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Let $X$ be a set and $h:mathcal{P}(X)tomathcal{P}(X)$ a function with the following properties:



(1) $h(emptyset)=emptyset$



(2) $Asubseteq hA$



(3) $hhA=hA$



(4) $h(Acup B)=hAcup hB$



for every $A,Bsubseteq X$.
There exists exactly one topology on $X$ such that for every subset $A$ in $X$ the set $hA$ is the closure of $A$ with regards to that topology.




I tried to define this topology $tau$ by: $tau:={Asubseteq X| h(A)^csubseteq X}$



Now I want to show, that this is well-defined and indeed a topology.
The definition makes sense, as far as I can tell, because $hA$ has to be the closure of $A$ and therefor $h(A)^c$ has to be open.
By definition of $tau$ the sets $h(A)^c$ are open.



Now for the axioms of the topology:



$emptysetintau$. Because it is $Xsubseteq hXsubseteq X$ by property (2) and $h$ mapping onto $mathcal{P}(X)$. So $hX=X$ and $h(X)^c=emptyset$.



$Xintau$, because it is $h(emptyset)=emptyset$ by property (1). And then $h(emptyset)^c=X$.



Now let $A,Bsubseteq X$ be elements of $tau$.
I have to show, that $Acap Bintau$.



So it has to hold $h(Acap B)^csubseteq X$, and this is kinda suspicious, because $h:mathcal{P}(X)tomathcal{P}(X)$ and my definition of $tau$ might be bad...



Is the definition of $tau$ correct?
Hints are appreciated, I would like to try again on my own.



Thanks in advance.










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    What does $A^c$ mean?
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    @Dog_69 It means the complement of $A$ in $X$. So $A^c=Xsetminus A$.
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    But then your topology is discrete. $h$ gives you an element of $P(A)$ and hence the complementary will be too. You need to modify your definition of $tau$.
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    – Dog_69
    yesterday










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    Did you translate that quoted block from German?
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    @celtschk Yes, I did. The task is taken from the book "Grundkurs Topologie" by Gerd Laures and Markus Szymik.
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$begingroup$



Let $X$ be a set and $h:mathcal{P}(X)tomathcal{P}(X)$ a function with the following properties:



(1) $h(emptyset)=emptyset$



(2) $Asubseteq hA$



(3) $hhA=hA$



(4) $h(Acup B)=hAcup hB$



for every $A,Bsubseteq X$.
There exists exactly one topology on $X$ such that for every subset $A$ in $X$ the set $hA$ is the closure of $A$ with regards to that topology.




I tried to define this topology $tau$ by: $tau:={Asubseteq X| h(A)^csubseteq X}$



Now I want to show, that this is well-defined and indeed a topology.
The definition makes sense, as far as I can tell, because $hA$ has to be the closure of $A$ and therefor $h(A)^c$ has to be open.
By definition of $tau$ the sets $h(A)^c$ are open.



Now for the axioms of the topology:



$emptysetintau$. Because it is $Xsubseteq hXsubseteq X$ by property (2) and $h$ mapping onto $mathcal{P}(X)$. So $hX=X$ and $h(X)^c=emptyset$.



$Xintau$, because it is $h(emptyset)=emptyset$ by property (1). And then $h(emptyset)^c=X$.



Now let $A,Bsubseteq X$ be elements of $tau$.
I have to show, that $Acap Bintau$.



So it has to hold $h(Acap B)^csubseteq X$, and this is kinda suspicious, because $h:mathcal{P}(X)tomathcal{P}(X)$ and my definition of $tau$ might be bad...



Is the definition of $tau$ correct?
Hints are appreciated, I would like to try again on my own.



Thanks in advance.










