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Are Warlocks Arcane or Divine?
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This question recently came up in one of my sessions. Are Warlocks considered Arcane or Divine? There is a magic item, Dark Shard Amulet that is for Warlocks and it requires an Arcana check to use.
However, the magic a warlock uses is granted from a patron. So, wouldn't the warlock be a divine caster like the Cleric or Paladin?
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This question recently came up in one of my sessions. Are Warlocks considered Arcane or Divine? There is a magic item, Dark Shard Amulet that is for Warlocks and it requires an Arcana check to use.
However, the magic a warlock uses is granted from a patron. So, wouldn't the warlock be a divine caster like the Cleric or Paladin?
dnd-5e magic warlock
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Eternallord66Eternallord66
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– Peregrine Lennert
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@PeregrineLennert I would accept either answer. We would go with whichever the DM finds to suit his campaign better.
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This question recently came up in one of my sessions. Are Warlocks considered Arcane or Divine? There is a magic item, Dark Shard Amulet that is for Warlocks and it requires an Arcana check to use.
However, the magic a warlock uses is granted from a patron. So, wouldn't the warlock be a divine caster like the Cleric or Paladin?
dnd-5e magic warlock
asked Mar 25 at 16:52
Eternallord66Eternallord66
1,078833
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This question recently came up in one of my sessions. Are Warlocks considered Arcane or Divine? There is a magic item, Dark Shard Amulet that is for Warlocks and it requires an Arcana check to use.
However, the magic a warlock uses is granted from a patron. So, wouldn't the warlock be a divine caster like the Cleric or Paladin?
dnd-5e magic warlock
dnd-5e magic warlock
asked Mar 25 at 16:52
Eternallord66Eternallord66
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Eternallord66Eternallord66
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Eternallord66
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Eternallord66Eternallord66
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– Peregrine Lennert
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@PeregrineLennert I would accept either answer. We would go with whichever the DM finds to suit his campaign better.
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– Eternallord66
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– Peregrine Lennert
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@PeregrineLennert I would accept either answer. We would go with whichever the DM finds to suit his campaign better.
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– Eternallord66
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Are you asking rules-wise or lore-wise?
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– Peregrine Lennert
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Are you asking rules-wise or lore-wise?
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– Peregrine Lennert
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@PeregrineLennert I would accept either answer. We would go with whichever the DM finds to suit his campaign better.
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– Eternallord66
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@PeregrineLennert I would accept either answer. We would go with whichever the DM finds to suit his campaign better.
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5th Edition doesn't have a [mechanical] distinction between Arcane and Divine spellcasting
Each spellcasting class has different rules regarding what is allowed to be used as their spellcasting focus, and Warlocks (and Sorcerers and Wizards) are allowed to use an "Arcane Focus" as their spellcasting, suggesting that they constitute Arcane spellcasters. This is also confirmed by the Lore provided in the Weave of Magic blurb found in the player's handbook:
All magic depends on the Weave, though different kinds of magic access it in a variety of ways. The spells of wizards, warlocks, sorcerers, and bards are commonly called arcane magic. These spells rely on an understanding—learned or intuitive—of the workings of the Weave. The caster plucks directly at the strands of the Weave to create the desired effect. Eldritch knights and arcane tricksters also use arcane magic. The spells of clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers are called divine magic. These spellcasters' access to the Weave is mediated by divine power—gods, the divine forces of nature, or the sacred weight of a paladin's oath.
—The Weave of Magic, PHB, pg. 205
But mechanically, this doesn't matter. There's no such thing as "Arcane Spells" or "Divine Spells" in 5th Edition D&D, with any kind of mechanical impact on how the spell is cast or how it functions. Spells are just spells, and individual classes have individual rules regarding how they cast spells and which spells they're allowed to learn and how they "prepare" spells (if they prepare spells at all).
