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Differentials of Measures in the context of Radon Nikodym Derivatives.


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I first note that a similar question was asked here: Calculating Radon Nikodym derivative, though the explicit steps used to calculate the derivative were not made clear.



Over measurable space $([0,1],mathcal{B}_{[0,1]}), mu:=nu+delta_{0}.$



$forall Ainmathcal{B}_{[0,1]}$ define $nu(A):=|A|.$



Finally, $delta_{0} $ is the dirac measure with criterion of measured set containing $0$ in order to evaluate to 1.



$mu >>nu$ is clear and therefore $dnu/dmu$ exists.



$dnu/dmu overset{*}= frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)}=frac{|dy|}{|dy|+delta_{0}(dy)} = 1/frac{|dy|+delta_{0}(dy)}{|dy|} =1/(1+delta_{0}(dy)/|dy|)$.
It is immediately apparent at this step, however, that this derivative will always be nonzero. Thus, I did something wrong in my calculation (and would like some help seeing where I went wrong). * is due to Notation when integrating with respect to a measure and is where I imagine I went wrong.



UPDATE:



It is clear that $nu(A)=int_{A}dnu= int_{A}frac{dnu}{dmu}dmuLeftarrow frac{dnu}{dmu}=mathbf{1}_{{X/0}}$ to cancel out the dirac measure part in $mu$ when it is not measure $0$, however, can the derivative be calculated from the differentials in some way or is it purely determined through the integral?










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    The "differential" is just notation and is defined by the integral equation.
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    – user251257
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    @user251257 Interesting... is this why SDEs are typically interpreted in the integral equation form en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…?
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    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 20 at 1:27










  • $begingroup$
    As stated in the wikipedia article, SDE is an integral equation. The "differential equation" is just informal notation.
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    – user251257
    Mar 20 at 1:32










  • $begingroup$
    @user251257 I see, thank you for pointing that out! I wasn't sure as to why SDEs were formally integral equations until now.
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    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 20 at 1:59
















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$begingroup$


I first note that a similar question was asked here: Calculating Radon Nikodym derivative, though the explicit steps used to calculate the derivative were not made clear.



Over measurable space $([0,1],mathcal{B}_{[0,1]}), mu:=nu+delta_{0}.$



$forall Ainmathcal{B}_{[0,1]}$ define $nu(A):=|A|.$



Finally, $delta_{0} $ is the dirac measure with criterion of measured set containing $0$ in order to evaluate to 1.



$mu >>nu$ is clear and therefore $dnu/dmu$ exists.



$dnu/dmu overset{*}= frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)}=frac{|dy|}{|dy|+delta_{0}(dy)} = 1/frac{|dy|+delta_{0}(dy)}{|dy|} =1/(1+delta_{0}(dy)/|dy|)$.
It is immediately apparent at this step, however, that this derivative will always be nonzero. Thus, I did something wrong in my calculation (and would like some help seeing where I went wrong). * is due to Notation when integrating with respect to a measure and is where I imagine I went wrong.



UPDATE:



It is clear that $nu(A)=int_{A}dnu= int_{A}frac{dnu}{dmu}dmuLeftarrow frac{dnu}{dmu}=mathbf{1}_{{X/0}}$ to cancel out the dirac measure part in $mu$ when it is not measure $0$, however, can the derivative be calculated from the differentials in some way or is it purely determined through the integral?










share|cite|improve this question











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  • $begingroup$
    The "differential" is just notation and is defined by the integral equation.
    $endgroup$
    – user251257
    Mar 20 at 0:17










  • $begingroup$
    @user251257 Interesting... is this why SDEs are typically interpreted in the integral equation form en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…?
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 20 at 1:27










  • $begingroup$
    As stated in the wikipedia article, SDE is an integral equation. The "differential equation" is just informal notation.
    $endgroup$
    – user251257
    Mar 20 at 1:32










  • $begingroup$
    @user251257 I see, thank you for pointing that out! I wasn't sure as to why SDEs were formally integral equations until now.
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 20 at 1:59














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$begingroup$


I first note that a similar question was asked here: Calculating Radon Nikodym derivative, though the explicit steps used to calculate the derivative were not made clear.



Over measurable space $([0,1],mathcal{B}_{[0,1]}), mu:=nu+delta_{0}.$



$forall Ainmathcal{B}_{[0,1]}$ define $nu(A):=|A|.$



Finally, $delta_{0} $ is the dirac measure with criterion of measured set containing $0$ in order to evaluate to 1.



$mu >>nu$ is clear and therefore $dnu/dmu$ exists.



