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Given $X$ Hilbert space, $Tin X^*$, $y$ projection of $x_0$ on $Y=text{Ker}T$, why does $x-frac{T(x)}{T(x_0-y)}(x_0-y)in text{Ker}T$?
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Let
$X$ Hilbert space
$Tin X^*$, ie $T:Xtomathbb R$ linear
$Y=text{Ker}T={xin X:T(x)=0}$ closed subspace of $X$
- $x_0in Xsetminus Y$
$yin Y$ orthogonal projection of $x_0$ on $Y$, ie $langle x_0-y,z rangle=0$ for every $zin Y$
$w=x-frac{T(x)}{T(x_0-y)}(x_0-y)$, with $xin X$
Show that
$Y$ is closed
$win Y$ for every $xin X$
(1) Hints?
(2) In the case $xin Y$, then $T(x)=0$ and so $w=x-0=xin Y$.
In the case $xin Xsetminus Y$, by linearity of $T$, it is $T(x_0-y)=T(x_0)-(y)=T(x_0)$, since $yin Y$.
so $w=x-frac{T(x)}{T(x_0)}(x_0-y)$.
We can write $X=Yoplus Y^perp$, so we can see $xin X$ as sum of an element of $Y$ with an element of $Y^perp$. Since $(x_0-y)in Y^perp$ and $frac{T(x)}{T(x_0)}$ is just a scalar, I suppose that the product of them is still an element of $Y^perp$.
So we can see $w$ as "an element of $Y$" $+$ "an element of $Y^perp$" $-$ "an element of $Y^perp$". I suppose that whatever $x$ will be, we can choose the second term in such a way that it will be equal to the third one, so that they will cancel out.
How to prove this in a rigorous way?
functional-analysis hilbert-spaces
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Let
$X$ Hilbert space
$Tin X^*$, ie $T:Xtomathbb R$ linear
$Y=text{Ker}T={xin X:T(x)=0}$ closed subspace of $X$
- $x_0in Xsetminus Y$
$yin Y$ orthogonal projection of $x_0$ on $Y$, ie $langle x_0-y,z rangle=0$ for every $zin Y$
$w=x-frac{T(x)}{T(x_0-y)}(x_0-y)$, with $xin X$
Show that
$Y$ is closed
$win Y$ for every $xin X$
(1) Hints?
(2) In the case $xin Y$, then $T(x)=0$ and so $w=x-0=xin Y$.
In the case $xin Xsetminus Y$, by linearity of $T$, it is $T(x_0-y)=T(x_0)-(y)=T(x_0)$, since $yin Y$.
so $w=x-frac{T(x)}{T(x_0)}(x_0-y)$.
We can write $X=Yoplus Y^perp$, so we can see $xin X$ as sum of an element of $Y$ with an element of $Y^perp$. Since $(x_0-y)in Y^perp$ and $frac{T(x)}{T(x_0)}$ is just a scalar, I suppose that the product of them is still an element of $Y^perp$.
So we can see $w$ as "an element of $Y$" $+$ "an element of $Y^perp$" $-$ "an element of $Y^perp$". I suppose that whatever $x$ will be, we can choose the second term in such a way that it will be equal to the third one, so that they will cancel out.
How to prove this in a rigorous way?
functional-analysis hilbert-spaces
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Let
$X$ Hilbert space
$Tin X^*$, ie $T:Xtomathbb R$ linear
$Y=text{Ker}T={xin X:T(x)=0}$ closed subspace of $X$
- $x_0in Xsetminus Y$
$yin Y$ orthogonal projection of $x_0$ on $Y$, ie $langle x_0-y,z rangle=0$ for every $zin Y$
$w=x-frac{T(x)}{T(x_0-y)}(x_0-y)$, with $xin X$
Show that
$Y$ is closed
$win Y$ for every $xin X$
(1) Hints?
(2) In the case $xin Y$, then $T(x)=0$ and so $w=x-0=xin Y$.
In the case $xin Xsetminus Y$, by linearity of $T$, it is $T(x_0-y)=T(x_0)-(y)=T(x_0)$, since $yin Y$.
so $w=x-frac{T(x)}{T(x_0)}(x_0-y)$.