The Dark Shard Amulet calls for an "Arcana" check, not an "Arcane" check
Arcana is a skill that a character may or may not have proficiency in, that usually (though not always; see PHB pg. 175, Variant: Skills with Different Abilities) is based on a character's Intelligence score. This skill is accessible to any class in the game. So if you attempt to use the feature of the Dark Shard Amulet, you're called upon to perform an Intelligence check that allows you to use your Arcana skill proficiency, if you have it, in order to perform the Cantrip you don't already know. The happenstance of the source of your magic being Arcane (or not) is immaterial.
answered Mar 25 at 17:05
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Wouldn't a mechanical distinction be the type of focus you can use?
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– NautArch
Mar 25 at 17:06
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@NautArch There is the possibility of using "arcane focus", "holy symbol", "druidic focus" or "musical instrument" which seems to be different from an arcane/divine split
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– Sdjz
Mar 25 at 17:10
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@Sdjz Maybe, but each focus is related to those classes, and Warlocks are only offered one of them.
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– NautArch
Mar 25 at 17:12
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@NautArch That's fair, though I do think it is also fair to say that it isn't really much of a "mechanical distinction", perhaps relaxing the wording to something like "there is little distinction" then
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– Sdjz
Mar 25 at 17:14
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Warlocks are Arcane Casters
This is answered in the Weave of Magic sidebar in the Spellcasting section of the Basic Rules (or Player's Handbook; emphasis mine):
All magic depends on the Weave, though different kinds of magic access it in a variety of ways. The spells of wizards, warlocks, sorcerers, and bards are commonly called arcane magic.
answered Mar 25 at 17:09
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Here is an interview with Jeremy Crawford where he describes, among other things, why warlocks are considered arcane casters and not divine casters even though they get their power through a patron.
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– Aaron Rotenberg
Mar 26 at 4:49
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5th Edition doesn't have a [mechanical] distinction between Arcane and Divine spellcasting
Each spellcasting class has different rules regarding what is allowed to be used as their spellcasting focus, and Warlocks (and Sorcerers and Wizards) are allowed to use an "Arcane Focus" as their spellcasting, suggesting that they constitute Arcane spellcasters. This is also confirmed by the Lore provided in the Weave of Magic blurb found in the player's handbook:
All magic depends on the Weave, though different kinds of magic access it in a variety of ways. The spells of wizards, warlocks, sorcerers, and bards are commonly called arcane magic. These spells rely on an understanding—learned or intuitive—of the workings of the Weave. The caster plucks directly at the strands of the Weave to create the desired effect. Eldritch knights and arcane tricksters also use arcane magic. The spells of clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers are called divine magic. These spellcasters' access to the Weave is mediated by divine power—gods, the divine forces of nature, or the sacred weight of a paladin's oath.
—The Weave of Magic, PHB, pg. 205
But mechanically, this doesn't matter. There's no such thing as "Arcane Spells" or "Divine Spells" in 5th Edition D&D, with any kind of mechanical impact on how the spell is cast or how it functions. Spells are just spells, and individual classes have individual rules regarding how they cast spells and which spells they're allowed to learn and how they "prepare" spells (if they prepare spells at all).
The Dark Shard Amulet calls for an "Arcana" check, not an "Arcane" check
Arcana is a skill that a character may or may not have proficiency in, that usually (though not always; see PHB pg. 175, Variant: Skills with Different Abilities) is based on a character's Intelligence score. This skill is accessible to any class in the game. So if you attempt to use the feature of the Dark Shard Amulet, you're called upon to perform an Intelligence check that allows you to use your Arcana skill proficiency, if you have it, in order to perform the Cantrip you don't already know. The happenstance of the source of your magic being Arcane (or not) is immaterial.
answered Mar 25 at 17:05
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Wouldn't a mechanical distinction be the type of focus you can use?