$dnu/dmu overset{*}= frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)}=frac{|dy|}{|dy|+delta_{0}(dy)} = 1/frac{|dy|+delta_{0}(dy)}{|dy|} =1/(1+delta_{0}(dy)/|dy|)$.
It is immediately apparent at this step, however, that this derivative will always be nonzero. Thus, I did something wrong in my calculation (and would like some help seeing where I went wrong). * is due to Notation when integrating with respect to a measure and is where I imagine I went wrong.



UPDATE:



It is clear that $nu(A)=int_{A}dnu= int_{A}frac{dnu}{dmu}dmuLeftarrow frac{dnu}{dmu}=mathbf{1}_{{X/0}}$ to cancel out the dirac measure part in $mu$ when it is not measure $0$, however, can the derivative be calculated from the differentials in some way or is it purely determined through the integral?










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$




I first note that a similar question was asked here: Calculating Radon Nikodym derivative, though the explicit steps used to calculate the derivative were not made clear.



Over measurable space $([0,1],mathcal{B}_{[0,1]}), mu:=nu+delta_{0}.$



$forall Ainmathcal{B}_{[0,1]}$ define $nu(A):=|A|.$



Finally, $delta_{0} $ is the dirac measure with criterion of measured set containing $0$ in order to evaluate to 1.



$mu >>nu$ is clear and therefore $dnu/dmu$ exists.



$dnu/dmu overset{*}= frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)}=frac{|dy|}{|dy|+delta_{0}(dy)} = 1/frac{|dy|+delta_{0}(dy)}{|dy|} =1/(1+delta_{0}(dy)/|dy|)$.
It is immediately apparent at this step, however, that this derivative will always be nonzero. Thus, I did something wrong in my calculation (and would like some help seeing where I went wrong). * is due to Notation when integrating with respect to a measure and is where I imagine I went wrong.



UPDATE:



It is clear that $nu(A)=int_{A}dnu= int_{A}frac{dnu}{dmu}dmuLeftarrow frac{dnu}{dmu}=mathbf{1}_{{X/0}}$ to cancel out the dirac measure part in $mu$ when it is not measure $0$, however, can the derivative be calculated from the differentials in some way or is it purely determined through the integral?







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  • $begingroup$
    The "differential" is just notation and is defined by the integral equation.
    $endgroup$
    – user251257
    Mar 20 at 0:17










  • $begingroup$
    @user251257 Interesting... is this why SDEs are typically interpreted in the integral equation form en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…?
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 20 at 1:27










  • $begingroup$
    As stated in the wikipedia article, SDE is an integral equation. The "differential equation" is just informal notation.
    $endgroup$
    – user251257
    Mar 20 at 1:32










  • $begingroup$
    @user251257 I see, thank you for pointing that out! I wasn't sure as to why SDEs were formally integral equations until now.
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 20 at 1:59


















  • $begingroup$
    The "differential" is just notation and is defined by the integral equation.
    $endgroup$
    – user251257
    Mar 20 at 0:17










  • $begingroup$
    @user251257 Interesting... is this why SDEs are typically interpreted in the integral equation form en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…?
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 20 at 1:27










  • $begingroup$
    As stated in the wikipedia article, SDE is an integral equation. The "differential equation" is just informal notation.
    $endgroup$
    – user251257
    Mar 20 at 1:32










  • $begingroup$
    @user251257 I see, thank you for pointing that out! I wasn't sure as to why SDEs were formally integral equations until now.
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 20 at 1:59
















$begingroup$
The "differential" is just notation and is defined by the integral equation.
$endgroup$
– user251257
Mar 20 at 0:17




$begingroup$
The "differential" is just notation and is defined by the integral equation.
$endgroup$
– user251257
Mar 20 at 0:17












$begingroup$
@user251257 Interesting... is this why SDEs are typically interpreted in the integral equation form en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…?
$endgroup$
– BayesIsBae
Mar 20 at 1:27




$begingroup$
@user251257 Interesting... is this why SDEs are typically interpreted in the integral equation form en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…?
$endgroup$
– BayesIsBae
Mar 20 at 1:27












$begingroup$
As stated in the wikipedia article, SDE is an integral equation. The "differential equation" is just informal notation.
$endgroup$
– user251257
Mar 20 at 1:32




$begingroup$
As stated in the wikipedia article, SDE is an integral equation. The "differential equation" is just informal notation.
$endgroup$
– user251257
Mar 20 at 1:32












$begingroup$
@user251257 I see, thank you for pointing that out! I wasn't sure as to why SDEs were formally integral equations until now.
$endgroup$
– BayesIsBae
Mar 20 at 1:59




$begingroup$
@user251257 I see, thank you for pointing that out! I wasn't sure as to why SDEs were formally integral equations until now.
$endgroup$
– BayesIsBae
Mar 20 at 1:59










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Your analysis was basically correct, and will be made rigorous below. At
$$
frac1{1+frac{delta_0(dy)}{|dy|}}
$$

look what happens when $dy$ is around $0$. Then $|dy|$ is infinitely small,while $delta_0(dy)=1$. Therefore, the above is $frac1{1+frac10}=frac1{infty}=0$, so the derivative is equal to $0$ at $y=0$, as expected. You were think $1/text{stuff}$ could not be zero, but you forgot about stuff $=infty$.





