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I need a little support in the following proposition:
Let $(x_n)$ be a convergene sequence in $mathbb{R}$ and $x_n rightarrow a $ and $x_n rightarrow b $ , then $a=b$
My proof is:
Consider $|a-b| = |a-x_n + x_n-b| le |a-x_n| + |x_n-b| < frac{epsilon}{2} + frac{epsilon}{2} = epsilon$
so it follows tat $|a-b| <epsilon$ then $a = b$
is that correct?
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I need a little support in the following proposition:
Let $(x_n)$ be a convergene sequence in $mathbb{R}$ and $x_n rightarrow a $ and $x_n rightarrow b $ , then $a=b$
My proof is:
Consider $|a-b| = |a-x_n + x_n-b| le |a-x_n| + |x_n-b| < frac{epsilon}{2} + frac{epsilon}{2} = epsilon$
so it follows tat $|a-b| <epsilon$ then $a = b$
is that correct?
real-analysis
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The idea is correct but the proof is incomplete.
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– mfl
Mar 26 at 0:44
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what is missing?
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– José Marín
Mar 26 at 0:44
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You haven't ever defined a symbol. You didn't make any assumptions about $epsilon$, you haven't connected it with the sequence ${x_n}$, you haven't stated that $|a - b| < epsilon$ holds for all positive $epsilon$... Essentially all of the explanation of the proof is missing here.
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– T. Bongers
Mar 26 at 0:48
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I see. But if I add those details it will be ok, right?
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– José Marín
Mar 26 at 0:53
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I need a little support in the following proposition:
Let $(x_n)$ be a convergene sequence in $mathbb{R}$ and $x_n rightarrow a $ and $x_n rightarrow b $ , then $a=b$
My proof is:
Consider $|a-b| = |a-x_n + x_n-b| le |a-x_n| + |x_n-b| < frac{epsilon}{2} + frac{epsilon}{2} = epsilon$
so it follows tat $|a-b| <epsilon$ then $a = b$
is that correct?
real-analysis
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I need a little support in the following proposition:
Let $(x_n)$ be a convergene sequence in $mathbb{R}$ and $x_n rightarrow a $ and $x_n rightarrow b $ , then $a=b$
My proof is:
Consider $|a-b| = |a-x_n + x_n-b| le |a-x_n| + |x_n-b| < frac{epsilon}{2} + frac{epsilon}{2} = epsilon$
so it follows tat $|a-b| <epsilon$ then $a = b$
is that correct?
real-analysis
real-analysis
edited Mar 26 at 0:46
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asked Mar 26 at 0:40
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The idea is correct but the proof is incomplete.
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– mfl
Mar 26 at 0:44
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what is missing?
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– José Marín
Mar 26 at 0:44
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You haven't ever defined a symbol. You didn't make any assumptions about $epsilon$, you haven't connected it with the sequence ${x_n}$, you haven't stated that $|a - b| < epsilon$ holds for all positive $epsilon$... Essentially all of the explanation of the proof is missing here.
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– T. Bongers
Mar 26 at 0:48
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I see. But if I add those details it will be ok, right?
$endgroup$
– José Marín
Mar 26 at 0:53
add a comment |
1
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The idea is correct but the proof is incomplete.
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– mfl
Mar 26 at 0:44
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what is missing?
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– José Marín
Mar 26 at 0:44
2
$begingroup$
You haven't ever defined a symbol. You didn't make any assumptions about $epsilon$, you haven't connected it with the sequence ${x_n}$, you haven't stated that $|a - b| < epsilon$ holds for all positive $epsilon$... Essentially all of the explanation of the proof is missing here.
$endgroup$
– T. Bongers
Mar 26 at 0:48
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I see. But if I add those details it will be ok, right?
$endgroup$
– José Marín
Mar 26 at 0:53
1
1
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The idea is correct but the proof is incomplete.
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– mfl
Mar 26 at 0:44
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The idea is correct but the proof is incomplete.
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– mfl
Mar 26 at 0:44
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what is missing?
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– José Marín
Mar 26 at 0:44
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what is missing?
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– José Marín
Mar 26 at 0:44
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2
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You haven't ever defined a symbol. You didn't make any assumptions about $epsilon$, you haven't connected it with the sequence ${x_n}$, you haven't stated that $|a - b| < epsilon$ holds for all positive $epsilon$... Essentially all of the explanation of the proof is missing here.
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– T. Bongers
Mar 26 at 0:48
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You haven't ever defined a symbol. You didn't make any assumptions about $epsilon$, you haven't connected it with the sequence ${x_n}$, you haven't stated that $|a - b| < epsilon$ holds for all positive $epsilon$... Essentially all of the explanation of the proof is missing here.
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– T. Bongers
Mar 26 at 0:48
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I see. But if I add those details it will be ok, right?
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– José Marín
Mar 26 at 0:53
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I see. But if I add those details it will be ok, right?
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– José Marín
Mar 26 at 0:53
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The idea behind your proof is correct but it lacks a certain formality. Namely, you have not specified the value of $n$ you are using when discussing $x_n$! Below, we make the proof formal.