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– NautArch
Mar 25 at 17:06
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@NautArch There is the possibility of using "arcane focus", "holy symbol", "druidic focus" or "musical instrument" which seems to be different from an arcane/divine split
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– Sdjz
Mar 25 at 17:10
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@Sdjz Maybe, but each focus is related to those classes, and Warlocks are only offered one of them.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Mar 25 at 17:12
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@NautArch That's fair, though I do think it is also fair to say that it isn't really much of a "mechanical distinction", perhaps relaxing the wording to something like "there is little distinction" then
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
Mar 25 at 17:14
add a comment |
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5th Edition doesn't have a [mechanical] distinction between Arcane and Divine spellcasting
Each spellcasting class has different rules regarding what is allowed to be used as their spellcasting focus, and Warlocks (and Sorcerers and Wizards) are allowed to use an "Arcane Focus" as their spellcasting, suggesting that they constitute Arcane spellcasters. This is also confirmed by the Lore provided in the Weave of Magic blurb found in the player's handbook:
All magic depends on the Weave, though different kinds of magic access it in a variety of ways. The spells of wizards, warlocks, sorcerers, and bards are commonly called arcane magic. These spells rely on an understanding—learned or intuitive—of the workings of the Weave. The caster plucks directly at the strands of the Weave to create the desired effect. Eldritch knights and arcane tricksters also use arcane magic. The spells of clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers are called divine magic. These spellcasters' access to the Weave is mediated by divine power—gods, the divine forces of nature, or the sacred weight of a paladin's oath.
—The Weave of Magic, PHB, pg. 205
But mechanically, this doesn't matter. There's no such thing as "Arcane Spells" or "Divine Spells" in 5th Edition D&D, with any kind of mechanical impact on how the spell is cast or how it functions. Spells are just spells, and individual classes have individual rules regarding how they cast spells and which spells they're allowed to learn and how they "prepare" spells (if they prepare spells at all).
The Dark Shard Amulet calls for an "Arcana" check, not an "Arcane" check
Arcana is a skill that a character may or may not have proficiency in, that usually (though not always; see PHB pg. 175, Variant: Skills with Different Abilities) is based on a character's Intelligence score. This skill is accessible to any class in the game. So if you attempt to use the feature of the Dark Shard Amulet, you're called upon to perform an Intelligence check that allows you to use your Arcana skill proficiency, if you have it, in order to perform the Cantrip you don't already know. The happenstance of the source of your magic being Arcane (or not) is immaterial.
answered Mar 25 at 17:05
XiremaXirema
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Wouldn't a mechanical distinction be the type of focus you can use?
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– NautArch
Mar 25 at 17:06
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@NautArch There is the possibility of using "arcane focus", "holy symbol", "druidic focus" or "musical instrument" which seems to be different from an arcane/divine split
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
Mar 25 at 17:10
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@Sdjz Maybe, but each focus is related to those classes, and Warlocks are only offered one of them.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Mar 25 at 17:12
5
$begingroup$
@NautArch That's fair, though I do think it is also fair to say that it isn't really much of a "mechanical distinction", perhaps relaxing the wording to something like "there is little distinction" then
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
Mar 25 at 17:14
add a comment |
$begingroup$
5th Edition doesn't have a [mechanical] distinction between Arcane and Divine spellcasting
Each spellcasting class has different rules regarding what is allowed to be used as their spellcasting focus, and Warlocks (and Sorcerers and Wizards) are allowed to use an "Arcane Focus" as their spellcasting, suggesting that they constitute Arcane spellcasters. This is also confirmed by the Lore provided in the Weave of Magic blurb found in the player's handbook:
All magic depends on the Weave, though different kinds of magic access it in a variety of ways. The spells of wizards, warlocks, sorcerers, and bards are commonly called arcane magic. These spells rely on an understanding—learned or intuitive—of the workings of the Weave. The caster plucks directly at the strands of the Weave to create the desired effect. Eldritch knights and arcane tricksters also use arcane magic. The spells of clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers are called divine magic. These spellcasters' access to the Weave is mediated by divine power—gods, the divine forces of nature, or the sacred weight of a paladin's oath.
—The Weave of Magic, PHB, pg. 205
But mechanically, this doesn't matter. There's no such thing as "Arcane Spells" or "Divine Spells" in 5th Edition D&D, with any kind of mechanical impact on how the spell is cast or how it functions. Spells are just spells, and individual classes have individual rules regarding how they cast spells and which spells they're allowed to learn and how they "prepare" spells (if they prepare spells at all).
