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Combinatorics- Stirling numbers of second kind



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I am looking for an approximation of $S(n,n/2)$ where $S$ denotes the second stirling numbers. The wikipedia article gives quite a few approximations but they do not fit my problem. I now tried to Plot the stirling numbers $S(n,n/2)$ in mathematica for $n$ up to about 10000 and fitted them. This way I received $log(S(n,n/2)) = 0.99n/2log(n/2) + + 0.82n - 0.62 log(n)$. This model fits pretty good however I have no idea how to justify it or how to approximate the value of $S(n,n/2)$ in another way. Thanks for any tips!!










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    I am looking for an approximation of $S(n,n/2)$ where $S$ denotes the second stirling numbers. The wikipedia article gives quite a few approximations but they do not fit my problem. I now tried to Plot the stirling numbers $S(n,n/2)$ in mathematica for $n$ up to about 10000 and fitted them. This way I received $log(S(n,n/2)) = 0.99n/2log(n/2) + + 0.82n - 0.62 log(n)$. This model fits pretty good however I have no idea how to justify it or how to approximate the value of $S(n,n/2)$ in another way. Thanks for any tips!!










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      I am looking for an approximation of $S(n,n/2)$ where $S$ denotes the second stirling numbers. The wikipedia article gives quite a few approximations but they do not fit my problem. I now tried to Plot the stirling numbers $S(n,n/2)$ in mathematica for $n$ up to about 10000 and fitted them. This way I received $log(S(n,n/2)) = 0.99n/2log(n/2) + + 0.82n - 0.62 log(n)$. This model fits pretty good however I have no idea how to justify it or how to approximate the value of $S(n,n/2)$ in another way. Thanks for any tips!!










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      I am looking for an approximation of $S(n,n/2)$ where $S$ denotes the second stirling numbers. The wikipedia article gives quite a few approximations but they do not fit my problem. I now tried to Plot the stirling numbers $S(n,n/2)$ in mathematica for $n$ up to about 10000 and fitted them. This way I received $log(S(n,n/2)) = 0.99n/2log(n/2) + + 0.82n - 0.62 log(n)$. This model fits pretty good however I have no idea how to justify it or how to approximate the value of $S(n,n/2)$ in another way. Thanks for any tips!!







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          Looking at sequence $A007820$ in $OEIS$, there is an asymptotics by Vaclav Kotesovec (2011) which write
          $$left{{2p atop p}right}simfrac{2^{2 p-frac{1}{2}} e^{-p} left(frac{p}{(2-z) z}right)^p}{sqrt{pi }
          sqrt{p (z-1)}}qquad text{where}qquad z=2+Wleft(-frac{2}{e^2}right)approx 1.59362$$ Replacing $z$ by its numerical value, this gives
          $$logleft(left{{2p atop p}right}right)approx p log (p)+0.820761 p-0.5 log (p)-0.658184$$



          Edit



          Repeating the curve fit for $100 leq pleq 5000$, what I obtained is
          $$logleft(left{{2p atop p}right}right)=1. p log (p)+0.820757 p-0.49903 log (p)-0.663801$$






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            Hi Claude, thanks for your answer!! I looked up that new paper, however honestly speaking I have difficulties understanding the Notation there. He seems to denote the stirling numbers by $S_{n,n+k}$ making the approximation you mention above. However I do not unterstand that, as $n+k$ can not be the second index of the stirling number, which should be less than the first
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            Mar 19 '17 at 10:49












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            or is the second index my first index and then you make the shift $n rightarrow n-k$?
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            Mar 19 '17 at 10:52










          • $begingroup$
            Thank you Claude for the info about this sequence
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            – user404302
            Mar 22 '17 at 9:20






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            You are welcome ! $OEIS$ is a fantastic place to visit, be sure.
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            – Claude Leibovici
            Mar 22 '17 at 9:26



















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          Wikipedia gives lower and upper bounds $L(n,k)$ and $U(n,k)$ for $left{n atop kright}$. For $k = frac n2$, dropping some less-significant factors in $L(n,k)$, we get $$left(frac{n}{2}right)^{n/2} < left{n atop n/2right} < binom{n}{n/2} left(frac{n}{2}right)^{n/2}$$
          so
          $$frac n2 log_2 frac n2 < log_2 left{n atop n/2right} < frac n2 log_2 frac n2 + n.$$



          This confirms at least the leading term of your estimate, though we need better bounds if we want to improve it and get the coefficient of $n$ right: these bounds are genuinely off by a factor of $2^n cdot operatorname{poly}(n)$, which is why I take the log base $2$ above.






