
add a comment |
EXAMPLE: If you paid $2,000 in interest in a year and you can demonstrate that you received $5,000 salary in a year, you would be able to say to show on your form this information and they will tax you only for the $3,000 difference.
FOR YOU: You apparently earned no money in the tax-year, but paid $2,000 in interest the tax year. This will mean you are not taxed in 2018 for income. You will not get anything from it, but it's free, easy, and very important to show: When you fill out your form and I strongly encourage you to do so, first check that you're not a dependent already, then file showing that you made no money, but you paid interest on student loans.
The reason for filing, even though you won't receive anything is that you may be interested in buying a home or something and they'll ask for your last two tax filings, etc. and you will show you did due diligence.
Bonus: if by some miracle they decide to give us a bit of relief for our outrageous student loans you can show documentation that you did everything right and by the book.
I have an outrageous mortgage, where's my relief?
– Glen Yates
2 days ago
@GlenYates - you own property.
– Mikey
yesterday
add a comment |
EXAMPLE: If you paid $2,000 in interest in a year and you can demonstrate that you received $5,000 salary in a year, you would be able to say to show on your form this information and they will tax you only for the $3,000 difference.
FOR YOU: You apparently earned no money in the tax-year, but paid $2,000 in interest the tax year. This will mean you are not taxed in 2018 for income. You will not get anything from it, but it's free, easy, and very important to show: When you fill out your form and I strongly encourage you to do so, first check that you're not a dependent already, then file showing that you made no money, but you paid interest on student loans.
The reason for filing, even though you won't receive anything is that you may be interested in buying a home or something and they'll ask for your last two tax filings, etc. and you will show you did due diligence.
Bonus: if by some miracle they decide to give us a bit of relief for our outrageous student loans you can show documentation that you did everything right and by the book.
EXAMPLE: If you paid $2,000 in interest in a year and you can demonstrate that you received $5,000 salary in a year, you would be able to say to show on your form this information and they will tax you only for the $3,000 difference.
FOR YOU: You apparently earned no money in the tax-year, but paid $2,000 in interest the tax year. This will mean you are not taxed in 2018 for income. You will not get anything from it, but it's free, easy, and very important to show: When you fill out your form and I strongly encourage you to do so, first check that you're not a dependent already, then file showing that you made no money, but you paid interest on student loans.
The reason for filing, even though you won't receive anything is that you may be interested in buying a home or something and they'll ask for your last two tax filings, etc. and you will show you did due diligence.
Bonus: if by some miracle they decide to give us a bit of relief for our outrageous student loans you can show documentation that you did everything right and by the book.
answered 2 days ago
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I have an outrageous mortgage, where's my relief?
– Glen Yates
2 days ago
@GlenYates - you own property.
– Mikey
yesterday
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I have an outrageous mortgage, where's my relief?
– Glen Yates
2 days ago
@GlenYates - you own property.
– Mikey
yesterday
I have an outrageous mortgage, where's my relief?
– Glen Yates
2 days ago
I have an outrageous mortgage, where's my relief?
– Glen Yates
2 days ago
@GlenYates - you own property.
– Mikey
yesterday
@GlenYates - you own property.
– Mikey
yesterday
add a comment |
You are not required to file a return because your income is less than the filing threshold. The IRS has a site here to check that. I did my best to guess answers, even assuming that you were able to be claimed as a dependent by someone else, and it said you did not have to file. If you do file, you will have zero liability. As others have said, you might want to file so you have a return to show people in the future. You are allowed to file for three years, so if you don't file now and it becomes an issue you can file then. You would also want to file if you had a refund coming, either because you had tax withheld (you didn't) or you had a refundable education credit coming.
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You are not required to file a return because your income is less than the filing threshold. The IRS has a site here to check that. I did my best to guess answers, even assuming that you were able to be claimed as a dependent by someone else, and it said you did not have to file. If you do file, you will have zero liability. As others have said, you might want to file so you have a return to show people in the future. You are allowed to file for three years, so if you don't file now and it becomes an issue you can file then. You would also want to file if you had a refund coming, either because you had tax withheld (you didn't) or you had a refundable education credit coming.
add a comment |
You are not required to file a return because your income is less than the filing threshold. The IRS has a site here to check that. I did my best to guess answers, even assuming that you were able to be claimed as a dependent by someone else, and it said you did not have to file. If you do file, you will have zero liability. As others have said, you might want to file so you have a return to show people in the future. You are allowed to file for three years, so if you don't file now and it becomes an issue you can file then. You would also want to file if you had a refund coming, either because you had tax withheld (you didn't) or you had a refundable education credit coming.
You are not required to file a return because your income is less than the filing threshold. The IRS has a site here to check that. I did my best to guess answers, even assuming that you were able to be claimed as a dependent by someone else, and it said you did not have to file. If you do file, you will have zero liability. As others have said, you might want to file so you have a return to show people in the future. You are allowed to file for three years, so if you don't file now and it becomes an issue you can file then. You would also want to file if you had a refund coming, either because you had tax withheld (you didn't) or you had a refundable education credit coming.
answered 2 days ago
Ross MillikanRoss Millikan
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Just to clarify, will your parents claim you as a dependent?
– Nosjack
2 days ago
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"Should I file" and "Will I get a refund" are two different questions. Simple filings are free and simple to do. No downside, free, and simple things should generally be done.
– corsiKa
2 days ago