To get a differential characterization of $frac{dnu}{dmu}$, it can shown that for $mu$ a.e. $x$, you have
$$
frac{dnu}{dmu}(x)=lim_{epsilonto 0}frac{nu((x-epsilon,x+epsilon)cap [0,1])}{mu((x-epsilon,x+epsilon)cap [0,1])}.
$$

This is a generalization of the Lebesgue differentiation theorem. I do not know what the standard reference for this is, but chapter 6.3 of these notes has a proof.



Now, when $xneq 0$, then both the numerator and denominator are equal for all small enough $epsilon$, so the limit is $1$. However, when $x=0$, the numerator will tend to zero while the denominator will tend to $1$. This shows that
$$
frac{dnu}{dmu}=1_{(0,1]}qquad mu ;a.e.
$$






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    I see. This is surprising as I thought it would be the case that because $mu$ is not absolutely continuous w.r.t. $nu$ that perhaps $ (frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$ does not exist as in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon%E2%80%93Nikodym_theorem#Properties. How is it then that my inversion of the original density was proper?
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    $(frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$ always exists when $frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)}$ exists, though it might be infinite. It is only $frac{mu(dy)}{nu(dy)}$ which may not exist. If $frac{mu(dy)}{nu(dy)}$ exists, then it equals $(frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$. @BayesIsBae
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    That is very interesting!
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    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 21 at 2:30










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    Well, we are working over the measurable space $([0,1],mathcal B_{[0,1]})$, so I was making sure all of the subsets actually lived in that space.
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    – Mike Earnest
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    Sorry about that - I realized only after asking in a previous comment
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    – BayesIsBae
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Your analysis was basically correct, and will be made rigorous below. At
$$
frac1{1+frac{delta_0(dy)}{|dy|}}
$$

look what happens when $dy$ is around $0$. Then $|dy|$ is infinitely small,while $delta_0(dy)=1$. Therefore, the above is $frac1{1+frac10}=frac1{infty}=0$, so the derivative is equal to $0$ at $y=0$, as expected. You were think $1/text{stuff}$ could not be zero, but you forgot about stuff $=infty$.





To get a differential characterization of $frac{dnu}{dmu}$, it can shown that for $mu$ a.e. $x$, you have
$$
frac{dnu}{dmu}(x)=lim_{epsilonto 0}frac{nu((x-epsilon,x+epsilon)cap [0,1])}{mu((x-epsilon,x+epsilon)cap [0,1])}.
$$

This is a generalization of the Lebesgue differentiation theorem. I do not know what the standard reference for this is, but chapter 6.3 of these notes has a proof.



Now, when $xneq 0$, then both the numerator and denominator are equal for all small enough $epsilon$, so the limit is $1$. However, when $x=0$, the numerator will tend to zero while the denominator will tend to $1$. This shows that
$$
frac{dnu}{dmu}=1_{(0,1]}qquad mu ;a.e.
$$






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    I see. This is surprising as I thought it would be the case that because $mu$ is not absolutely continuous w.r.t. $nu$ that perhaps $ (frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$ does not exist as in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon%E2%80%93Nikodym_theorem#Properties. How is it then that my inversion of the original density was proper?
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    – BayesIsBae
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  • $begingroup$
    $(frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$ always exists when $frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)}$ exists, though it might be infinite. It is only $frac{mu(dy)}{nu(dy)}$ which may not exist. If $frac{mu(dy)}{nu(dy)}$ exists, then it equals $(frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$. @BayesIsBae
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    – Mike Earnest
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    That is very interesting!
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    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 21 at 2:30










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    Well, we are working over the measurable space $([0,1],mathcal B_{[0,1]})$, so I was making sure all of the subsets actually lived in that space.
    $endgroup$
    – Mike Earnest
    Apr 4 at 1:22










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    Sorry about that - I realized only after asking in a previous comment
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    – BayesIsBae
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$begingroup$

Your analysis was basically correct, and will be made rigorous below. At
$$
frac1{1+frac{delta_0(dy)}{|dy|}}
$$

look what happens when $dy$ is around $0$. Then $|dy|$ is infinitely small,while $delta_0(dy)=1$. Therefore, the above is $frac1{1+frac10}=frac1{infty}=0$, so the derivative is equal to $0$ at $y=0$, as expected. You were think $1/text{stuff}$ could not be zero, but you forgot about stuff $=infty$.





