Is “ein Herz wie das meine” an antiquated or colloquial use of the possesive pronoun? Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)When to use which pronoun declination: mein, meiner, meine, meins, etcThe difference between “mein” and “meine”When are article + possessive pronoun constructions like “Der meine ist gut” used?Do I need to repeat the possessive pronoun for a second substantive?
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Is “ein Herz wie das meine” an antiquated or colloquial use of the possesive pronoun?
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Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)When to use which pronoun declination: mein, meiner, meine, meins, etcThe difference between “mein” and “meine”When are article + possessive pronoun constructions like “Der meine ist gut” used?Do I need to repeat the possessive pronoun for a second substantive?
I am confused by the use of meine in this quote from Die Leiden des jungen Werther
Waren nicht meine übrigen Verbindungen recht ausgesucht vom Schicksal, um ein Herz wie das meine zu ängstigen?
I take ein Herz wie das meine to mean a heart such as mine.
If meine refers to Herz shouldn't it be in the accusative neuter?
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I am confused by the use of meine in this quote from Die Leiden des jungen Werther
Waren nicht meine übrigen Verbindungen recht ausgesucht vom Schicksal, um ein Herz wie das meine zu ängstigen?
I take ein Herz wie das meine to mean a heart such as mine.
If meine refers to Herz shouldn't it be in the accusative neuter?
ein Herz wie das meinem
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wie das meinemis neither accusative nor right, it is a mix with dative and wrong. I cannot find any "sounds odd/old/wrong" on your quote from Goethe. just the entire way of speaking in this book is a bit "gestelzt".
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I am confused by the use of meine in this quote from Die Leiden des jungen Werther
Waren nicht meine übrigen Verbindungen recht ausgesucht vom Schicksal, um ein Herz wie das meine zu ängstigen?
I take ein Herz wie das meine to mean a heart such as mine.
If meine refers to Herz shouldn't it be in the accusative neuter?
ein Herz wie das meinem
possessive-pronouns
edited 2 hours ago
sgf
1,688422
asked 8 hours ago
Austin ConderAustin Conder
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I am confused by the use of meine in this quote from Die Leiden des jungen Werther
Waren nicht meine übrigen Verbindungen recht ausgesucht vom Schicksal, um ein Herz wie das meine zu ängstigen?
I take ein Herz wie das meine to mean a heart such as mine.
If meine refers to Herz shouldn't it be in the accusative neuter?
ein Herz wie das meinem
possessive-pronouns
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Austin ConderAustin Conder
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wie das meinemis neither accusative nor right, it is a mix with dative and wrong. I cannot find any "sounds odd/old/wrong" on your quote from Goethe. just the entire way of speaking in this book is a bit "gestelzt".
– Shegit Brahm
7 hours ago
add a comment |
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wie das meinemis neither accusative nor right, it is a mix with dative and wrong. I cannot find any "sounds odd/old/wrong" on your quote from Goethe. just the entire way of speaking in this book is a bit "gestelzt".
– Shegit Brahm
7 hours ago
1
1
wie das meinem is neither accusative nor right, it is a mix with dative and wrong. I cannot find any "sounds odd/old/wrong" on your quote from Goethe. just the entire way of speaking in this book is a bit "gestelzt".– Shegit Brahm
7 hours ago
wie das meinem is neither accusative nor right, it is a mix with dative and wrong. I cannot find any "sounds odd/old/wrong" on your quote from Goethe. just the entire way of speaking in this book is a bit "gestelzt".– Shegit Brahm
7 hours ago
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No. It's perfectly right. You are also right supposing that the case is accusative and the gender neuter. You are wrong, however, using meinem (is dative).
In the Wiktionary
table, cf. Nicht-attributiv, mit Artikel, you'll find agreement with Goethe's text. It's probably another register (gehoben) but definitely not wrong (nor unusual, nor colloquial).
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In your example, meine is a possessive adjective with a regular weak ending -e (just as in das kranke Herz). The more modern form would be
ein Herz wie meins
with a neuter possessive pronoun (ending -s). Personally, I do find the combination of definite article and possessive adjective old-fashioned. Note that these adjectives can have -ig appended to them.
daß grade Athen der Ort war wo ein Geist wie der seinige sich aufs herrlichste entwickelt mußte (Quelle)
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No. It's perfectly right. You are also right supposing that the case is accusative and the gender neuter. You are wrong, however, using meinem (is dative).
In the Wiktionary table, cf. Nicht-attributiv, mit Artikel, you'll find agreement with Goethe's text. It's probably another register (gehoben) but definitely not wrong (nor unusual, nor colloquial).
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No. It's perfectly right. You are also right supposing that the case is accusative and the gender neuter. You are wrong, however, using meinem (is dative).
In the Wiktionary table, cf. Nicht-attributiv, mit Artikel, you'll find agreement with Goethe's text. It's probably another register (gehoben) but definitely not wrong (nor unusual, nor colloquial).
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No. It's perfectly right. You are also right supposing that the case is accusative and the gender neuter. You are wrong, however, using meinem (is dative).
In the Wiktionary table, cf. Nicht-attributiv, mit Artikel, you'll find agreement with Goethe's text. It's probably another register (gehoben) but definitely not wrong (nor unusual, nor colloquial).
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No. It's perfectly right. You are also right supposing that the case is accusative and the gender neuter. You are wrong, however, using meinem (is dative).
In the Wiktionary table, cf. Nicht-attributiv, mit Artikel, you'll find agreement with Goethe's text. It's probably another register (gehoben) but definitely not wrong (nor unusual, nor colloquial).
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In your example, meine is a possessive adjective with a regular weak ending -e (just as in das kranke Herz). The more modern form would be
ein Herz wie meins
with a neuter possessive pronoun (ending -s). Personally, I do find the combination of definite article and possessive adjective old-fashioned. Note that these adjectives can have -ig appended to them.
daß grade Athen der Ort war wo ein Geist wie der seinige sich aufs herrlichste entwickelt mußte (Quelle)
answered 1 hour ago
David VogtDavid Vogt
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In your example, meine is a possessive adjective with a regular weak ending -e (just as in das kranke Herz). The more modern form would be
ein Herz wie meins
with a neuter possessive pronoun (ending -s). Personally, I do find the combination of definite article and possessive adjective old-fashioned. Note that these adjectives can have -ig appended to them.
daß grade Athen der Ort war wo ein Geist wie der seinige sich aufs herrlichste entwickelt mußte (Quelle)
answered 1 hour ago
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In your example, meine is a possessive adjective with a regular weak ending -e (just as in das kranke Herz). The more modern form would be
ein Herz wie meins
with a neuter possessive pronoun (ending -s). Personally, I do find the combination of definite article and possessive adjective old-fashioned. Note that these adjectives can have -ig appended to them.
daß grade Athen der Ort war wo ein Geist wie der seinige sich aufs herrlichste entwickelt mußte (Quelle)
answered 1 hour ago
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In your example, meine is a possessive adjective with a regular weak ending -e (just as in das kranke Herz). The more modern form would be
ein Herz wie meins
with a neuter possessive pronoun (ending -s). Personally, I do find the combination of definite article and possessive adjective old-fashioned. Note that these adjectives can have -ig appended to them.
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wie das meinemis neither accusative nor right, it is a mix with dative and wrong. I cannot find any "sounds odd/old/wrong" on your quote from Goethe. just the entire way of speaking in this book is a bit "gestelzt".– Shegit Brahm
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