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          For large $n$, and for $v=n/m $ constant,
          we have the following known precise asymptotic approximation (my deduction here):



          $$ S_{n,m} approx binom{n}{m} frac{(n-m)!}{sqrt{2 pi n (lambda -v+1)}}
          frac{(2-lambda)^m}{lambda^{n-m}} tag1$$



          where $lambda$ is the positive root of $ lambda = v (1-e^{-lambda}) $ (explicitly: $lambda=v+W(-v /e^{v})$ where $W()$ is the Lambert W function, first branch).



          In our case, with $n=2m$, $v=2$, $lambda= 1.593624260040cdots$, so



          $$ S_{2m,m}approx binom{2m}{m} frac{m!}{sqrt{4 pi m (lambda -1)}}frac{1}{(2lambda - lambda^2)^m} tag2$$



          Plugging the Stirling approximation for the factorials we get



          $$ log(S_{2m,m}) approx m log m + beta , m - frac12 log(m) + gamma + o(1) tag3$$
          with $beta = -log( frac{2 lambda -lambda^2}{4})-1 =0.820760609$, and
          $gamma = -frac12 log(2 pi ,(lambda-1)) = -0.65818417389$



          This coincides with Claude Leibovici's answer.



          Some computed values of $log(S_{2m,m})$ along with the approximation $(3)$:



           m    log(S)      approx     abs err
          10 29.408950 29.423980 0.015031
          20 74.166315 74.173807 0.007493
          40 177.879238 177.882979 0.003741
          60 292.198461 292.200954 0.002493
          80 413.371913 413.373782 0.001869
          100 539.630815 539.632310 0.001495
          120 669.937107 669.938352 0.001246
          140 803.606351 803.607419 0.001068
          160 940.152803 940.153737 0.000934
          180 1079.213650 1079.214480 0.000830
          200 1220.507505 1220.508252 0.000747





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            Looking at sequence $A007820$ in $OEIS$, there is an asymptotics by Vaclav Kotesovec (2011) which write
            $$left{{2p atop p}right}simfrac{2^{2 p-frac{1}{2}} e^{-p} left(frac{p}{(2-z) z}right)^p}{sqrt{pi }
            sqrt{p (z-1)}}qquad text{where}qquad z=2+Wleft(-frac{2}{e^2}right)approx 1.59362$$ Replacing $z$ by its numerical value, this gives
            $$logleft(left{{2p atop p}right}right)approx p log (p)+0.820761 p-0.5 log (p)-0.658184$$



            Edit



            Repeating the curve fit for $100 leq pleq 5000$, what I obtained is
            $$logleft(left{{2p atop p}right}right)=1. p log (p)+0.820757 p-0.49903 log (p)-0.663801$$






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            • $begingroup$
              Hi Claude, thanks for your answer!! I looked up that new paper, however honestly speaking I have difficulties understanding the Notation there. He seems to denote the stirling numbers by $S_{n,n+k}$ making the approximation you mention above. However I do not unterstand that, as $n+k$ can not be the second index of the stirling number, which should be less than the first
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              or is the second index my first index and then you make the shift $n rightarrow n-k$?
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              Mar 19 '17 at 10:52










            • $begingroup$
              Thank you Claude for the info about this sequence
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              – user404302
              Mar 22 '17 at 9:20






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              You are welcome ! $OEIS$ is a fantastic place to visit, be sure.
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              – Claude Leibovici
              Mar 22 '17 at 9:26
















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            $begingroup$

            Looking at sequence $A007820$ in $OEIS$, there is an asymptotics by Vaclav Kotesovec (2011) which write
            $$left{{2p atop p}right}simfrac{2^{2 p-frac{1}{2}} e^{-p} left(frac{p}{(2-z) z}right)^p}{sqrt{pi }
            sqrt{p (z-1)}}qquad text{where}qquad z=2+Wleft(-frac{2}{e^2}right)approx 1.59362$$ Replacing $z$ by its numerical value, this gives
            $$logleft(left{{2p atop p}right}right)approx p log (p)+0.820761 p-0.5 log (p)-0.658184$$



