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PDE : $x^2 z_x + y^2 z_y = z(x+y)$
First order quasi-linear PDE $zz_x+z_y=1$Solving for PDE $z=z(x,y)$ and explain the need to consider separate segments of initial curveSolving : $x^2 z_x + y^2 z_y = 2xy$I.V.P. : $ x^2 z_x + y^2 z_y = z^2 ; ; ; z=1 $ on the initial curve $C : y=2x $IVP $x(y-z) z_x + y(z-x) z_y = z(x-y) ; ; ; z=t $ over the initial Curve : $C : x=t, y = 2t/(t^2-1) ; 0 < t < 1$Existence and uniqueness of PDE IVP : $z z_x + y z_y = x$, $C : x=t, y=t ; ; ; t >0$Existence and uniqueness of PDE IVP : $z z_x + y z_y = x$, $C : x=t, y=t ; ; ; t >0$ and $z=t$ over $C$.Solving the problem : $z z_x + z_y = 0, quad z(x,0) = x^2$PDE IVP : $zz_x + z_y = 0, ; ; z(x,0) = -3x$
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Solving the PDE $$x^2 z_x + y^2 z_y = z(x+y)$$
I came across an error in my calculations which I cannot find :
$$frac{mathrm{d}x}{x^2}=frac{mathrm{d}y}{y^2}=frac{mathrm{d}z}{z(x+y)}$$
The first integral curve is given as :
$$frac{mathrm{d}x}{x^2}=frac{mathrm{d}y}{y^2}implies z_1 = frac{1}{x} - frac{1}{y}$$
Now, for the second integral curve, I use the following differential subtraction trick to get rid of the $(x+y)$ term :
$$frac{mathrm{d}x-mathrm{d}y}{x^2-y^2}=frac{mathrm{d}z}{z(x+y)}$$
$$Rightarrow$$
$$frac{mathrm{d}(x-y)}{x-y} = frac{mathrm{d}z}{z}$$
$$implies$$
$$z_2 = frac{z}{x-y}$$
And thus the general solution is :
$$z_2=F(z_1)Rightarrow z(x,y)=(x-y)Fbigg(frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{y}bigg)$$
where $F$ is a $C^1$ function of $x$ and $y$.
Wolfram Alpha though, states that the solution is $z(x,y)=xyF(1/x-1/y$), which means that I have found the integral curve $z_2$ wrong. I cannot find any fault in my calculations though. The correct integral curve should be :
$$z_2 = frac{z}{xy}$$
How would one come to this calculation though ?
I would really appreciate your help
integration ordinary-differential-equations multivariable-calculus pde
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Solving the PDE $$x^2 z_x + y^2 z_y = z(x+y)$$
I came across an error in my calculations which I cannot find :
$$frac{mathrm{d}x}{x^2}=frac{mathrm{d}y}{y^2}=frac{mathrm{d}z}{z(x+y)}$$
The first integral curve is given as :
$$frac{mathrm{d}x}{x^2}=frac{mathrm{d}y}{y^2}implies z_1 = frac{1}{x} - frac{1}{y}$$
Now, for the second integral curve, I use the following differential subtraction trick to get rid of the $(x+y)$ term :
$$frac{mathrm{d}x-mathrm{d}y}{x^2-y^2}=frac{mathrm{d}z}{z(x+y)}$$
$$Rightarrow$$
$$frac{mathrm{d}(x-y)}{x-y} = frac{mathrm{d}z}{z}$$
$$implies$$
$$z_2 = frac{z}{x-y}$$
And thus the general solution is :
$$z_2=F(z_1)Rightarrow z(x,y)=(x-y)Fbigg(frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{y}bigg)$$
where $F$ is a $C^1$ function of $x$ and $y$.
Wolfram Alpha though, states that the solution is $z(x,y)=xyF(1/x-1/y$), which means that I have found the integral curve $z_2$ wrong. I cannot find any fault in my calculations though. The correct integral curve should be :
$$z_2 = frac{z}{xy}$$
How would one come to this calculation though ?
I would really appreciate your help
integration ordinary-differential-equations multivariable-calculus pde
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Solving the PDE $$x^2 z_x + y^2 z_y = z(x+y)$$
I came across an error in my calculations which I cannot find :
$$frac{mathrm{d}x}{x^2}=frac{mathrm{d}y}{y^2}=frac{mathrm{d}z}{z(x+y)}$$
The first integral curve is given as :
$$frac{mathrm{d}x}{x^2}=frac{mathrm{d}y}{y^2}implies z_1 = frac{1}{x} - frac{1}{y}$$
Now, for the second integral curve, I use the following differential subtraction trick to get rid of the $(x+y)$ term :
$$frac{mathrm{d}x-mathrm{d}y}{x^2-y^2}=frac{mathrm{d}z}{z(x+y)}$$
$$Rightarrow$$
$$frac{mathrm{d}(x-y)}{x-y} = frac{mathrm{d}z}{z}$$
$$implies$$
$$z_2 = frac{z}{x-y}$$
And thus the general solution is :
$$z_2=F(z_1)Rightarrow z(x,y)=(x-y)Fbigg(frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{y}bigg)$$
where $F$ is a $C^1$ function of $x$ and $y$.
