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Consider:



fn main() 
// Prints 8, 8, 16
println!(
", , ",
std::mem::size_of::<Box<i8>>(),
std::mem::size_of::<Box<&[i8]>>(),
std::mem::size_of::<Box<[i8]>>(),
);



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Consider:



fn main() 
// Prints 8, 8, 16
println!(
", , ",
std::mem::size_of::<Box<i8>>(),
std::mem::size_of::<Box<&[i8]>>(),
std::mem::size_of::<Box<[i8]>>(),
);



Why do owned slices take 16 bytes, but referenced slices take only 8?










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  • Playground: play.rust-lang.org/…

    – French Boiethios
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    Previous discussion: i.stack.imgur.com/Xt6L3.png

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Consider:



fn main() 
// Prints 8, 8, 16
println!(
", , ",
std::mem::size_of::<Box<i8>>(),
std::mem::size_of::<Box<&[i8]>>(),
std::mem::size_of::<Box<[i8]>>(),
);



Why do owned slices take 16 bytes, but referenced slices take only 8?










share|improve this question
















Consider:



fn main() 
// Prints 8, 8, 16
println!(
", , ",
std::mem::size_of::<Box<i8>>(),
std::mem::size_of::<Box<&[i8]>>(),
std::mem::size_of::<Box<[i8]>>(),
);



Why do owned slices take 16 bytes, but referenced slices take only 8?







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  • Playground: play.rust-lang.org/…

    – French Boiethios
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    Previous discussion: i.stack.imgur.com/Xt6L3.png

    – hellow
    8 hours ago

















  • Playground: play.rust-lang.org/…

    – French Boiethios
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    Previous discussion: i.stack.imgur.com/Xt6L3.png

    – hellow
    8 hours ago
















Playground: play.rust-lang.org/…

– French Boiethios
8 hours ago





Playground: play.rust-lang.org/…

– French Boiethios
8 hours ago




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Previous discussion: i.stack.imgur.com/Xt6L3.png

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Box<T> is basically *const T (Actually it's a newtype around Unique<T>, which itself is a NonNull<T> with PhantomData<T> (for dropck), but let's stick to *const T for simplicity).



A pointer in Rust normally has the same size as size_of::<usize>() except when T is a dynamically sized type (DST). Currently, a Box<DST> is 2 * size_of::<usize>() in size (the exact representation is not stable at the time of writing). A pointer to a DST is called FatPtr.



Currently, there are two kinds of DSTs: Slices and traits. A FatPtr to a slice is defined like this:



#[repr(C)]
struct FatPtr<T>
data: *const T,
len: usize,



Note: For a trait pointer, len is replaced by a pointer to the vtable.




  • Box<i8>: i8 is a sized type => basically the same as *const i8 => 8 bytes in size (on 64 bit)


  • Box<[i8]>: [i8] is a DST => basically the same as FatPtr<i8> => 16 bytes in size (on 64 bit)


  • Box<&[i8]>: &[i8] is not a DST. It's basically the same as *const FatPtr<i8> => 8 bytes in size (on 64 bit)





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    The size of a reference depends on the "sizeness" of the referenced type:



    • A reference to a sized type is a single pointer to the memory address.


    • A reference to an unsized type is a pointer to the memory and the size of the pointed datum. That's what is called a fat pointer:



      #[repr(C)]
      struct FatPtr<T>
      data: *const T,
      len: usize,



    A Box is a special kind of pointer that points to the heap, but it is a pointer anyway.



    Knowing that, you understand that:




    • Box<i8> is 8 bytes because i8 is sized,


    • Box<&[i8]> is 8 bytes because a reference is sized,


    • Box<[i8]> is 8 bytes because a slice is unsized





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    • Box<[i8]> is 16 in your own playground link

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    • @Stargateur I guess this was a typo :)

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    Box<T> is basically *const T (Actually it's a newtype around Unique<T>, which itself is a NonNull<T> with PhantomData<T> (for dropck), but let's stick to *const T for simplicity).