            Edit



            Repeating the curve fit for $100 leq pleq 5000$, what I obtained is
            $$logleft(left{{2p atop p}right}right)=1. p log (p)+0.820757 p-0.49903 log (p)-0.663801$$






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            • $begingroup$
              Hi Claude, thanks for your answer!! I looked up that new paper, however honestly speaking I have difficulties understanding the Notation there. He seems to denote the stirling numbers by $S_{n,n+k}$ making the approximation you mention above. However I do not unterstand that, as $n+k$ can not be the second index of the stirling number, which should be less than the first
              $endgroup$
              – user404302
              Mar 19 '17 at 10:49












            • $begingroup$
              or is the second index my first index and then you make the shift $n rightarrow n-k$?
              $endgroup$
              – user404302
              Mar 19 '17 at 10:52










            • $begingroup$
              Thank you Claude for the info about this sequence
              $endgroup$
              – user404302
              Mar 22 '17 at 9:20






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              You are welcome ! $OEIS$ is a fantastic place to visit, be sure.
              $endgroup$
              – Claude Leibovici
              Mar 22 '17 at 9:26














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            $begingroup$

            Looking at sequence $A007820$ in $OEIS$, there is an asymptotics by Vaclav Kotesovec (2011) which write
            $$left{{2p atop p}right}simfrac{2^{2 p-frac{1}{2}} e^{-p} left(frac{p}{(2-z) z}right)^p}{sqrt{pi }
            sqrt{p (z-1)}}qquad text{where}qquad z=2+Wleft(-frac{2}{e^2}right)approx 1.59362$$ Replacing $z$ by its numerical value, this gives
            $$logleft(left{{2p atop p}right}right)approx p log (p)+0.820761 p-0.5 log (p)-0.658184$$



            Edit



            Repeating the curve fit for $100 leq pleq 5000$, what I obtained is
            $$logleft(left{{2p atop p}right}right)=1. p log (p)+0.820757 p-0.49903 log (p)-0.663801$$






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            Looking at sequence $A007820$ in $OEIS$, there is an asymptotics by Vaclav Kotesovec (2011) which write
            $$left{{2p atop p}right}simfrac{2^{2 p-frac{1}{2}} e^{-p} left(frac{p}{(2-z) z}right)^p}{sqrt{pi }
            sqrt{p (z-1)}}qquad text{where}qquad z=2+Wleft(-frac{2}{e^2}right)approx 1.59362$$ Replacing $z$ by its numerical value, this gives
            $$logleft(left{{2p atop p}right}right)approx p log (p)+0.820761 p-0.5 log (p)-0.658184$$



            Edit



            Repeating the curve fit for $100 leq pleq 5000$, what I obtained is
            $$logleft(left{{2p atop p}right}right)=1. p log (p)+0.820757 p-0.49903 log (p)-0.663801$$







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            • $begingroup$
              Hi Claude, thanks for your answer!! I looked up that new paper, however honestly speaking I have difficulties understanding the Notation there. He seems to denote the stirling numbers by $S_{n,n+k}$ making the approximation you mention above. However I do not unterstand that, as $n+k$ can not be the second index of the stirling number, which should be less than the first
              $endgroup$
              – user404302
              Mar 19 '17 at 10:49












            • $begingroup$
              or is the second index my first index and then you make the shift $n rightarrow n-k$?
              $endgroup$
              – user404302
              Mar 19 '17 at 10:52










            • $begingroup$
              Thank you Claude for the info about this sequence
              $endgroup$
              – user404302
              Mar 22 '17 at 9:20






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              You are welcome ! $OEIS$ is a fantastic place to visit, be sure.
              $endgroup$
              – Claude Leibovici
              Mar 22 '17 at 9:26


















            • $begingroup$
              Hi Claude, thanks for your answer!! I looked up that new paper, however honestly speaking I have difficulties understanding the Notation there. He seems to denote the stirling numbers by $S_{n,n+k}$ making the approximation you mention above. However I do not unterstand that, as $n+k$ can not be the second index of the stirling number, which should be less than the first
              $endgroup$
              – user404302
              Mar 19 '17 at 10:49












            • $begingroup$
              or is the second index my first index and then you make the shift $n rightarrow n-k$?
              $endgroup$
              – user404302
              Mar 19 '17 at 10:52