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  • $begingroup$
    What does $A^c$ mean?
    $endgroup$
    – Dog_69
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    @Dog_69 It means the complement of $A$ in $X$. So $A^c=Xsetminus A$.
    $endgroup$
    – Cornman
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    But then your topology is discrete. $h$ gives you an element of $P(A)$ and hence the complementary will be too. You need to modify your definition of $tau$.
    $endgroup$
    – Dog_69
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    Did you translate that quoted block from German?
    $endgroup$
    – celtschk
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    @celtschk Yes, I did. The task is taken from the book "Grundkurs Topologie" by Gerd Laures and Markus Szymik.
    $endgroup$
    – Cornman
    yesterday
















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0








0





$begingroup$



Let $X$ be a set and $h:mathcal{P}(X)tomathcal{P}(X)$ a function with the following properties:



(1) $h(emptyset)=emptyset$



(2) $Asubseteq hA$



(3) $hhA=hA$



(4) $h(Acup B)=hAcup hB$



for every $A,Bsubseteq X$.
There exists exactly one topology on $X$ such that for every subset $A$ in $X$ the set $hA$ is the closure of $A$ with regards to that topology.




I tried to define this topology $tau$ by: $tau:={Asubseteq X| h(A)^csubseteq X}$



Now I want to show, that this is well-defined and indeed a topology.
The definition makes sense, as far as I can tell, because $hA$ has to be the closure of $A$ and therefor $h(A)^c$ has to be open.
By definition of $tau$ the sets $h(A)^c$ are open.



Now for the axioms of the topology:



$emptysetintau$. Because it is $Xsubseteq hXsubseteq X$ by property (2) and $h$ mapping onto $mathcal{P}(X)$. So $hX=X$ and $h(X)^c=emptyset$.



$Xintau$, because it is $h(emptyset)=emptyset$ by property (1). And then $h(emptyset)^c=X$.



Now let $A,Bsubseteq X$ be elements of $tau$.
I have to show, that $Acap Bintau$.



So it has to hold $h(Acap B)^csubseteq X$, and this is kinda suspicious, because $h:mathcal{P}(X)tomathcal{P}(X)$ and my definition of $tau$ might be bad...



Is the definition of $tau$ correct?
Hints are appreciated, I would like to try again on my own.



Thanks in advance.










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Let $X$ be a set and $h:mathcal{P}(X)tomathcal{P}(X)$ a function with the following properties:



(1) $h(emptyset)=emptyset$



(2) $Asubseteq hA$



(3) $hhA=hA$



(4) $h(Acup B)=hAcup hB$



for every $A,Bsubseteq X$.
There exists exactly one topology on $X$ such that for every subset $A$ in $X$ the set $hA$ is the closure of $A$ with regards to that topology.




I tried to define this topology $tau$ by: $tau:={Asubseteq X| h(A)^csubseteq X}$



Now I want to show, that this is well-defined and indeed a topology.
The definition makes sense, as far as I can tell, because $hA$ has to be the closure of $A$ and therefor $h(A)^c$ has to be open.
By definition of $tau$ the sets $h(A)^c$ are open.



Now for the axioms of the topology:



$emptysetintau$. Because it is $Xsubseteq hXsubseteq X$ by property (2) and $h$ mapping onto $mathcal{P}(X)$. So $hX=X$ and $h(X)^c=emptyset$.



$Xintau$, because it is $h(emptyset)=emptyset$ by property (1). And then $h(emptyset)^c=X$.



Now let $A,Bsubseteq X$ be elements of $tau$.
I have to show, that $Acap Bintau$.



So it has to hold $h(Acap B)^csubseteq X$, and this is kinda suspicious, because $h:mathcal{P}(X)tomathcal{P}(X)$ and my definition of $tau$ might be bad...



Is the definition of $tau$ correct?
Hints are appreciated, I would like to try again on my own.



Thanks in advance.







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  • $begingroup$
    What does $A^c$ mean?
    $endgroup$
    – Dog_69
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    @Dog_69 It means the complement of $A$ in $X$. So $A^c=Xsetminus A$.
    $endgroup$
    – Cornman
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    But then your topology is discrete. $h$ gives you an element of $P(A)$ and hence the complementary will be too. You need to modify your definition of $tau$.
    $endgroup$
    – Dog_69
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    Did you translate that quoted block from German?
    $endgroup$
    – celtschk
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    @celtschk Yes, I did. The task is taken from the book "Grundkurs Topologie" by Gerd Laures and Markus Szymik.
    $endgroup$
    – Cornman
    yesterday




