    A pointer in Rust normally has the same size as size_of::<usize>() except when T is a dynamically sized type (DST). Currently, a Box<DST> is 2 * size_of::<usize>() in size (the exact representation is not stable at the time of writing). A pointer to a DST is called FatPtr.



    Currently, there are two kinds of DSTs: Slices and traits. A FatPtr to a slice is defined like this:



    #[repr(C)]
    struct FatPtr<T>
    data: *const T,
    len: usize,



    Note: For a trait pointer, len is replaced by a pointer to the vtable.




    • Box<i8>: i8 is a sized type => basically the same as *const i8 => 8 bytes in size (on 64 bit)


    • Box<[i8]>: [i8] is a DST => basically the same as FatPtr<i8> => 16 bytes in size (on 64 bit)


    • Box<&[i8]>: &[i8] is not a DST. It's basically the same as *const FatPtr<i8> => 8 bytes in size (on 64 bit)





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      Box<T> is basically *const T (Actually it's a newtype around Unique<T>, which itself is a NonNull<T> with PhantomData<T> (for dropck), but let's stick to *const T for simplicity).



      A pointer in Rust normally has the same size as size_of::<usize>() except when T is a dynamically sized type (DST). Currently, a Box<DST> is 2 * size_of::<usize>() in size (the exact representation is not stable at the time of writing). A pointer to a DST is called FatPtr.



      Currently, there are two kinds of DSTs: Slices and traits. A FatPtr to a slice is defined like this:



      #[repr(C)]
      struct FatPtr<T>
      data: *const T,
      len: usize,



      Note: For a trait pointer, len is replaced by a pointer to the vtable.




      • Box<i8>: i8 is a sized type => basically the same as *const i8 => 8 bytes in size (on 64 bit)


      • Box<[i8]>: [i8] is a DST => basically the same as FatPtr<i8> => 16 bytes in size (on 64 bit)


      • Box<&[i8]>: &[i8] is not a DST. It's basically the same as *const FatPtr<i8> => 8 bytes in size (on 64 bit)





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        Box<T> is basically *const T (Actually it's a newtype around Unique<T>, which itself is a NonNull<T> with PhantomData<T> (for dropck), but let's stick to *const T for simplicity).



        A pointer in Rust normally has the same size as size_of::<usize>() except when T is a dynamically sized type (DST). Currently, a Box<DST> is 2 * size_of::<usize>() in size (the exact representation is not stable at the time of writing). A pointer to a DST is called FatPtr.



        Currently, there are two kinds of DSTs: Slices and traits. A FatPtr to a slice is defined like this:



        #[repr(C)]
        struct FatPtr<T>
        data: *const T,
        len: usize,



        Note: For a trait pointer, len is replaced by a pointer to the vtable.




        • Box<i8>: i8 is a sized type => basically the same as *const i8 => 8 bytes in size (on 64 bit)


        • Box<[i8]>: [i8] is a DST => basically the same as FatPtr<i8> => 16 bytes in size (on 64 bit)


        • Box<&[i8]>: &[i8] is not a DST. It's basically the same as *const FatPtr<i8> => 8 bytes in size (on 64 bit)





        share|improve this answer















        Box<T> is basically *const T (Actually it's a newtype around Unique<T>, which itself is a NonNull<T> with PhantomData<T> (for dropck), but let's stick to *const T for simplicity).



        A pointer in Rust normally has the same size as size_of::<usize>() except when T is a dynamically sized type (DST). Currently, a Box<DST> is 2 * size_of::<usize>() in size (the exact representation is not stable at the time of writing). A pointer to a DST is called FatPtr.



        Currently, there are two kinds of DSTs: Slices and traits. A FatPtr to a slice is defined like this:



        #[repr(C)]
        struct FatPtr<T>
        data: *const T,
        len: usize,



        Note: For a trait pointer, len is replaced by a pointer to the vtable.