            • $begingroup$
              Thank you Claude for the info about this sequence
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              – user404302
              Mar 22 '17 at 9:20






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              You are welcome ! $OEIS$ is a fantastic place to visit, be sure.
              $endgroup$
              – Claude Leibovici
              Mar 22 '17 at 9:26
















            $begingroup$
            Hi Claude, thanks for your answer!! I looked up that new paper, however honestly speaking I have difficulties understanding the Notation there. He seems to denote the stirling numbers by $S_{n,n+k}$ making the approximation you mention above. However I do not unterstand that, as $n+k$ can not be the second index of the stirling number, which should be less than the first
            $endgroup$
            – user404302
            Mar 19 '17 at 10:49






            $begingroup$
            Hi Claude, thanks for your answer!! I looked up that new paper, however honestly speaking I have difficulties understanding the Notation there. He seems to denote the stirling numbers by $S_{n,n+k}$ making the approximation you mention above. However I do not unterstand that, as $n+k$ can not be the second index of the stirling number, which should be less than the first
            $endgroup$
            – user404302
            Mar 19 '17 at 10:49














            $begingroup$
            or is the second index my first index and then you make the shift $n rightarrow n-k$?
            $endgroup$
            – user404302
            Mar 19 '17 at 10:52




            $begingroup$
            or is the second index my first index and then you make the shift $n rightarrow n-k$?
            $endgroup$
            – user404302
            Mar 19 '17 at 10:52












            $begingroup$
            Thank you Claude for the info about this sequence
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            – user404302
            Mar 22 '17 at 9:20




            $begingroup$
            Thank you Claude for the info about this sequence
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            Mar 22 '17 at 9:20




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            $begingroup$
            You are welcome ! $OEIS$ is a fantastic place to visit, be sure.
            $endgroup$
            – Claude Leibovici
            Mar 22 '17 at 9:26




            $begingroup$
            You are welcome ! $OEIS$ is a fantastic place to visit, be sure.
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            Mar 22 '17 at 9:26











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            Wikipedia gives lower and upper bounds $L(n,k)$ and $U(n,k)$ for $left{n atop kright}$. For $k = frac n2$, dropping some less-significant factors in $L(n,k)$, we get $$left(frac{n}{2}right)^{n/2} < left{n atop n/2right} < binom{n}{n/2} left(frac{n}{2}right)^{n/2}$$
            so
            $$frac n2 log_2 frac n2 < log_2 left{n atop n/2right} < frac n2 log_2 frac n2 + n.$$



            This confirms at least the leading term of your estimate, though we need better bounds if we want to improve it and get the coefficient of $n$ right: these bounds are genuinely off by a factor of $2^n cdot operatorname{poly}(n)$, which is why I take the log base $2$ above.






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              It already helps a lot, thank you!
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              Mar 19 '17 at 7:54
















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            $begingroup$

            Wikipedia gives lower and upper bounds $L(n,k)$ and $U(n,k)$ for $left{n atop kright}$. For $k = frac n2$, dropping some less-significant factors in $L(n,k)$, we get $$left(frac{n}{2}right)^{n/2} < left{n atop n/2right} < binom{n}{n/2} left(frac{n}{2}right)^{n/2}$$
            so
            $$frac n2 log_2 frac n2 < log_2 left{n atop n/2right} < frac n2 log_2 frac n2 + n.$$



            This confirms at least the leading term of your estimate, though we need better bounds if we want to improve it and get the coefficient of $n$ right: these bounds are genuinely off by a factor of $2^n cdot operatorname{poly}(n)$, which is why I take the log base $2$ above.






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              It already helps a lot, thank you!
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              Mar 19 '17 at 7:54














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            $begingroup$

            Wikipedia gives lower and upper bounds $L(n,k)$ and $U(n,k)$ for $left{n atop kright}$. For $k = frac n2$, dropping some less-significant factors in $L(n,k)$, we get $$left(frac{n}{2}right)^{n/2} < left{n atop n/2right} < binom{n}{n/2} left(frac{n}{2}right)^{n/2}$$
            so
            $$frac n2 log_2 frac n2 < log_2 left{n atop n/2right} < frac n2 log_2 frac n2 + n.$$



            This confirms at least the leading term of your estimate, though we need better bounds if we want to improve it and get the coefficient of $n$ right: these bounds are genuinely off by a factor of $2^n cdot operatorname{poly}(n)$, which is why I take the log base $2$ above.






