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Find group elements of $SL(2,3)$


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I am starting to learn about group theory so I am still really new in this field. So, I have the group $SL(2,3)$ with the two generators



$$
h = begin{pmatrix}
0 & a \
-(1/a) & 0
end{pmatrix}$$



and
$$ r = e^{itheta}/sqrt{ 2} begin{pmatrix}
e^{iphi} & e^{ipsi m} \
-e^{-ipsi m} & e^{-iphi}
end{pmatrix}$$



where $a$ and $m$ are reals. I need to find all 24 elements of the group, but I do not have a clear idea how to do it. I know that I have to find all possible multiplications, but I do not see how to obtain 24 different matrices. Is there a recipe to obtain these elements and to understand this problem better? Thanks in advance.










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    Do you know anything about the constants $a,b,c,d,e,f$? For some choices of values the two matrices won't even be in the group $SL_2(Bbb{F}_3)$. For some other choices they will be there, but won¨t generate the whole group. So I suspect that you have left out something essential. Possibly accidentally. Anyway, in its present form the question doesn't seem to be answerable.
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    – Jyrki Lahtonen
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    Do you have available, e.g., a matrix description of $SL(2, 3)$?
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  • $begingroup$
    Thanks for the answer, I already put the form of the matrices, I now for the fact that they form the total group, but I do not know how to multiply the matrices to generate the 24 elements.
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    2 days ago
















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$begingroup$


I am starting to learn about group theory so I am still really new in this field. So, I have the group $SL(2,3)$ with the two generators



$$
h = begin{pmatrix}
0 & a \
-(1/a) & 0
end{pmatrix}$$



and
$$ r = e^{itheta}/sqrt{ 2} begin{pmatrix}
e^{iphi} & e^{ipsi m} \
-e^{-ipsi m} & e^{-iphi}
end{pmatrix}$$



where $a$ and $m$ are reals. I need to find all 24 elements of the group, but I do not have a clear idea how to do it. I know that I have to find all possible multiplications, but I do not see how to obtain 24 different matrices. Is there a recipe to obtain these elements and to understand this problem better? Thanks in advance.










share|cite|improve this question











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  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Do you know anything about the constants $a,b,c,d,e,f$? For some choices of values the two matrices won't even be in the group $SL_2(Bbb{F}_3)$. For some other choices they will be there, but won¨t generate the whole group. So I suspect that you have left out something essential. Possibly accidentally. Anyway, in its present form the question doesn't seem to be answerable.
    $endgroup$
    – Jyrki Lahtonen
    2 days ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Do you have available, e.g., a matrix description of $SL(2, 3)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Travis
    2 days ago










  • $begingroup$
    Thanks for the answer, I already put the form of the matrices, I now for the fact that they form the total group, but I do not know how to multiply the matrices to generate the 24 elements.
    $endgroup$
    – mors
    2 days ago














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$begingroup$


I am starting to learn about group theory so I am still really new in this field. So, I have the group $SL(2,3)$ with the two generators



$$
h = begin{pmatrix}
0 & a \
-(1/a) & 0
end{pmatrix}$$



and
$$ r = e^{itheta}/sqrt{ 2} begin{pmatrix}
e^{iphi} & e^{ipsi m} \
-e^{-ipsi m} & e^{-iphi}
end{pmatrix}$$



where $a$ and $m$ are reals. I need to find all 24 elements of the group, but I do not have a clear idea how to do it. I know that I have to find all possible multiplications, but I do not see how to obtain 24 different matrices. Is there a recipe to obtain these elements and to understand this problem better? Thanks in advance.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$




I am starting to learn about group theory so I am still really new in this field. So, I have the group $SL(2,3)$ with the two generators



$$
h = begin{pmatrix}
0 & a \
-(1/a) & 0
end{pmatrix}$$



and
$$ r = e^{itheta}/sqrt{ 2} begin{pmatrix}
e^{iphi} & e^{ipsi m} \
-e^{-ipsi m} & e^{-iphi}
end{pmatrix}$$



where $a$ and $m$ are reals. I need to find all 24 elements of the group, but I do not have a clear idea how to do it. I know that I have to find all possible multiplications, but I do not see how to obtain 24 different matrices. Is there a recipe to obtain these elements and to understand this problem better? Thanks in advance.







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  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Do you know anything about the constants $a,b,c,d,e,f$? For some choices of values the two matrices won't even be in the group $SL_2(Bbb{F}_3)$. For some other choices they will be there, but won¨t generate the whole group. So I suspect that you have left out something essential. Possibly accidentally. Anyway, in its present form the question doesn't seem to be answerable.
    $endgroup$
    – Jyrki Lahtonen
    2 days ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Do you have available, e.g., a matrix description of $SL(2, 3)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Travis
    2 days ago










  • $begingroup$
    Thanks for the answer, I already put the form of the matrices, I now for the fact that they form the total group, but I do not know how to multiply the matrices to generate the 24 elements.
    $endgroup$
    – mors
    2 days ago














  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Do you know anything about the constants $a,b,c,d,e,f$? For some choices of values the two matrices won't even be in the group $SL_2(Bbb{F}_3)$. For some other choices they will be there, but won¨t generate the whole group. So I suspect that you have left out something essential. Possibly accidentally. Anyway, in its present form the question doesn't seem to be answerable.
    $endgroup$
    – Jyrki Lahtonen
    2 days ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Do you have available, e.g., a matrix description of $SL(2, 3)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Travis
    2 days ago










  • $begingroup$
    Thanks for the answer, I already put the form of the matrices, I now for the fact that they form the total group, but I do not know how to multiply the matrices to generate the 24 elements.
    $endgroup$
    – mors
    2 days ago








2




2




$begingroup$
Do you know anything about the constants $a,b,c,d,e,f$? For some choices of values the two matrices won't even be in the group $SL_2(Bbb{F}_3)$. For some other choices they will be there, but won¨t generate the whole group. So I suspect that you have left out something essential. Possibly accidentally. Anyway, in its present form the question doesn't seem to be answerable.
$endgroup$
– Jyrki Lahtonen
2 days ago




$begingroup$
Do you know anything about the constants $a,b,c,d,e,f$? For some choices of values the two matrices won't even be in the group $SL_2(Bbb{F}_3)$. For some other choices they will be there, but won¨t generate the whole group. So I suspect that you have left out something essential. Possibly accidentally. Anyway, in its present form the question doesn't seem to be answerable.
$endgroup$
– Jyrki Lahtonen
2 days ago




1




1




$begingroup$
Do you have available, e.g., a matrix description of $SL(2, 3)$?
$endgroup$
– Travis
2 days ago




$begingroup$
Do you have available, e.g., a matrix description of $SL(2, 3)$?
$endgroup$
– Travis
2 days ago












$begingroup$
Thanks for the answer, I already put the form of the matrices, I now for the fact that they form the total group, but I do not know how to multiply the matrices to generate the 24 elements.
$endgroup$
– mors
2 days ago




$begingroup$
Thanks for the answer, I already put the form of the matrices, I now for the fact that they form the total group, but I do not know how to multiply the matrices to generate the 24 elements.
$endgroup$
– mors
2 days ago










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