We can write $X=Yoplus Y^perp$, so we can see $xin X$ as sum of an element of $Y$ with an element of $Y^perp$. Since $(x_0-y)in Y^perp$ and $frac{T(x)}{T(x_0)}$ is just a scalar, I suppose that the product of them is still an element of $Y^perp$.
So we can see $w$ as "an element of $Y$" $+$ "an element of $Y^perp$" $-$ "an element of $Y^perp$". I suppose that whatever $x$ will be, we can choose the second term in such a way that it will be equal to the third one, so that they will cancel out.
How to prove this in a rigorous way?
functional-analysis hilbert-spaces
$endgroup$
Let
$X$ Hilbert space
$Tin X^*$, ie $T:Xtomathbb R$ linear
$Y=text{Ker}T={xin X:T(x)=0}$ closed subspace of $X$
- $x_0in Xsetminus Y$
$yin Y$ orthogonal projection of $x_0$ on $Y$, ie $langle x_0-y,z rangle=0$ for every $zin Y$
$w=x-frac{T(x)}{T(x_0-y)}(x_0-y)$, with $xin X$
Show that
$Y$ is closed
$win Y$ for every $xin X$
(1) Hints?
(2) In the case $xin Y$, then $T(x)=0$ and so $w=x-0=xin Y$.
In the case $xin Xsetminus Y$, by linearity of $T$, it is $T(x_0-y)=T(x_0)-(y)=T(x_0)$, since $yin Y$.
so $w=x-frac{T(x)}{T(x_0)}(x_0-y)$.
We can write $X=Yoplus Y^perp$, so we can see $xin X$ as sum of an element of $Y$ with an element of $Y^perp$. Since $(x_0-y)in Y^perp$ and $frac{T(x)}{T(x_0)}$ is just a scalar, I suppose that the product of them is still an element of $Y^perp$.
So we can see $w$ as "an element of $Y$" $+$ "an element of $Y^perp$" $-$ "an element of $Y^perp$". I suppose that whatever $x$ will be, we can choose the second term in such a way that it will be equal to the third one, so that they will cancel out.
How to prove this in a rigorous way?
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$T$ is continous and $Y$ is the inverse image of ${0}$ under $T$ so it is closed.
Second part follows from linearity of $T$: $Tw=Tx-frac {Tx} {T(x_0-y)} {T(x_0-y)}=Tx-Tx=0$.
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Thank you very much. I understand the second part. About the first one, are you saying that since ${0}$ is closed, also $Y=T^{-1}({0})$ is closed ?
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Yes, that is what I meant
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13 hours ago
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Ok, but I don't understand why from continuity of $T$ and the fact that ${0}$ is closed, it follows that $T^{-1}({0})$ is closed.
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$tiny{ciao!}$ @soundwave if $T: X rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is continuous, and ${ 0 }$ is closed, then $X setminus T^{-1}({ 0 })=T^{-1}(mathbb{R} setminus {0 })$ is an open set. So $T^{-1}({0})$ is closed (since its complement is open)
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@VoB grazie! ;)
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$T$ is continous and $Y$ is the inverse image of ${0}$ under $T$ so it is closed.
Second part follows from linearity of $T$: $Tw=Tx-frac {Tx} {T(x_0-y)} {T(x_0-y)}=Tx-Tx=0$.
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Thank you very much. I understand the second part. About the first one, are you saying that since ${0}$ is closed, also $Y=T^{-1}({0})$ is closed ?
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– sound wave
14 hours ago
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Yes, that is what I meant
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
13 hours ago
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Ok, but I don't understand why from continuity of $T$ and the fact that ${0}$ is closed, it follows that $T^{-1}({0})$ is closed.
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– sound wave
13 hours ago
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$tiny{ciao!}$ @soundwave if $T: X rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is continuous, and ${ 0 }$ is closed, then $X setminus T^{-1}({ 0 })=T^{-1}(mathbb{R} setminus {0 })$ is an open set. So $T^{-1}({0})$ is closed (since its complement is open)
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@VoB grazie! ;)
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$T$ is continous and $Y$ is the inverse image of ${0}$ under $T$ so it is closed.
Second part follows from linearity of $T$: $Tw=Tx-frac {Tx} {T(x_0-y)} {T(x_0-y)}=Tx-Tx=0$.