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            Wikipedia gives lower and upper bounds $L(n,k)$ and $U(n,k)$ for $left{n atop kright}$. For $k = frac n2$, dropping some less-significant factors in $L(n,k)$, we get $$left(frac{n}{2}right)^{n/2} < left{n atop n/2right} < binom{n}{n/2} left(frac{n}{2}right)^{n/2}$$
            so
            $$frac n2 log_2 frac n2 < log_2 left{n atop n/2right} < frac n2 log_2 frac n2 + n.$$



            This confirms at least the leading term of your estimate, though we need better bounds if we want to improve it and get the coefficient of $n$ right: these bounds are genuinely off by a factor of $2^n cdot operatorname{poly}(n)$, which is why I take the log base $2$ above.







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            $begingroup$
            It already helps a lot, thank you!
            $endgroup$
            – user404302
            Mar 19 '17 at 7:54




            $begingroup$
            It already helps a lot, thank you!
            $endgroup$
            – user404302
            Mar 19 '17 at 7:54











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            $begingroup$

            For large $n$, and for $v=n/m $ constant,
            we have the following known precise asymptotic approximation (my deduction here):



            $$ S_{n,m} approx binom{n}{m} frac{(n-m)!}{sqrt{2 pi n (lambda -v+1)}}
            frac{(2-lambda)^m}{lambda^{n-m}} tag1$$



            where $lambda$ is the positive root of $ lambda = v (1-e^{-lambda}) $ (explicitly: $lambda=v+W(-v /e^{v})$ where $W()$ is the Lambert W function, first branch).



            In our case, with $n=2m$, $v=2$, $lambda= 1.593624260040cdots$, so



            $$ S_{2m,m}approx binom{2m}{m} frac{m!}{sqrt{4 pi m (lambda -1)}}frac{1}{(2lambda - lambda^2)^m} tag2$$



            Plugging the Stirling approximation for the factorials we get



            $$ log(S_{2m,m}) approx m log m + beta , m - frac12 log(m) + gamma + o(1) tag3$$
            with $beta = -log( frac{2 lambda -lambda^2}{4})-1 =0.820760609$, and
            $gamma = -frac12 log(2 pi ,(lambda-1)) = -0.65818417389$



            This coincides with Claude Leibovici's answer.



            Some computed values of $log(S_{2m,m})$ along with the approximation $(3)$:



             m    log(S)      approx     abs err
            10 29.408950 29.423980 0.015031
            20 74.166315 74.173807 0.007493
            40 177.879238 177.882979 0.003741
            60 292.198461 292.200954 0.002493
            80 413.371913 413.373782 0.001869
            100 539.630815 539.632310 0.001495
            120 669.937107 669.938352 0.001246
            140 803.606351 803.607419 0.001068
            160 940.152803 940.153737 0.000934
            180 1079.213650 1079.214480 0.000830
            200 1220.507505 1220.508252 0.000747





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              For large $n$, and for $v=n/m $ constant,
              we have the following known precise asymptotic approximation (my deduction here):



              $$ S_{n,m} approx binom{n}{m} frac{(n-m)!}{sqrt{2 pi n (lambda -v+1)}}
              frac{(2-lambda)^m}{lambda^{n-m}} tag1$$



              where $lambda$ is the positive root of $ lambda = v (1-e^{-lambda}) $ (explicitly: $lambda=v+W(-v /e^{v})$ where $W()$ is the Lambert W function, first branch).



              In our case, with $n=2m$, $v=2$, $lambda= 1.593624260040cdots$, so



              $$ S_{2m,m}approx binom{2m}{m} frac{m!}{sqrt{4 pi m (lambda -1)}}frac{1}{(2lambda - lambda^2)^m} tag2$$



              Plugging the Stirling approximation for the factorials we get



              $$ log(S_{2m,m}) approx m log m + beta , m - frac12 log(m) + gamma + o(1) tag3$$
              with $beta = -log( frac{2 lambda -lambda^2}{4})-1 =0.820760609$, and
              $gamma = -frac12 log(2 pi ,(lambda-1)) = -0.65818417389$



              This coincides with Claude Leibovici's answer.