Wolfram Alpha though, states that the solution is $z(x,y)=xyF(1/x-1/y$), which means that I have found the integral curve $z_2$ wrong. I cannot find any fault in my calculations though. The correct integral curve should be :
$$z_2 = frac{z}{xy}$$
How would one come to this calculation though ?
I would really appreciate your help
integration ordinary-differential-equations multivariable-calculus pde
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Solving the PDE $$x^2 z_x + y^2 z_y = z(x+y)$$
I came across an error in my calculations which I cannot find :
$$frac{mathrm{d}x}{x^2}=frac{mathrm{d}y}{y^2}=frac{mathrm{d}z}{z(x+y)}$$
The first integral curve is given as :
$$frac{mathrm{d}x}{x^2}=frac{mathrm{d}y}{y^2}implies z_1 = frac{1}{x} - frac{1}{y}$$
Now, for the second integral curve, I use the following differential subtraction trick to get rid of the $(x+y)$ term :
$$frac{mathrm{d}x-mathrm{d}y}{x^2-y^2}=frac{mathrm{d}z}{z(x+y)}$$
$$Rightarrow$$
$$frac{mathrm{d}(x-y)}{x-y} = frac{mathrm{d}z}{z}$$
$$implies$$
$$z_2 = frac{z}{x-y}$$
And thus the general solution is :
$$z_2=F(z_1)Rightarrow z(x,y)=(x-y)Fbigg(frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{y}bigg)$$
where $F$ is a $C^1$ function of $x$ and $y$.
Wolfram Alpha though, states that the solution is $z(x,y)=xyF(1/x-1/y$), which means that I have found the integral curve $z_2$ wrong. I cannot find any fault in my calculations though. The correct integral curve should be :
$$z_2 = frac{z}{xy}$$
How would one come to this calculation though ?
I would really appreciate your help
integration ordinary-differential-equations multivariable-calculus pde
integration ordinary-differential-equations multivariable-calculus pde
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From
$$
frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{y}=C_1 Rightarrow y-x=C_1 x y
$$
From
$$
frac{dy-dx}{y-x}=frac{dz}{z}Rightarrow y-x = C_2 z
$$
hence
$$
C_2 z = C_1 x y Rightarrow C_4 = frac{z}{x y}
$$
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So essentially both solutions are correct ?
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– Rebellos
Jun 1 '18 at 11:14
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Yes. They are equivalent.
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Jun 1 '18 at 11:16
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Some algebra helps too:
$(x-y)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)=xyleft(dfrac{x-y}{xy}right)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)=xyleft(dfrac{1}{y}-dfrac{1}{x}right)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)=xyGleft(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}right)$
with $Gleft(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}right)=-left(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}right)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)$
So, they are essentialy the same.
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$$dt =frac{mathrm{d}x}{x^2}=frac{mathrm{d}y}{y^2}=frac{mathrm{d}z}{z(x+y)}$$
is equivalent to
$$ dt =frac{zy dx + zx dy - xy dz }{0 },$$
hence the numerator is constant, which only depends on $C_1 = frac{ 1}{x } - frac{ 1}{ y}. $
This implies by integrating each side
$$F(C_1) = zyx + zxy - xyz = zxy,$$
Thus,
$$z = frac{F(frac{ 1}{x } - frac{ 1}{ y}) }{ xy} .$$
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From
$$
frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{y}=C_1 Rightarrow y-x=C_1 x y
$$
From
$$
frac{dy-dx}{y-x}=frac{dz}{z}Rightarrow y-x = C_2 z
$$
hence
$$
C_2 z = C_1 x y Rightarrow C_4 = frac{z}{x y}
$$
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So essentially both solutions are correct ?
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– Rebellos
Jun 1 '18 at 11:14
2
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Yes. They are equivalent.
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– Cesareo
Jun 1 '18 at 11:16
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From
$$
frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{y}=C_1 Rightarrow y-x=C_1 x y
$$
From
$$
frac{dy-dx}{y-x}=frac{dz}{z}Rightarrow y-x = C_2 z
$$
hence
$$
C_2 z = C_1 x y Rightarrow C_4 = frac{z}{x y}
$$
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So essentially both solutions are correct ?
$endgroup$
– Rebellos
Jun 1 '18 at 11:14
2
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Yes. They are equivalent.
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– Cesareo
Jun 1 '18 at 11:16
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From
$$
frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{y}=C_1 Rightarrow y-x=C_1 x y
$$
From
$$
frac{dy-dx}{y-x}=frac{dz}{z}Rightarrow y-x = C_2 z
$$
hence
$$
C_2 z = C_1 x y Rightarrow C_4 = frac{z}{x y}
$$
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From
$$
frac{1}{x}-frac{1}{y}=C_1 Rightarrow y-x=C_1 x y
$$
From
$$
frac{dy-dx}{y-x}=frac{dz}{z}Rightarrow y-x = C_2 z
$$
hence
$$
C_2 z = C_1 x y Rightarrow C_4 = frac{z}{x y}
$$
answered Jun 1 '18 at 11:13
CesareoCesareo
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So essentially both solutions are correct ?
