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Complex numbers $z=-3-4i$ polar form
Expressing $e^z$ where $z=a+bi$ in polar form.Polar form of Complex numbersConverting to polar formComplex number polar form equationWhy is e used for polar form of complex numbers?Show $-27$ in polar form.writing in polar form (complex numbers)Are all complex exponentials in polar form?Complex numbers polar form changeDifferentiating polar functions using complex numbers
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Let $z=-3-4i$ . In polar form this becomes $[5, 233° ]$. The question then asks for $z^2$, so the polar form becomes $[25,466]$ However in the solution they did $466° -360° $ and I am unsure why they did this. Is it a rule that needs to be applied.
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Let $z=-3-4i$ . In polar form this becomes $[5, 233° ]$. The question then asks for $z^2$, so the polar form becomes $[25,466]$ However in the solution they did $466° -360° $ and I am unsure why they did this. Is it a rule that needs to be applied.
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Let $z=-3-4i$ . In polar form this becomes $[5, 233° ]$. The question then asks for $z^2$, so the polar form becomes $[25,466]$ However in the solution they did $466° -360° $ and I am unsure why they did this. Is it a rule that needs to be applied.
complex-numbers polar-coordinates
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Let $z=-3-4i$ . In polar form this becomes $[5, 233° ]$. The question then asks for $z^2$, so the polar form becomes $[25,466]$ However in the solution they did $466° -360° $ and I am unsure why they did this. Is it a rule that needs to be applied.
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It's because$$cos(x-360^circ)=cos(x)text and sin(x-360^circ)=sin(x).$$
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Usually I don't do this when I get the degree, why is it that in this case I needed to do this?
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– user221435
9 hours ago
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We don't need to do this, but we usually try to work with angles in the range $[0^circ,360^circ)$.
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– José Carlos Santos
9 hours ago
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Great, thank you
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– user221435
9 hours ago
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@ThomasWeller this is not exactly right. In the case above, the value measured in degrees is an angle, which should always be in the range given. In modelers and animators, the value given is something like angular distance (ie the some of the absolute values of changes in angle over time) which happens to be measured in the same units as angles (degrees, radians), but is not the same type of value. Because of this, applying trigonometric functions to angular distances is not meaningful (without further assumptions)
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– DreamConspiracy
6 hours ago
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Being very fond of the geometrical plane of complex numbers, I feel that this is backwards (if not formally, then at least intuitively). In my opinion, $sin$ and $cos$ are unchanged after increasing or decreasing an angle by $360^circ$ because turning something $360^circ$ around the origin puts it back where you started. This sounds more like you're saying that turning something $360^circ$ around the origin gives you what you started because $sin$ and $cos$ are unchanged.
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The polar form of a complex number is given by a distance from the origin and an angle against the positive real axis ("$x$-axis"). Increasing or decreasing this angle by $360^circ$ will result in the same point. So adding or subtracting multiples of $360^circ$ from the angle component of a set of polar coordinates will not change which point those coordinates represent.
By convention, we usually like this angle to be either in the range $[0^circ, 360^circ)$ or $(-180^circ, 180^circ]$. This is not a requirement by any means (unless explicitly stated in the exercise), but it's easier to tell by a glance what direction from the origin is represented by an angle of $270^circ$ than by $2430^circ$. So there is some merit to keeping the numbers small.
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It is just to get the principal value of the angle, since if you rotate by an angle $466^circ$ you'll get to the same position as rotating $106^circ$ so we usually take the smallest angle that is needed to arrive at the desired position.
The principal angle is an angle between $-180^circ$ and $+180^circ$
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Acomment above shows the range [0∘,360). Curious why the difference.
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It's because$$cos(x-360^circ)=cos(x)text and sin(x-360^circ)=sin(x).$$
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Usually I don't do this when I get the degree, why is it that in this case I needed to do this?
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– user221435
9 hours ago
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We don't need to do this, but we usually try to work with angles in the range $[0^circ,360^circ)$.
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– José Carlos Santos
9 hours ago
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Great, thank you
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– user221435
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@ThomasWeller this is not exactly right. In the case above, the value measured in degrees is an angle, which should always be in the range given. In modelers and animators, the value given is something like angular distance (ie the some of the absolute values of changes in angle over time) which happens to be measured in the same units as angles (degrees, radians), but is not the same type of value. Because of this, applying trigonometric functions to angular distances is not meaningful (without further assumptions)
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– DreamConspiracy
6 hours ago
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Being very fond of the geometrical plane of complex numbers, I feel that this is backwards (if not formally, then at least intuitively). In my opinion, $sin$ and $cos$ are unchanged after increasing or decreasing an angle by $360^circ$ because turning something $360^circ$ around the origin puts it back where you started. This sounds more like you're saying that turning something $360^circ$ around the origin gives you what you started because $sin$ and $cos$ are unchanged.