To get a differential characterization of $frac{dnu}{dmu}$, it can shown that for $mu$ a.e. $x$, you have
$$
frac{dnu}{dmu}(x)=lim_{epsilonto 0}frac{nu((x-epsilon,x+epsilon)cap [0,1])}{mu((x-epsilon,x+epsilon)cap [0,1])}.
$$

This is a generalization of the Lebesgue differentiation theorem. I do not know what the standard reference for this is, but chapter 6.3 of these notes has a proof.



Now, when $xneq 0$, then both the numerator and denominator are equal for all small enough $epsilon$, so the limit is $1$. However, when $x=0$, the numerator will tend to zero while the denominator will tend to $1$. This shows that
$$
frac{dnu}{dmu}=1_{(0,1]}qquad mu ;a.e.
$$






share|cite|improve this answer









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  • $begingroup$
    I see. This is surprising as I thought it would be the case that because $mu$ is not absolutely continuous w.r.t. $nu$ that perhaps $ (frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$ does not exist as in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon%E2%80%93Nikodym_theorem#Properties. How is it then that my inversion of the original density was proper?
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 20 at 23:26












  • $begingroup$
    $(frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$ always exists when $frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)}$ exists, though it might be infinite. It is only $frac{mu(dy)}{nu(dy)}$ which may not exist. If $frac{mu(dy)}{nu(dy)}$ exists, then it equals $(frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$. @BayesIsBae
    $endgroup$
    – Mike Earnest
    Mar 21 at 0:08












  • $begingroup$
    That is very interesting!
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 21 at 2:30










  • $begingroup$
    Well, we are working over the measurable space $([0,1],mathcal B_{[0,1]})$, so I was making sure all of the subsets actually lived in that space.
    $endgroup$
    – Mike Earnest
    Apr 4 at 1:22










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry about that - I realized only after asking in a previous comment
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Apr 4 at 1:24














2












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2





$begingroup$

Your analysis was basically correct, and will be made rigorous below. At
$$
frac1{1+frac{delta_0(dy)}{|dy|}}
$$

look what happens when $dy$ is around $0$. Then $|dy|$ is infinitely small,while $delta_0(dy)=1$. Therefore, the above is $frac1{1+frac10}=frac1{infty}=0$, so the derivative is equal to $0$ at $y=0$, as expected. You were think $1/text{stuff}$ could not be zero, but you forgot about stuff $=infty$.





To get a differential characterization of $frac{dnu}{dmu}$, it can shown that for $mu$ a.e. $x$, you have
$$
frac{dnu}{dmu}(x)=lim_{epsilonto 0}frac{nu((x-epsilon,x+epsilon)cap [0,1])}{mu((x-epsilon,x+epsilon)cap [0,1])}.
$$

This is a generalization of the Lebesgue differentiation theorem. I do not know what the standard reference for this is, but chapter 6.3 of these notes has a proof.



Now, when $xneq 0$, then both the numerator and denominator are equal for all small enough $epsilon$, so the limit is $1$. However, when $x=0$, the numerator will tend to zero while the denominator will tend to $1$. This shows that
$$
frac{dnu}{dmu}=1_{(0,1]}qquad mu ;a.e.
$$






share|cite|improve this answer









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Your analysis was basically correct, and will be made rigorous below. At
$$
frac1{1+frac{delta_0(dy)}{|dy|}}
$$

look what happens when $dy$ is around $0$. Then $|dy|$ is infinitely small,while $delta_0(dy)=1$. Therefore, the above is $frac1{1+frac10}=frac1{infty}=0$, so the derivative is equal to $0$ at $y=0$, as expected. You were think $1/text{stuff}$ could not be zero, but you forgot about stuff $=infty$.





To get a differential characterization of $frac{dnu}{dmu}$, it can shown that for $mu$ a.e. $x$, you have
$$
frac{dnu}{dmu}(x)=lim_{epsilonto 0}frac{nu((x-epsilon,x+epsilon)cap [0,1])}{mu((x-epsilon,x+epsilon)cap [0,1])}.
$$

This is a generalization of the Lebesgue differentiation theorem. I do not know what the standard reference for this is, but chapter 6.3 of these notes has a proof.