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– Rebellos
Jun 1 '18 at 11:14
2
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Yes. They are equivalent.
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– Cesareo
Jun 1 '18 at 11:16
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So essentially both solutions are correct ?
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– Rebellos
Jun 1 '18 at 11:14
2
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Yes. They are equivalent.
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– Cesareo
Jun 1 '18 at 11:16
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So essentially both solutions are correct ?
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– Rebellos
Jun 1 '18 at 11:14
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So essentially both solutions are correct ?
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– Rebellos
Jun 1 '18 at 11:14
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Yes. They are equivalent.
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– Cesareo
Jun 1 '18 at 11:16
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Yes. They are equivalent.
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– Cesareo
Jun 1 '18 at 11:16
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Some algebra helps too:
$(x-y)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)=xyleft(dfrac{x-y}{xy}right)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)=xyleft(dfrac{1}{y}-dfrac{1}{x}right)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)=xyGleft(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}right)$
with $Gleft(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}right)=-left(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}right)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)$
So, they are essentialy the same.
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Some algebra helps too:
$(x-y)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)=xyleft(dfrac{x-y}{xy}right)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)=xyleft(dfrac{1}{y}-dfrac{1}{x}right)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)=xyGleft(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}right)$
with $Gleft(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}right)=-left(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}right)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)$
So, they are essentialy the same.
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
Some algebra helps too:
$(x-y)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)=xyleft(dfrac{x-y}{xy}right)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)=xyleft(dfrac{1}{y}-dfrac{1}{x}right)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)=xyGleft(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}right)$
with $Gleft(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}right)=-left(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}right)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)$
So, they are essentialy the same.
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Some algebra helps too:
$(x-y)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)=xyleft(dfrac{x-y}{xy}right)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)=xyleft(dfrac{1}{y}-dfrac{1}{x}right)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)=xyGleft(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}right)$
with $Gleft(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}right)=-left(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}right)Fbigg(dfrac{1}{x}-dfrac{1}{y}bigg)$
So, they are essentialy the same.
edited Jun 2 '18 at 12:10
answered Jun 2 '18 at 12:05
Rafa BudríaRafa Budría
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$$dt =frac{mathrm{d}x}{x^2}=frac{mathrm{d}y}{y^2}=frac{mathrm{d}z}{z(x+y)}$$
is equivalent to
$$ dt =frac{zy dx + zx dy - xy dz }{0 },$$
hence the numerator is constant, which only depends on $C_1 = frac{ 1}{x } - frac{ 1}{ y}. $
This implies by integrating each side
$$F(C_1) = zyx + zxy - xyz = zxy,$$
Thus,
$$z = frac{F(frac{ 1}{x } - frac{ 1}{ y}) }{ xy} .$$
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$$dt =frac{mathrm{d}x}{x^2}=frac{mathrm{d}y}{y^2}=frac{mathrm{d}z}{z(x+y)}$$
is equivalent to
$$ dt =frac{zy dx + zx dy - xy dz }{0 },$$
hence the numerator is constant, which only depends on $C_1 = frac{ 1}{x } - frac{ 1}{ y}. $
This implies by integrating each side
$$F(C_1) = zyx + zxy - xyz = zxy,$$
Thus,
$$z = frac{F(frac{ 1}{x } - frac{ 1}{ y}) }{ xy} .$$
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$$dt =frac{mathrm{d}x}{x^2}=frac{mathrm{d}y}{y^2}=frac{mathrm{d}z}{z(x+y)}$$
is equivalent to
$$ dt =frac{zy dx + zx dy - xy dz }{0 },$$
hence the numerator is constant, which only depends on $C_1 = frac{ 1}{x } - frac{ 1}{ y}. $
This implies by integrating each side
$$F(C_1) = zyx + zxy - xyz = zxy,$$
Thus,
$$z = frac{F(frac{ 1}{x } - frac{ 1}{ y}) }{ xy} .$$
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$$dt =frac{mathrm{d}x}{x^2}=frac{mathrm{d}y}{y^2}=frac{mathrm{d}z}{z(x+y)}$$
is equivalent to
$$ dt =frac{zy dx + zx dy - xy dz }{0 },$$
hence the numerator is constant, which only depends on $C_1 = frac{ 1}{x } - frac{ 1}{ y}. $
This implies by integrating each side
$$F(C_1) = zyx + zxy - xyz = zxy,$$
Thus,
$$z = frac{F(frac{ 1}{x } - frac{ 1}{ y}) }{ xy} .$$
answered Mar 13 at 15:15
onurcanbektasonurcanbektas
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