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$begingroup$
Thank you very much. I understand the second part. About the first one, are you saying that since ${0}$ is closed, also $Y=T^{-1}({0})$ is closed ?
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– sound wave
14 hours ago
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Yes, that is what I meant
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
13 hours ago
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Ok, but I don't understand why from continuity of $T$ and the fact that ${0}$ is closed, it follows that $T^{-1}({0})$ is closed.
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– sound wave
13 hours ago
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$tiny{ciao!}$ @soundwave if $T: X rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is continuous, and ${ 0 }$ is closed, then $X setminus T^{-1}({ 0 })=T^{-1}(mathbb{R} setminus {0 })$ is an open set. So $T^{-1}({0})$ is closed (since its complement is open)
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@VoB grazie! ;)
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$T$ is continous and $Y$ is the inverse image of ${0}$ under $T$ so it is closed.
Second part follows from linearity of $T$: $Tw=Tx-frac {Tx} {T(x_0-y)} {T(x_0-y)}=Tx-Tx=0$.
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$T$ is continous and $Y$ is the inverse image of ${0}$ under $T$ so it is closed.
Second part follows from linearity of $T$: $Tw=Tx-frac {Tx} {T(x_0-y)} {T(x_0-y)}=Tx-Tx=0$.
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Thank you very much. I understand the second part. About the first one, are you saying that since ${0}$ is closed, also $Y=T^{-1}({0})$ is closed ?
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– sound wave
14 hours ago
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Yes, that is what I meant
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
13 hours ago
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Ok, but I don't understand why from continuity of $T$ and the fact that ${0}$ is closed, it follows that $T^{-1}({0})$ is closed.
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– sound wave
13 hours ago
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$tiny{ciao!}$ @soundwave if $T: X rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is continuous, and ${ 0 }$ is closed, then $X setminus T^{-1}({ 0 })=T^{-1}(mathbb{R} setminus {0 })$ is an open set. So $T^{-1}({0})$ is closed (since its complement is open)
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@VoB grazie! ;)
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Thank you very much. I understand the second part. About the first one, are you saying that since ${0}$ is closed, also $Y=T^{-1}({0})$ is closed ?
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– sound wave
14 hours ago
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Yes, that is what I meant
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
13 hours ago
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Ok, but I don't understand why from continuity of $T$ and the fact that ${0}$ is closed, it follows that $T^{-1}({0})$ is closed.
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– sound wave
13 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
$tiny{ciao!}$ @soundwave if $T: X rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is continuous, and ${ 0 }$ is closed, then $X setminus T^{-1}({ 0 })=T^{-1}(mathbb{R} setminus {0 })$ is an open set. So $T^{-1}({0})$ is closed (since its complement is open)
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– VoB
12 hours ago
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@VoB grazie! ;)
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– sound wave
12 hours ago
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Thank you very much. I understand the second part. About the first one, are you saying that since ${0}$ is closed, also $Y=T^{-1}({0})$ is closed ?
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– sound wave
14 hours ago
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Thank you very much. I understand the second part. About the first one, are you saying that since ${0}$ is closed, also $Y=T^{-1}({0})$ is closed ?
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– sound wave
14 hours ago
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Yes, that is what I meant
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
13 hours ago
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Yes, that is what I meant
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
13 hours ago
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Ok, but I don't understand why from continuity of $T$ and the fact that ${0}$ is closed, it follows that $T^{-1}({0})$ is closed.
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– sound wave
13 hours ago
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Ok, but I don't understand why from continuity of $T$ and the fact that ${0}$ is closed, it follows that $T^{-1}({0})$ is closed.
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– sound wave
13 hours ago
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$tiny{ciao!}$ @soundwave if $T: X rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is continuous, and ${ 0 }$ is closed, then $X setminus T^{-1}({ 0 })=T^{-1}(mathbb{R} setminus {0 })$ is an open set. So $T^{-1}({0})$ is closed (since its complement is open)
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– VoB
12 hours ago
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$tiny{ciao!}$ @soundwave if $T: X rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is continuous, and ${ 0 }$ is closed, then $X setminus T^{-1}({ 0 })=T^{-1}(mathbb{R} setminus {0 })$ is an open set. So $T^{-1}({0})$ is closed (since its complement is open)
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– VoB
12 hours ago
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@VoB grazie! ;)
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@VoB grazie! ;)
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