  • $begingroup$
    What does $A^c$ mean?
    $endgroup$
    – Dog_69
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    @Dog_69 It means the complement of $A$ in $X$. So $A^c=Xsetminus A$.
    $endgroup$
    – Cornman
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    But then your topology is discrete. $h$ gives you an element of $P(A)$ and hence the complementary will be too. You need to modify your definition of $tau$.
    $endgroup$
    – Dog_69
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    Did you translate that quoted block from German?
    $endgroup$
    – celtschk
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    @celtschk Yes, I did. The task is taken from the book "Grundkurs Topologie" by Gerd Laures and Markus Szymik.
    $endgroup$
    – Cornman
    yesterday


















$begingroup$
What does $A^c$ mean?
$endgroup$
– Dog_69
yesterday




$begingroup$
What does $A^c$ mean?
$endgroup$
– Dog_69
yesterday












$begingroup$
@Dog_69 It means the complement of $A$ in $X$. So $A^c=Xsetminus A$.
$endgroup$
– Cornman
yesterday




$begingroup$
@Dog_69 It means the complement of $A$ in $X$. So $A^c=Xsetminus A$.
$endgroup$
– Cornman
yesterday












$begingroup$
But then your topology is discrete. $h$ gives you an element of $P(A)$ and hence the complementary will be too. You need to modify your definition of $tau$.
$endgroup$
– Dog_69
yesterday




$begingroup$
But then your topology is discrete. $h$ gives you an element of $P(A)$ and hence the complementary will be too. You need to modify your definition of $tau$.
$endgroup$
– Dog_69
yesterday












$begingroup$
Did you translate that quoted block from German?
$endgroup$
– celtschk
yesterday




$begingroup$
Did you translate that quoted block from German?
$endgroup$
– celtschk
yesterday












$begingroup$
@celtschk Yes, I did. The task is taken from the book "Grundkurs Topologie" by Gerd Laures and Markus Szymik.
$endgroup$
– Cornman
yesterday






$begingroup$
@celtschk Yes, I did. The task is taken from the book "Grundkurs Topologie" by Gerd Laures and Markus Szymik.
$endgroup$
– Cornman
yesterday












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Your definition of $tau$ isn't right. By your definition $tau$ is simply the powerset of $X$. Here is likely what you want:



$$tau={Xsetminus h(A)mid Asubseteq X}$$



Then $Xsetminus h(emptyset)=Xintau$ and $Xsetminus h(X)=emptysetintau$.



If $A,Bintau$ then $A=Xsetminus h(U)$ and $B=Xsetminus h(V)$ for some $U,Vsubseteq X$. Then



$$Acap B=(Xsetminus h(U))cap(Xsetminus h(V))=Xsetminus(h(U)cup h(V))=Xsetminus h(Ucup V)$$



Therefore $Acap Bintau$.



Finally if ${A_{alpha}}_{alphain I}$ is some collection of elements in $tau$ then say that $A_{alpha}=Xsetminus h(U_{alpha})$ for some $U_{alpha}subseteq X$. Then



$$bigcup_{alphain I}A_{alpha}=bigcup_{alphain I}(Xsetminus h(U_{alpha}))=Xsetminusleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



To finish this line we will need your third and second axioms.



$$bigcap h(U_{alpha})subseteq hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



For each $alphain I$ we have that $bigcap_{betain I}h(U_{beta})subseteq h(U_{alpha})$



Thus by monotonicity and idempotence (axioms two and three) we have



$$hleft(bigcap_{betain I}h(U_{beta})right)subseteq hh(U_{alpha})=h(U_{alpha})$$



for each $alpha$. We then have that



$$hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)subseteqbigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})subseteq hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



Establishing equality between the two sets. We then have that



$$Xsetminusleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)=Xsetminus hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



Therefore, the union over the family ${A_{alpha}}_{alphain I}$ is an element of $tau$, establishing that $tau$ is indeed a topology on $X$.






