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I understand how direct sums work and how they can be useful in proving certain conditional statements in linear algebra but it seems to me that direct sums are only useful in abstract settings. I was wondering if there are any real world applications for direct sums and if so, is there anywhere where I can read more about those applications since I was having trouble finding any.
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I understand how direct sums work and how they can be useful in proving certain conditional statements in linear algebra but it seems to me that direct sums are only useful in abstract settings. I was wondering if there are any real world applications for direct sums and if so, is there anywhere where I can read more about those applications since I was having trouble finding any.
linear-algebra applications direct-sum
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It would be impossible to construct any simple example of 2D or higher dimensional vector space without direct sum. Is this a good enough (purely mathematical) reason to consider direct sum?
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– edm
2 days ago
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hmmm... I didn't consider that. So then creating a 4d puzzle game like Miegakure (miegakure.com/) would be impossible without use of direct sums. That's cool!
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– Gabriel Chavez
2 days ago
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I mean, $Bbb R^2$ is constructed as $Bbb RoplusBbb R$, $Bbb R^3$ is constructed as $Bbb RoplusBbb RoplusBbb R$, and so on. It is not like higher dimensions are not possible, but is that we could not demonstrate their existence if we restrict the tools we use. And by the tools, I mean direct sum.
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– edm
2 days ago
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I see. thanks for the clarification.
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– Gabriel Chavez
2 days ago
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How about block matrices? A 2x2 block matrix represents an operator $A: V_1 oplus V_2 to W_1 oplus W_2$, with each block representing some component $A_{ij}: V_j to W_i$. Any time you see a block matrix, there is a direct sum behind the scenes.
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2 days ago
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I understand how direct sums work and how they can be useful in proving certain conditional statements in linear algebra but it seems to me that direct sums are only useful in abstract settings. I was wondering if there are any real world applications for direct sums and if so, is there anywhere where I can read more about those applications since I was having trouble finding any.
linear-algebra applications direct-sum
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I understand how direct sums work and how they can be useful in proving certain conditional statements in linear algebra but it seems to me that direct sums are only useful in abstract settings. I was wondering if there are any real world applications for direct sums and if so, is there anywhere where I can read more about those applications since I was having trouble finding any.
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It would be impossible to construct any simple example of 2D or higher dimensional vector space without direct sum. Is this a good enough (purely mathematical) reason to consider direct sum?
$endgroup$
– edm
2 days ago
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hmmm... I didn't consider that. So then creating a 4d puzzle game like Miegakure (miegakure.com/) would be impossible without use of direct sums. That's cool!
$endgroup$
– Gabriel Chavez
2 days ago
$begingroup$
I mean, $Bbb R^2$ is constructed as $Bbb RoplusBbb R$, $Bbb R^3$ is constructed as $Bbb RoplusBbb RoplusBbb R$, and so on. It is not like higher dimensions are not possible, but is that we could not demonstrate their existence if we restrict the tools we use. And by the tools, I mean direct sum.
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– edm
2 days ago
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I see. thanks for the clarification.
$endgroup$
– Gabriel Chavez
2 days ago
$begingroup$
How about block matrices? A 2x2 block matrix represents an operator $A: V_1 oplus V_2 to W_1 oplus W_2$, with each block representing some component $A_{ij}: V_j to W_i$. Any time you see a block matrix, there is a direct sum behind the scenes.
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– Joppy
2 days ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
It would be impossible to construct any simple example of 2D or higher dimensional vector space without direct sum. Is this a good enough (purely mathematical) reason to consider direct sum?
$endgroup$
– edm
2 days ago
$begingroup$
hmmm... I didn't consider that. So then creating a 4d puzzle game like Miegakure (miegakure.com/) would be impossible without use of direct sums. That's cool!
$endgroup$
– Gabriel Chavez
2 days ago
$begingroup$
I mean, $Bbb R^2$ is constructed as $Bbb RoplusBbb R$, $Bbb R^3$ is constructed as $Bbb RoplusBbb RoplusBbb R$, and so on. It is not like higher dimensions are not possible, but is that we could not demonstrate their existence if we restrict the tools we use. And by the tools, I mean direct sum.