        • Box<i8>: i8 is a sized type => basically the same as *const i8 => 8 bytes in size (on 64 bit)


        • Box<[i8]>: [i8] is a DST => basically the same as FatPtr<i8> => 16 bytes in size (on 64 bit)


        • Box<&[i8]>: &[i8] is not a DST. It's basically the same as *const FatPtr<i8> => 8 bytes in size (on 64 bit)






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            The size of a reference depends on the "sizeness" of the referenced type:



            • A reference to a sized type is a single pointer to the memory address.


            • A reference to an unsized type is a pointer to the memory and the size of the pointed datum. That's what is called a fat pointer:



              #[repr(C)]
              struct FatPtr<T>
              data: *const T,
              len: usize,



            A Box is a special kind of pointer that points to the heap, but it is a pointer anyway.



            Knowing that, you understand that:




            • Box<i8> is 8 bytes because i8 is sized,


            • Box<&[i8]> is 8 bytes because a reference is sized,


            • Box<[i8]> is 8 bytes because a slice is unsized





            share|improve this answer























            • Box<[i8]> is 16 in your own playground link

              – Stargateur
              1 hour ago











            • @Stargateur I guess this was a typo :)

              – Tim Diekmann
              1 hour ago















            2














            The size of a reference depends on the "sizeness" of the referenced type:



            • A reference to a sized type is a single pointer to the memory address.


            • A reference to an unsized type is a pointer to the memory and the size of the pointed datum. That's what is called a fat pointer:



              #[repr(C)]
              struct FatPtr<T>
              data: *const T,
              len: usize,



            A Box is a special kind of pointer that points to the heap, but it is a pointer anyway.



            Knowing that, you understand that:




            • Box<i8> is 8 bytes because i8 is sized,


            • Box<&[i8]> is 8 bytes because a reference is sized,


            • Box<[i8]> is 8 bytes because a slice is unsized





            share|improve this answer























            • Box<[i8]> is 16 in your own playground link

              – Stargateur
              1 hour ago











            • @Stargateur I guess this was a typo :)

              – Tim Diekmann
              1 hour ago













            2












            2








            2







            The size of a reference depends on the "sizeness" of the referenced type:



            • A reference to a sized type is a single pointer to the memory address.


            • A reference to an unsized type is a pointer to the memory and the size of the pointed datum. That's what is called a fat pointer:



              #[repr(C)]
              struct FatPtr<T>
              data: *const T,
              len: usize,



            A Box is a special kind of pointer that points to the heap, but it is a pointer anyway.



            Knowing that, you understand that:




            • Box<i8> is 8 bytes because i8 is sized,


            • Box<&[i8]> is 8 bytes because a reference is sized,


            • Box<[i8]> is 8 bytes because a slice is unsized





            share|improve this answer













            The size of a reference depends on the "sizeness" of the referenced type:



            • A reference to a sized type is a single pointer to the memory address.


            • A reference to an unsized type is a pointer to the memory and the size of the pointed datum. That's what is called a fat pointer:



              #[repr(C)]
              struct FatPtr<T>
              data: *const T,
              len: usize,



            A Box is a special kind of pointer that points to the heap, but it is a pointer anyway.



            Knowing that, you understand that:




            • Box<i8> is 8 bytes because i8 is sized,


            • Box<&[i8]> is 8 bytes because a reference is sized,


            • Box<[i8]> is 8 bytes because a slice is unsized






            share|improve this answer












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            • @Stargateur I guess this was a typo :)

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            • Box<[i8]> is 16 in your own playground link

              – Stargateur
              1 hour ago











            • @Stargateur I guess this was a typo :)

              – Tim Diekmann
              1 hour ago
















            Box<[i8]> is 16 in your own playground link

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            Box<[i8]> is 16 in your own playground link

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            @Stargateur I guess this was a typo :)

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