              Some computed values of $log(S_{2m,m})$ along with the approximation $(3)$:



               m    log(S)      approx     abs err
              10 29.408950 29.423980 0.015031
              20 74.166315 74.173807 0.007493
              40 177.879238 177.882979 0.003741
              60 292.198461 292.200954 0.002493
              80 413.371913 413.373782 0.001869
              100 539.630815 539.632310 0.001495
              120 669.937107 669.938352 0.001246
              140 803.606351 803.607419 0.001068
              160 940.152803 940.153737 0.000934
              180 1079.213650 1079.214480 0.000830
              200 1220.507505 1220.508252 0.000747





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                $begingroup$

                For large $n$, and for $v=n/m $ constant,
                we have the following known precise asymptotic approximation (my deduction here):



                $$ S_{n,m} approx binom{n}{m} frac{(n-m)!}{sqrt{2 pi n (lambda -v+1)}}
                frac{(2-lambda)^m}{lambda^{n-m}} tag1$$



                where $lambda$ is the positive root of $ lambda = v (1-e^{-lambda}) $ (explicitly: $lambda=v+W(-v /e^{v})$ where $W()$ is the Lambert W function, first branch).



                In our case, with $n=2m$, $v=2$, $lambda= 1.593624260040cdots$, so



                $$ S_{2m,m}approx binom{2m}{m} frac{m!}{sqrt{4 pi m (lambda -1)}}frac{1}{(2lambda - lambda^2)^m} tag2$$



                Plugging the Stirling approximation for the factorials we get



                $$ log(S_{2m,m}) approx m log m + beta , m - frac12 log(m) + gamma + o(1) tag3$$
                with $beta = -log( frac{2 lambda -lambda^2}{4})-1 =0.820760609$, and
                $gamma = -frac12 log(2 pi ,(lambda-1)) = -0.65818417389$



                This coincides with Claude Leibovici's answer.



                Some computed values of $log(S_{2m,m})$ along with the approximation $(3)$:



                 m    log(S)      approx     abs err
                10 29.408950 29.423980 0.015031
                20 74.166315 74.173807 0.007493
                40 177.879238 177.882979 0.003741
                60 292.198461 292.200954 0.002493
                80 413.371913 413.373782 0.001869
                100 539.630815 539.632310 0.001495
                120 669.937107 669.938352 0.001246
                140 803.606351 803.607419 0.001068
                160 940.152803 940.153737 0.000934
                180 1079.213650 1079.214480 0.000830
                200 1220.507505 1220.508252 0.000747





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                For large $n$, and for $v=n/m $ constant,
                we have the following known precise asymptotic approximation (my deduction here):



                $$ S_{n,m} approx binom{n}{m} frac{(n-m)!}{sqrt{2 pi n (lambda -v+1)}}
                frac{(2-lambda)^m}{lambda^{n-m}} tag1$$



                where $lambda$ is the positive root of $ lambda = v (1-e^{-lambda}) $ (explicitly: $lambda=v+W(-v /e^{v})$ where $W()$ is the Lambert W function, first branch).



                In our case, with $n=2m$, $v=2$, $lambda= 1.593624260040cdots$, so



                $$ S_{2m,m}approx binom{2m}{m} frac{m!}{sqrt{4 pi m (lambda -1)}}frac{1}{(2lambda - lambda^2)^m} tag2$$



                Plugging the Stirling approximation for the factorials we get



                $$ log(S_{2m,m}) approx m log m + beta , m - frac12 log(m) + gamma + o(1) tag3$$
                with $beta = -log( frac{2 lambda -lambda^2}{4})-1 =0.820760609$, and
                $gamma = -frac12 log(2 pi ,(lambda-1)) = -0.65818417389$



                This coincides with Claude Leibovici's answer.



                Some computed values of $log(S_{2m,m})$ along with the approximation $(3)$:



                 m    log(S)      approx     abs err
                10 29.408950 29.423980 0.015031
                20 74.166315 74.173807 0.007493
                40 177.879238 177.882979 0.003741
                60 292.198461 292.200954 0.002493
                80 413.371913 413.373782 0.001869
                100 539.630815 539.632310 0.001495
                120 669.937107 669.938352 0.001246
                140 803.606351 803.607419 0.001068
                160 940.152803 940.153737 0.000934
                180 1079.213650 1079.214480 0.000830
                200 1220.507505 1220.508252 0.000747






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