$endgroup$
– edm
2 days ago
$begingroup$
I see. thanks for the clarification.
$endgroup$
– Gabriel Chavez
2 days ago
$begingroup$
How about block matrices? A 2x2 block matrix represents an operator $A: V_1 oplus V_2 to W_1 oplus W_2$, with each block representing some component $A_{ij}: V_j to W_i$. Any time you see a block matrix, there is a direct sum behind the scenes.
$endgroup$
– Joppy
2 days ago
$begingroup$
It would be impossible to construct any simple example of 2D or higher dimensional vector space without direct sum. Is this a good enough (purely mathematical) reason to consider direct sum?
$endgroup$
– edm
2 days ago
$begingroup$
It would be impossible to construct any simple example of 2D or higher dimensional vector space without direct sum. Is this a good enough (purely mathematical) reason to consider direct sum?
$endgroup$
– edm
2 days ago
$begingroup$
hmmm... I didn't consider that. So then creating a 4d puzzle game like Miegakure (miegakure.com/) would be impossible without use of direct sums. That's cool!
$endgroup$
– Gabriel Chavez
2 days ago
$begingroup$
hmmm... I didn't consider that. So then creating a 4d puzzle game like Miegakure (miegakure.com/) would be impossible without use of direct sums. That's cool!
$endgroup$
– Gabriel Chavez
2 days ago
$begingroup$
I mean, $Bbb R^2$ is constructed as $Bbb RoplusBbb R$, $Bbb R^3$ is constructed as $Bbb RoplusBbb RoplusBbb R$, and so on. It is not like higher dimensions are not possible, but is that we could not demonstrate their existence if we restrict the tools we use. And by the tools, I mean direct sum.
$endgroup$
– edm
2 days ago
$begingroup$
I mean, $Bbb R^2$ is constructed as $Bbb RoplusBbb R$, $Bbb R^3$ is constructed as $Bbb RoplusBbb RoplusBbb R$, and so on. It is not like higher dimensions are not possible, but is that we could not demonstrate their existence if we restrict the tools we use. And by the tools, I mean direct sum.
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– edm
2 days ago
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I see. thanks for the clarification.
$endgroup$
– Gabriel Chavez
2 days ago
$begingroup$
I see. thanks for the clarification.
$endgroup$
– Gabriel Chavez
2 days ago
$begingroup$
How about block matrices? A 2x2 block matrix represents an operator $A: V_1 oplus V_2 to W_1 oplus W_2$, with each block representing some component $A_{ij}: V_j to W_i$. Any time you see a block matrix, there is a direct sum behind the scenes.
$endgroup$
– Joppy
2 days ago
$begingroup$
How about block matrices? A 2x2 block matrix represents an operator $A: V_1 oplus V_2 to W_1 oplus W_2$, with each block representing some component $A_{ij}: V_j to W_i$. Any time you see a block matrix, there is a direct sum behind the scenes.
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2 days ago
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It would be impossible to construct any simple example of 2D or higher dimensional vector space without direct sum. Is this a good enough (purely mathematical) reason to consider direct sum?
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– edm
2 days ago
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hmmm... I didn't consider that. So then creating a 4d puzzle game like Miegakure (miegakure.com/) would be impossible without use of direct sums. That's cool!
$endgroup$
– Gabriel Chavez
2 days ago
$begingroup$
I mean, $Bbb R^2$ is constructed as $Bbb RoplusBbb R$, $Bbb R^3$ is constructed as $Bbb RoplusBbb RoplusBbb R$, and so on. It is not like higher dimensions are not possible, but is that we could not demonstrate their existence if we restrict the tools we use. And by the tools, I mean direct sum.
$endgroup$
– edm
2 days ago
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I see. thanks for the clarification.
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– Gabriel Chavez
2 days ago
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How about block matrices? A 2x2 block matrix represents an operator $A: V_1 oplus V_2 to W_1 oplus W_2$, with each block representing some component $A_{ij}: V_j to W_i$. Any time you see a block matrix, there is a direct sum behind the scenes.
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– Joppy
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