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    Equivalently, $tau = { A subseteq X mid h(A^c) = A^c }$.
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    You mean "For each $alphain I$ we have $bigcap_{betain I} h(U_beta)subseteq h(U_alpha)$", right?
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    Yes I do, thank you.
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    How can one deduce, that $tau$ is unique? Is it because it depends on $h$ only and the $h(A)^c$ beeing unique?
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    You can show that $h(A)$ is the closure of $A$ in $tau$ and of course the complements of the closed sets are uniquely determined.
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Your definition of $tau$ isn't right. By your definition $tau$ is simply the powerset of $X$. Here is likely what you want:



$$tau={Xsetminus h(A)mid Asubseteq X}$$



Then $Xsetminus h(emptyset)=Xintau$ and $Xsetminus h(X)=emptysetintau$.



If $A,Bintau$ then $A=Xsetminus h(U)$ and $B=Xsetminus h(V)$ for some $U,Vsubseteq X$. Then



$$Acap B=(Xsetminus h(U))cap(Xsetminus h(V))=Xsetminus(h(U)cup h(V))=Xsetminus h(Ucup V)$$



Therefore $Acap Bintau$.



Finally if ${A_{alpha}}_{alphain I}$ is some collection of elements in $tau$ then say that $A_{alpha}=Xsetminus h(U_{alpha})$ for some $U_{alpha}subseteq X$. Then



$$bigcup_{alphain I}A_{alpha}=bigcup_{alphain I}(Xsetminus h(U_{alpha}))=Xsetminusleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



To finish this line we will need your third and second axioms.



$$bigcap h(U_{alpha})subseteq hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



For each $alphain I$ we have that $bigcap_{betain I}h(U_{beta})subseteq h(U_{alpha})$



Thus by monotonicity and idempotence (axioms two and three) we have



$$hleft(bigcap_{betain I}h(U_{beta})right)subseteq hh(U_{alpha})=h(U_{alpha})$$



for each $alpha$. We then have that



$$hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)subseteqbigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})subseteq hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



Establishing equality between the two sets. We then have that



$$Xsetminusleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)=Xsetminus hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



Therefore, the union over the family ${A_{alpha}}_{alphain I}$ is an element of $tau$, establishing that $tau$ is indeed a topology on $X$.






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    Equivalently, $tau = { A subseteq X mid h(A^c) = A^c }$.
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    – Daniel Schepler
    yesterday






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    $begingroup$
    You mean "For each $alphain I$ we have $bigcap_{betain I} h(U_beta)subseteq h(U_alpha)$", right?
    $endgroup$
    – Cornman
    yesterday












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    Yes I do, thank you.
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    – Robert Thingum
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  • $begingroup$
    How can one deduce, that $tau$ is unique? Is it because it depends on $h$ only and the $h(A)^c$ beeing unique?
    $endgroup$
    – Cornman
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    You can show that $h(A)$ is the closure of $A$ in $tau$ and of course the complements of the closed sets are uniquely determined.
    $endgroup$
    – Robert Thingum
    yesterday
















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$begingroup$

Your definition of $tau$ isn't right. By your definition $tau$ is simply the powerset of $X$. Here is likely what you want:



$$tau={Xsetminus h(A)mid Asubseteq X}$$



Then $Xsetminus h(emptyset)=Xintau$ and $Xsetminus h(X)=emptysetintau$.



If $A,Bintau$ then $A=Xsetminus h(U)$ and $B=Xsetminus h(V)$ for some $U,Vsubseteq X$. Then



$$Acap B=(Xsetminus h(U))cap(Xsetminus h(V))=Xsetminus(h(U)cup h(V))=Xsetminus h(Ucup V)$$



Therefore $Acap Bintau$.