The Dark Shard Amulet calls for an "Arcana" check, not an "Arcane" check
Arcana is a skill that a character may or may not have proficiency in, that usually (though not always; see PHB pg. 175, Variant: Skills with Different Abilities) is based on a character's Intelligence score. This skill is accessible to any class in the game. So if you attempt to use the feature of the Dark Shard Amulet, you're called upon to perform an Intelligence check that allows you to use your Arcana skill proficiency, if you have it, in order to perform the Cantrip you don't already know. The happenstance of the source of your magic being Arcane (or not) is immaterial.
answered Mar 25 at 17:05
XiremaXirema
24.6k270146
$endgroup$
5th Edition doesn't have a [mechanical] distinction between Arcane and Divine spellcasting
Each spellcasting class has different rules regarding what is allowed to be used as their spellcasting focus, and Warlocks (and Sorcerers and Wizards) are allowed to use an "Arcane Focus" as their spellcasting, suggesting that they constitute Arcane spellcasters. This is also confirmed by the Lore provided in the Weave of Magic blurb found in the player's handbook:
All magic depends on the Weave, though different kinds of magic access it in a variety of ways. The spells of wizards, warlocks, sorcerers, and bards are commonly called arcane magic. These spells rely on an understanding—learned or intuitive—of the workings of the Weave. The caster plucks directly at the strands of the Weave to create the desired effect. Eldritch knights and arcane tricksters also use arcane magic. The spells of clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers are called divine magic. These spellcasters' access to the Weave is mediated by divine power—gods, the divine forces of nature, or the sacred weight of a paladin's oath.
—The Weave of Magic, PHB, pg. 205
But mechanically, this doesn't matter. There's no such thing as "Arcane Spells" or "Divine Spells" in 5th Edition D&D, with any kind of mechanical impact on how the spell is cast or how it functions. Spells are just spells, and individual classes have individual rules regarding how they cast spells and which spells they're allowed to learn and how they "prepare" spells (if they prepare spells at all).
The Dark Shard Amulet calls for an "Arcana" check, not an "Arcane" check
Arcana is a skill that a character may or may not have proficiency in, that usually (though not always; see PHB pg. 175, Variant: Skills with Different Abilities) is based on a character's Intelligence score. This skill is accessible to any class in the game. So if you attempt to use the feature of the Dark Shard Amulet, you're called upon to perform an Intelligence check that allows you to use your Arcana skill proficiency, if you have it, in order to perform the Cantrip you don't already know. The happenstance of the source of your magic being Arcane (or not) is immaterial.
answered Mar 25 at 17:05
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answered Mar 25 at 17:05
XiremaXirema
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XiremaXirema
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Wouldn't a mechanical distinction be the type of focus you can use?
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– NautArch
Mar 25 at 17:06
4
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@NautArch There is the possibility of using "arcane focus", "holy symbol", "druidic focus" or "musical instrument" which seems to be different from an arcane/divine split
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– Sdjz
Mar 25 at 17:10
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@Sdjz Maybe, but each focus is related to those classes, and Warlocks are only offered one of them.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Mar 25 at 17:12
5
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@NautArch That's fair, though I do think it is also fair to say that it isn't really much of a "mechanical distinction", perhaps relaxing the wording to something like "there is little distinction" then
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
Mar 25 at 17:14
add a comment |
1
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Wouldn't a mechanical distinction be the type of focus you can use?
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Mar 25 at 17:06
4
$begingroup$
@NautArch There is the possibility of using "arcane focus", "holy symbol", "druidic focus" or "musical instrument" which seems to be different from an arcane/divine split
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
Mar 25 at 17:10
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@Sdjz Maybe, but each focus is related to those classes, and Warlocks are only offered one of them.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Mar 25 at 17:12
5
$begingroup$
@NautArch That's fair, though I do think it is also fair to say that it isn't really much of a "mechanical distinction", perhaps relaxing the wording to something like "there is little distinction" then
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
Mar 25 at 17:14
1
1
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Wouldn't a mechanical distinction be the type of focus you can use?
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Mar 25 at 17:06
$begingroup$
Wouldn't a mechanical distinction be the type of focus you can use?