Let $epsilon > 0$ be given, our goal is to show that $|a-b| < epsilon$. Since $x_n to a$, there exists $N_1 geq 1$ such that
$$
|x_n- a| < frac{epsilon}{2}
$$
for all $n geq N_1$. Similarly, because $x_n to b$, there is $N_2 in mathbb{N}$ with the property that
$$|x_n - b| <frac{epsilon}{2}
$$
for all $n geq N_2$. Now, if $N := max(N_1,N_2)$ and $n geq N$, we have by the triangle inequality that
begin{align*}
|a-b| leq |a-x_n| + |x_n - b| < frac{epsilon}{2} + frac{epsilon}{2} = epsilon.
end{align*}
Hence, $|a-b| < epsilon$. Using that $epsilon >0$ was arbitrary, it follows that $a=b$.
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The idea behind your proof is correct but it lacks a certain formality. Namely, you have not specified the value of $n$ you are using when discussing $x_n$! Below, we make the proof formal.
Let $epsilon > 0$ be given, our goal is to show that $|a-b| < epsilon$. Since $x_n to a$, there exists $N_1 geq 1$ such that
$$
|x_n- a| < frac{epsilon}{2}
$$
for all $n geq N_1$. Similarly, because $x_n to b$, there is $N_2 in mathbb{N}$ with the property that
$$|x_n - b| <frac{epsilon}{2}
$$
for all $n geq N_2$. Now, if $N := max(N_1,N_2)$ and $n geq N$, we have by the triangle inequality that
begin{align*}
|a-b| leq |a-x_n| + |x_n - b| < frac{epsilon}{2} + frac{epsilon}{2} = epsilon.
end{align*}
Hence, $|a-b| < epsilon$. Using that $epsilon >0$ was arbitrary, it follows that $a=b$.
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The idea behind your proof is correct but it lacks a certain formality. Namely, you have not specified the value of $n$ you are using when discussing $x_n$! Below, we make the proof formal.
Let $epsilon > 0$ be given, our goal is to show that $|a-b| < epsilon$. Since $x_n to a$, there exists $N_1 geq 1$ such that
$$
|x_n- a| < frac{epsilon}{2}
$$
for all $n geq N_1$. Similarly, because $x_n to b$, there is $N_2 in mathbb{N}$ with the property that
$$|x_n - b| <frac{epsilon}{2}
$$
for all $n geq N_2$. Now, if $N := max(N_1,N_2)$ and $n geq N$, we have by the triangle inequality that
begin{align*}
|a-b| leq |a-x_n| + |x_n - b| < frac{epsilon}{2} + frac{epsilon}{2} = epsilon.
end{align*}
Hence, $|a-b| < epsilon$. Using that $epsilon >0$ was arbitrary, it follows that $a=b$.
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The idea behind your proof is correct but it lacks a certain formality. Namely, you have not specified the value of $n$ you are using when discussing $x_n$! Below, we make the proof formal.
Let $epsilon > 0$ be given, our goal is to show that $|a-b| < epsilon$. Since $x_n to a$, there exists $N_1 geq 1$ such that
$$
|x_n- a| < frac{epsilon}{2}
$$
for all $n geq N_1$. Similarly, because $x_n to b$, there is $N_2 in mathbb{N}$ with the property that
$$|x_n - b| <frac{epsilon}{2}
$$
for all $n geq N_2$. Now, if $N := max(N_1,N_2)$ and $n geq N$, we have by the triangle inequality that
begin{align*}
|a-b| leq |a-x_n| + |x_n - b| < frac{epsilon}{2} + frac{epsilon}{2} = epsilon.
end{align*}
Hence, $|a-b| < epsilon$. Using that $epsilon >0$ was arbitrary, it follows that $a=b$.
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The idea behind your proof is correct but it lacks a certain formality. Namely, you have not specified the value of $n$ you are using when discussing $x_n$! Below, we make the proof formal.
Let $epsilon > 0$ be given, our goal is to show that $|a-b| < epsilon$. Since $x_n to a$, there exists $N_1 geq 1$ such that
$$
|x_n- a| < frac{epsilon}{2}
$$
for all $n geq N_1$. Similarly, because $x_n to b$, there is $N_2 in mathbb{N}$ with the property that
$$|x_n - b| <frac{epsilon}{2}
$$
for all $n geq N_2$. Now, if $N := max(N_1,N_2)$ and $n geq N$, we have by the triangle inequality that
begin{align*}
|a-b| leq |a-x_n| + |x_n - b| < frac{epsilon}{2} + frac{epsilon}{2} = epsilon.
end{align*}
Hence, $|a-b| < epsilon$. Using that $epsilon >0$ was arbitrary, it follows that $a=b$.
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You haven't ever defined a symbol. You didn't make any assumptions about $epsilon$, you haven't connected it with the sequence ${x_n}$, you haven't stated that $|a - b| < epsilon$ holds for all positive $epsilon$... Essentially all of the explanation of the proof is missing here.
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I see. But if I add those details it will be ok, right?
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