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Find group elements of $SL(2,3)$
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I am starting to learn about group theory so I am still really new in this field. So, I have the group $SL(2,3)$ with the two generators
$$
h = begin{pmatrix}
0 & a \
-(1/a) & 0
end{pmatrix}$$
and
$$ r = e^{itheta}/sqrt{ 2} begin{pmatrix}
e^{iphi} & e^{ipsi m} \
-e^{-ipsi m} & e^{-iphi}
end{pmatrix}$$
where $a$ and $m$ are reals. I need to find all 24 elements of the group, but I do not have a clear idea how to do it. I know that I have to find all possible multiplications, but I do not see how to obtain 24 different matrices. Is there a recipe to obtain these elements and to understand this problem better? Thanks in advance.
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I am starting to learn about group theory so I am still really new in this field. So, I have the group $SL(2,3)$ with the two generators
$$
h = begin{pmatrix}
0 & a \
-(1/a) & 0
end{pmatrix}$$
and
$$ r = e^{itheta}/sqrt{ 2} begin{pmatrix}
e^{iphi} & e^{ipsi m} \
-e^{-ipsi m} & e^{-iphi}
end{pmatrix}$$
where $a$ and $m$ are reals. I need to find all 24 elements of the group, but I do not have a clear idea how to do it. I know that I have to find all possible multiplications, but I do not see how to obtain 24 different matrices. Is there a recipe to obtain these elements and to understand this problem better? Thanks in advance.
group-theory finite-groups linear-groups
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Do you know anything about the constants $a,b,c,d,e,f$? For some choices of values the two matrices won't even be in the group $SL_2(Bbb{F}_3)$. For some other choices they will be there, but won¨t generate the whole group. So I suspect that you have left out something essential. Possibly accidentally. Anyway, in its present form the question doesn't seem to be answerable.
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– Jyrki Lahtonen
2 days ago
1
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Do you have available, e.g., a matrix description of $SL(2, 3)$?
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– Travis
2 days ago
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Thanks for the answer, I already put the form of the matrices, I now for the fact that they form the total group, but I do not know how to multiply the matrices to generate the 24 elements.
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– mors
2 days ago
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$begingroup$
I am starting to learn about group theory so I am still really new in this field. So, I have the group $SL(2,3)$ with the two generators
$$
h = begin{pmatrix}
0 & a \
-(1/a) & 0
end{pmatrix}$$
and
$$ r = e^{itheta}/sqrt{ 2} begin{pmatrix}
e^{iphi} & e^{ipsi m} \
-e^{-ipsi m} & e^{-iphi}
end{pmatrix}$$
where $a$ and $m$ are reals. I need to find all 24 elements of the group, but I do not have a clear idea how to do it. I know that I have to find all possible multiplications, but I do not see how to obtain 24 different matrices. Is there a recipe to obtain these elements and to understand this problem better? Thanks in advance.
group-theory finite-groups linear-groups
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I am starting to learn about group theory so I am still really new in this field. So, I have the group $SL(2,3)$ with the two generators
$$
h = begin{pmatrix}
0 & a \
-(1/a) & 0
end{pmatrix}$$
and
$$ r = e^{itheta}/sqrt{ 2} begin{pmatrix}
e^{iphi} & e^{ipsi m} \
-e^{-ipsi m} & e^{-iphi}
end{pmatrix}$$
where $a$ and $m$ are reals. I need to find all 24 elements of the group, but I do not have a clear idea how to do it. I know that I have to find all possible multiplications, but I do not see how to obtain 24 different matrices. Is there a recipe to obtain these elements and to understand this problem better? Thanks in advance.
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Do you know anything about the constants $a,b,c,d,e,f$? For some choices of values the two matrices won't even be in the group $SL_2(Bbb{F}_3)$. For some other choices they will be there, but won¨t generate the whole group. So I suspect that you have left out something essential. Possibly accidentally. Anyway, in its present form the question doesn't seem to be answerable.
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– Jyrki Lahtonen
2 days ago
1
$begingroup$
Do you have available, e.g., a matrix description of $SL(2, 3)$?
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– Travis
2 days ago
$begingroup$
Thanks for the answer, I already put the form of the matrices, I now for the fact that they form the total group, but I do not know how to multiply the matrices to generate the 24 elements.
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– mors
2 days ago
add a comment |
2
$begingroup$
Do you know anything about the constants $a,b,c,d,e,f$? For some choices of values the two matrices won't even be in the group $SL_2(Bbb{F}_3)$. For some other choices they will be there, but won¨t generate the whole group. So I suspect that you have left out something essential. Possibly accidentally. Anyway, in its present form the question doesn't seem to be answerable.
$endgroup$
– Jyrki Lahtonen
2 days ago
1
$begingroup$
Do you have available, e.g., a matrix description of $SL(2, 3)$?
$endgroup$
– Travis
2 days ago
$begingroup$
Thanks for the answer, I already put the form of the matrices, I now for the fact that they form the total group, but I do not know how to multiply the matrices to generate the 24 elements.
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– mors
2 days ago
2
2
$begingroup$
Do you know anything about the constants $a,b,c,d,e,f$? For some choices of values the two matrices won't even be in the group $SL_2(Bbb{F}_3)$. For some other choices they will be there, but won¨t generate the whole group. So I suspect that you have left out something essential. Possibly accidentally. Anyway, in its present form the question doesn't seem to be answerable.
$endgroup$
– Jyrki Lahtonen
2 days ago
$begingroup$
Do you know anything about the constants $a,b,c,d,e,f$? For some choices of values the two matrices won't even be in the group $SL_2(Bbb{F}_3)$. For some other choices they will be there, but won¨t generate the whole group. So I suspect that you have left out something essential. Possibly accidentally. Anyway, in its present form the question doesn't seem to be answerable.
$endgroup$
– Jyrki Lahtonen
2 days ago
1
1
$begingroup$
Do you have available, e.g., a matrix description of $SL(2, 3)$?
$endgroup$
– Travis
2 days ago
$begingroup$
Do you have available, e.g., a matrix description of $SL(2, 3)$?
$endgroup$
– Travis
2 days ago
$begingroup$
Thanks for the answer, I already put the form of the matrices, I now for the fact that they form the total group, but I do not know how to multiply the matrices to generate the 24 elements.
$endgroup$
– mors
2 days ago
$begingroup$
Thanks for the answer, I already put the form of the matrices, I now for the fact that they form the total group, but I do not know how to multiply the matrices to generate the 24 elements.
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– mors
2 days ago
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Do you know anything about the constants $a,b,c,d,e,f$? For some choices of values the two matrices won't even be in the group $SL_2(Bbb{F}_3)$. For some other choices they will be there, but won¨t generate the whole group. So I suspect that you have left out something essential. Possibly accidentally. Anyway, in its present form the question doesn't seem to be answerable.
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– Jyrki Lahtonen
2 days ago
1
$begingroup$
Do you have available, e.g., a matrix description of $SL(2, 3)$?
$endgroup$
– Travis
2 days ago
$begingroup$
Thanks for the answer, I already put the form of the matrices, I now for the fact that they form the total group, but I do not know how to multiply the matrices to generate the 24 elements.
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– mors
2 days ago