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Mar 25 at 17:06
4
4
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@NautArch There is the possibility of using "arcane focus", "holy symbol", "druidic focus" or "musical instrument" which seems to be different from an arcane/divine split
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
Mar 25 at 17:10
$begingroup$
@NautArch There is the possibility of using "arcane focus", "holy symbol", "druidic focus" or "musical instrument" which seems to be different from an arcane/divine split
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
Mar 25 at 17:10
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@Sdjz Maybe, but each focus is related to those classes, and Warlocks are only offered one of them.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Mar 25 at 17:12
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@Sdjz Maybe, but each focus is related to those classes, and Warlocks are only offered one of them.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Mar 25 at 17:12
5
5
$begingroup$
@NautArch That's fair, though I do think it is also fair to say that it isn't really much of a "mechanical distinction", perhaps relaxing the wording to something like "there is little distinction" then
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
Mar 25 at 17:14
$begingroup$
@NautArch That's fair, though I do think it is also fair to say that it isn't really much of a "mechanical distinction", perhaps relaxing the wording to something like "there is little distinction" then
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
Mar 25 at 17:14
add a comment |
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Warlocks are Arcane Casters
This is answered in the Weave of Magic sidebar in the Spellcasting section of the Basic Rules (or Player's Handbook; emphasis mine):
All magic depends on the Weave, though different kinds of magic access it in a variety of ways. The spells of wizards, warlocks, sorcerers, and bards are commonly called arcane magic.
answered Mar 25 at 17:09
David CoffronDavid Coffron
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Here is an interview with Jeremy Crawford where he describes, among other things, why warlocks are considered arcane casters and not divine casters even though they get their power through a patron.
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– Aaron Rotenberg
Mar 26 at 4:49
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Warlocks are Arcane Casters
This is answered in the Weave of Magic sidebar in the Spellcasting section of the Basic Rules (or Player's Handbook; emphasis mine):
All magic depends on the Weave, though different kinds of magic access it in a variety of ways. The spells of wizards, warlocks, sorcerers, and bards are commonly called arcane magic.
answered Mar 25 at 17:09
David CoffronDavid Coffron
40.4k3139290
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
Here is an interview with Jeremy Crawford where he describes, among other things, why warlocks are considered arcane casters and not divine casters even though they get their power through a patron.
$endgroup$
– Aaron Rotenberg
Mar 26 at 4:49
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Warlocks are Arcane Casters
This is answered in the Weave of Magic sidebar in the Spellcasting section of the Basic Rules (or Player's Handbook; emphasis mine):
All magic depends on the Weave, though different kinds of magic access it in a variety of ways. The spells of wizards, warlocks, sorcerers, and bards are commonly called arcane magic.
answered Mar 25 at 17:09
David CoffronDavid Coffron
40.4k3139290
$endgroup$
Warlocks are Arcane Casters
This is answered in the Weave of Magic sidebar in the Spellcasting section of the Basic Rules (or Player's Handbook; emphasis mine):
All magic depends on the Weave, though different kinds of magic access it in a variety of ways. The spells of wizards, warlocks, sorcerers, and bards are commonly called arcane magic.
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Here is an interview with Jeremy Crawford where he describes, among other things, why warlocks are considered arcane casters and not divine casters even though they get their power through a patron.
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– Aaron Rotenberg
Mar 26 at 4:49
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Here is an interview with Jeremy Crawford where he describes, among other things, why warlocks are considered arcane casters and not divine casters even though they get their power through a patron.
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– Aaron Rotenberg
Mar 26 at 4:49
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Here is an interview with Jeremy Crawford where he describes, among other things, why warlocks are considered arcane casters and not divine casters even though they get their power through a patron.
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– Aaron Rotenberg
Mar 26 at 4:49
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Here is an interview with Jeremy Crawford where he describes, among other things, why warlocks are considered arcane casters and not divine casters even though they get their power through a patron.
$endgroup$
– Aaron Rotenberg
Mar 26 at 4:49
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Are you asking rules-wise or lore-wise?
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– Peregrine Lennert
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@PeregrineLennert I would accept either answer. We would go with whichever the DM finds to suit his campaign better.
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