Finally if ${A_{alpha}}_{alphain I}$ is some collection of elements in $tau$ then say that $A_{alpha}=Xsetminus h(U_{alpha})$ for some $U_{alpha}subseteq X$. Then



$$bigcup_{alphain I}A_{alpha}=bigcup_{alphain I}(Xsetminus h(U_{alpha}))=Xsetminusleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



To finish this line we will need your third and second axioms.



$$bigcap h(U_{alpha})subseteq hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



For each $alphain I$ we have that $bigcap_{betain I}h(U_{beta})subseteq h(U_{alpha})$



Thus by monotonicity and idempotence (axioms two and three) we have



$$hleft(bigcap_{betain I}h(U_{beta})right)subseteq hh(U_{alpha})=h(U_{alpha})$$



for each $alpha$. We then have that



$$hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)subseteqbigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})subseteq hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



Establishing equality between the two sets. We then have that



$$Xsetminusleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)=Xsetminus hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



Therefore, the union over the family ${A_{alpha}}_{alphain I}$ is an element of $tau$, establishing that $tau$ is indeed a topology on $X$.






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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Equivalently, $tau = { A subseteq X mid h(A^c) = A^c }$.
    $endgroup$
    – Daniel Schepler
    yesterday






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    You mean "For each $alphain I$ we have $bigcap_{betain I} h(U_beta)subseteq h(U_alpha)$", right?
    $endgroup$
    – Cornman
    yesterday












  • $begingroup$
    Yes I do, thank you.
    $endgroup$
    – Robert Thingum
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    How can one deduce, that $tau$ is unique? Is it because it depends on $h$ only and the $h(A)^c$ beeing unique?
    $endgroup$
    – Cornman
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    You can show that $h(A)$ is the closure of $A$ in $tau$ and of course the complements of the closed sets are uniquely determined.
    $endgroup$
    – Robert Thingum
    yesterday














2












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2





$begingroup$

Your definition of $tau$ isn't right. By your definition $tau$ is simply the powerset of $X$. Here is likely what you want:



$$tau={Xsetminus h(A)mid Asubseteq X}$$



Then $Xsetminus h(emptyset)=Xintau$ and $Xsetminus h(X)=emptysetintau$.



If $A,Bintau$ then $A=Xsetminus h(U)$ and $B=Xsetminus h(V)$ for some $U,Vsubseteq X$. Then



$$Acap B=(Xsetminus h(U))cap(Xsetminus h(V))=Xsetminus(h(U)cup h(V))=Xsetminus h(Ucup V)$$



Therefore $Acap Bintau$.



Finally if ${A_{alpha}}_{alphain I}$ is some collection of elements in $tau$ then say that $A_{alpha}=Xsetminus h(U_{alpha})$ for some $U_{alpha}subseteq X$. Then



$$bigcup_{alphain I}A_{alpha}=bigcup_{alphain I}(Xsetminus h(U_{alpha}))=Xsetminusleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



To finish this line we will need your third and second axioms.



$$bigcap h(U_{alpha})subseteq hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



For each $alphain I$ we have that $bigcap_{betain I}h(U_{beta})subseteq h(U_{alpha})$



Thus by monotonicity and idempotence (axioms two and three) we have



$$hleft(bigcap_{betain I}h(U_{beta})right)subseteq hh(U_{alpha})=h(U_{alpha})$$



for each $alpha$. We then have that



$$hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)subseteqbigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})subseteq hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



Establishing equality between the two sets. We then have that



$$Xsetminusleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)=Xsetminus hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



Therefore, the union over the family ${A_{alpha}}_{alphain I}$ is an element of $tau$, establishing that $tau$ is indeed a topology on $X$.






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Your definition of $tau$ isn't right. By your definition $tau$ is simply the powerset of $X$. Here is likely what you want:



$$tau={Xsetminus h(A)mid Asubseteq X}$$



Then $Xsetminus h(emptyset)=Xintau$ and $Xsetminus h(X)=emptysetintau$.



If $A,Bintau$ then $A=Xsetminus h(U)$ and $B=Xsetminus h(V)$ for some $U,Vsubseteq X$. Then



$$Acap B=(Xsetminus h(U))cap(Xsetminus h(V))=Xsetminus(h(U)cup h(V))=Xsetminus h(Ucup V)$$



Therefore $Acap Bintau$.