Now, when $xneq 0$, then both the numerator and denominator are equal for all small enough $epsilon$, so the limit is $1$. However, when $x=0$, the numerator will tend to zero while the denominator will tend to $1$. This shows that
$$
frac{dnu}{dmu}=1_{(0,1]}qquad mu ;a.e.
$$







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    I see. This is surprising as I thought it would be the case that because $mu$ is not absolutely continuous w.r.t. $nu$ that perhaps $ (frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$ does not exist as in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon%E2%80%93Nikodym_theorem#Properties. How is it then that my inversion of the original density was proper?
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    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 20 at 23:26












  • $begingroup$
    $(frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$ always exists when $frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)}$ exists, though it might be infinite. It is only $frac{mu(dy)}{nu(dy)}$ which may not exist. If $frac{mu(dy)}{nu(dy)}$ exists, then it equals $(frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$. @BayesIsBae
    $endgroup$
    – Mike Earnest
    Mar 21 at 0:08












  • $begingroup$
    That is very interesting!
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 21 at 2:30










  • $begingroup$
    Well, we are working over the measurable space $([0,1],mathcal B_{[0,1]})$, so I was making sure all of the subsets actually lived in that space.
    $endgroup$
    – Mike Earnest
    Apr 4 at 1:22










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    Sorry about that - I realized only after asking in a previous comment
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    – BayesIsBae
    Apr 4 at 1:24


















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    I see. This is surprising as I thought it would be the case that because $mu$ is not absolutely continuous w.r.t. $nu$ that perhaps $ (frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$ does not exist as in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon%E2%80%93Nikodym_theorem#Properties. How is it then that my inversion of the original density was proper?
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    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 20 at 23:26












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    $(frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$ always exists when $frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)}$ exists, though it might be infinite. It is only $frac{mu(dy)}{nu(dy)}$ which may not exist. If $frac{mu(dy)}{nu(dy)}$ exists, then it equals $(frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$. @BayesIsBae
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    – Mike Earnest
    Mar 21 at 0:08












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    That is very interesting!
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    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 21 at 2:30










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    Well, we are working over the measurable space $([0,1],mathcal B_{[0,1]})$, so I was making sure all of the subsets actually lived in that space.
    $endgroup$
    – Mike Earnest
    Apr 4 at 1:22










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry about that - I realized only after asking in a previous comment
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Apr 4 at 1:24
















$begingroup$
I see. This is surprising as I thought it would be the case that because $mu$ is not absolutely continuous w.r.t. $nu$ that perhaps $ (frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$ does not exist as in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon%E2%80%93Nikodym_theorem#Properties. How is it then that my inversion of the original density was proper?
$endgroup$
– BayesIsBae
Mar 20 at 23:26






$begingroup$
I see. This is surprising as I thought it would be the case that because $mu$ is not absolutely continuous w.r.t. $nu$ that perhaps $ (frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$ does not exist as in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon%E2%80%93Nikodym_theorem#Properties. How is it then that my inversion of the original density was proper?
$endgroup$
– BayesIsBae
Mar 20 at 23:26














$begingroup$
$(frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$ always exists when $frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)}$ exists, though it might be infinite. It is only $frac{mu(dy)}{nu(dy)}$ which may not exist. If $frac{mu(dy)}{nu(dy)}$ exists, then it equals $(frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$. @BayesIsBae
$endgroup$
– Mike Earnest
Mar 21 at 0:08






$begingroup$
$(frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$ always exists when $frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)}$ exists, though it might be infinite. It is only $frac{mu(dy)}{nu(dy)}$ which may not exist. If $frac{mu(dy)}{nu(dy)}$ exists, then it equals $(frac{nu(dy)}{mu(dy)})^{-1}$. @BayesIsBae
$endgroup$
– Mike Earnest
Mar 21 at 0:08














$begingroup$
That is very interesting!
$endgroup$
– BayesIsBae
Mar 21 at 2:30




$begingroup$
That is very interesting!
$endgroup$
– BayesIsBae
Mar 21 at 2:30












$begingroup$
Well, we are working over the measurable space $([0,1],mathcal B_{[0,1]})$, so I was making sure all of the subsets actually lived in that space.
$endgroup$
– Mike Earnest
Apr 4 at 1:22




$begingroup$
Well, we are working over the measurable space $([0,1],mathcal B_{[0,1]})$, so I was making sure all of the subsets actually lived in that space.
$endgroup$
– Mike Earnest
Apr 4 at 1:22












$begingroup$
Sorry about that - I realized only after asking in a previous comment
$endgroup$
– BayesIsBae
Apr 4 at 1:24




$begingroup$
Sorry about that - I realized only after asking in a previous comment
$endgroup$
– BayesIsBae
Apr 4 at 1:24


















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