Finally if ${A_{alpha}}_{alphain I}$ is some collection of elements in $tau$ then say that $A_{alpha}=Xsetminus h(U_{alpha})$ for some $U_{alpha}subseteq X$. Then



$$bigcup_{alphain I}A_{alpha}=bigcup_{alphain I}(Xsetminus h(U_{alpha}))=Xsetminusleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



To finish this line we will need your third and second axioms.



$$bigcap h(U_{alpha})subseteq hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



For each $alphain I$ we have that $bigcap_{betain I}h(U_{beta})subseteq h(U_{alpha})$



Thus by monotonicity and idempotence (axioms two and three) we have



$$hleft(bigcap_{betain I}h(U_{beta})right)subseteq hh(U_{alpha})=h(U_{alpha})$$



for each $alpha$. We then have that



$$hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)subseteqbigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})subseteq hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



Establishing equality between the two sets. We then have that



$$Xsetminusleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)=Xsetminus hleft(bigcap_{alphain I}h(U_{alpha})right)$$



Therefore, the union over the family ${A_{alpha}}_{alphain I}$ is an element of $tau$, establishing that $tau$ is indeed a topology on $X$.







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    $begingroup$
    Equivalently, $tau = { A subseteq X mid h(A^c) = A^c }$.
    $endgroup$
    – Daniel Schepler
    yesterday






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    $begingroup$
    You mean "For each $alphain I$ we have $bigcap_{betain I} h(U_beta)subseteq h(U_alpha)$", right?
    $endgroup$
    – Cornman
    yesterday












  • $begingroup$
    Yes I do, thank you.
    $endgroup$
    – Robert Thingum
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    How can one deduce, that $tau$ is unique? Is it because it depends on $h$ only and the $h(A)^c$ beeing unique?
    $endgroup$
    – Cornman
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    You can show that $h(A)$ is the closure of $A$ in $tau$ and of course the complements of the closed sets are uniquely determined.
    $endgroup$
    – Robert Thingum
    yesterday














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Equivalently, $tau = { A subseteq X mid h(A^c) = A^c }$.
    $endgroup$
    – Daniel Schepler
    yesterday






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    You mean "For each $alphain I$ we have $bigcap_{betain I} h(U_beta)subseteq h(U_alpha)$", right?
    $endgroup$
    – Cornman
    yesterday












  • $begingroup$
    Yes I do, thank you.
    $endgroup$
    – Robert Thingum
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    How can one deduce, that $tau$ is unique? Is it because it depends on $h$ only and the $h(A)^c$ beeing unique?
    $endgroup$
    – Cornman
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    You can show that $h(A)$ is the closure of $A$ in $tau$ and of course the complements of the closed sets are uniquely determined.
    $endgroup$
    – Robert Thingum
    yesterday








1




1




$begingroup$
Equivalently, $tau = { A subseteq X mid h(A^c) = A^c }$.
$endgroup$
– Daniel Schepler
yesterday




$begingroup$
Equivalently, $tau = { A subseteq X mid h(A^c) = A^c }$.
$endgroup$
– Daniel Schepler
yesterday




1




1




$begingroup$
You mean "For each $alphain I$ we have $bigcap_{betain I} h(U_beta)subseteq h(U_alpha)$", right?
$endgroup$
– Cornman
yesterday






$begingroup$
You mean "For each $alphain I$ we have $bigcap_{betain I} h(U_beta)subseteq h(U_alpha)$", right?
$endgroup$
– Cornman
yesterday














$begingroup$
Yes I do, thank you.
$endgroup$
– Robert Thingum
yesterday




$begingroup$
Yes I do, thank you.
$endgroup$
– Robert Thingum
yesterday












$begingroup$
How can one deduce, that $tau$ is unique? Is it because it depends on $h$ only and the $h(A)^c$ beeing unique?
$endgroup$
– Cornman
yesterday




$begingroup$
How can one deduce, that $tau$ is unique? Is it because it depends on $h$ only and the $h(A)^c$ beeing unique?
$endgroup$
– Cornman
yesterday












$begingroup$
You can show that $h(A)$ is the closure of $A$ in $tau$ and of course the complements of the closed sets are uniquely determined.
$endgroup$
– Robert Thingum
yesterday




$begingroup$
You can show that $h(A)$ is the closure of $A$ in $tau$ and of course the complements of the closed sets are uniquely determined.
$endgroup$
– Robert Thingum
yesterday


















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