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It's because$$cos(x-360^circ)=cos(x)text and sin(x-360^circ)=sin(x).$$
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Usually I don't do this when I get the degree, why is it that in this case I needed to do this?
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– user221435
9 hours ago
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We don't need to do this, but we usually try to work with angles in the range $[0^circ,360^circ)$.
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– José Carlos Santos
9 hours ago
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Great, thank you
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– user221435
9 hours ago
2
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@ThomasWeller this is not exactly right. In the case above, the value measured in degrees is an angle, which should always be in the range given. In modelers and animators, the value given is something like angular distance (ie the some of the absolute values of changes in angle over time) which happens to be measured in the same units as angles (degrees, radians), but is not the same type of value. Because of this, applying trigonometric functions to angular distances is not meaningful (without further assumptions)
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– DreamConspiracy
6 hours ago
2
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Being very fond of the geometrical plane of complex numbers, I feel that this is backwards (if not formally, then at least intuitively). In my opinion, $sin$ and $cos$ are unchanged after increasing or decreasing an angle by $360^circ$ because turning something $360^circ$ around the origin puts it back where you started. This sounds more like you're saying that turning something $360^circ$ around the origin gives you what you started because $sin$ and $cos$ are unchanged.
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It's because$$cos(x-360^circ)=cos(x)text and sin(x-360^circ)=sin(x).$$
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It's because$$cos(x-360^circ)=cos(x)text and sin(x-360^circ)=sin(x).$$
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Usually I don't do this when I get the degree, why is it that in this case I needed to do this?
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– user221435
9 hours ago
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We don't need to do this, but we usually try to work with angles in the range $[0^circ,360^circ)$.
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– José Carlos Santos
9 hours ago
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Great, thank you
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– user221435
9 hours ago
2
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@ThomasWeller this is not exactly right. In the case above, the value measured in degrees is an angle, which should always be in the range given. In modelers and animators, the value given is something like angular distance (ie the some of the absolute values of changes in angle over time) which happens to be measured in the same units as angles (degrees, radians), but is not the same type of value. Because of this, applying trigonometric functions to angular distances is not meaningful (without further assumptions)
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– DreamConspiracy
6 hours ago
2
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Being very fond of the geometrical plane of complex numbers, I feel that this is backwards (if not formally, then at least intuitively). In my opinion, $sin$ and $cos$ are unchanged after increasing or decreasing an angle by $360^circ$ because turning something $360^circ$ around the origin puts it back where you started. This sounds more like you're saying that turning something $360^circ$ around the origin gives you what you started because $sin$ and $cos$ are unchanged.
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– Arthur
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Usually I don't do this when I get the degree, why is it that in this case I needed to do this?
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– user221435
9 hours ago
4
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We don't need to do this, but we usually try to work with angles in the range $[0^circ,360^circ)$.
$endgroup$
– José Carlos Santos
9 hours ago
$begingroup$
Great, thank you
$endgroup$
– user221435
9 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@ThomasWeller this is not exactly right. In the case above, the value measured in degrees is an angle, which should always be in the range given. In modelers and animators, the value given is something like angular distance (ie the some of the absolute values of changes in angle over time) which happens to be measured in the same units as angles (degrees, radians), but is not the same type of value. Because of this, applying trigonometric functions to angular distances is not meaningful (without further assumptions)
$endgroup$
– DreamConspiracy
6 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
Being very fond of the geometrical plane of complex numbers, I feel that this is backwards (if not formally, then at least intuitively). In my opinion, $sin$ and $cos$ are unchanged after increasing or decreasing an angle by $360^circ$ because turning something $360^circ$ around the origin puts it back where you started. This sounds more like you're saying that turning something $360^circ$ around the origin gives you what you started because $sin$ and $cos$ are unchanged.
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– Arthur
6 hours ago
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Usually I don't do this when I get the degree, why is it that in this case I needed to do this?
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– user221435
9 hours ago
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Usually I don't do this when I get the degree, why is it that in this case I needed to do this?
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– user221435
9 hours ago
4
4
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We don't need to do this, but we usually try to work with angles in the range $[0^circ,360^circ)$.
$endgroup$
– José Carlos Santos
9 hours ago
$begingroup$
We don't need to do this, but we usually try to work with angles in the range $[0^circ,360^circ)$.
$endgroup$
– José Carlos Santos
9 hours ago
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Great, thank you
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– user221435
9 hours ago
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Great, thank you
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– user221435
9 hours ago
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2
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@ThomasWeller this is not exactly right. In the case above, the value measured in degrees is an angle, which should always be in the range given. In modelers and animators, the value given is something like angular distance (ie the some of the absolute values of changes in angle over time) which happens to be measured in the same units as angles (degrees, radians), but is not the same type of value. Because of this, applying trigonometric functions to angular distances is not meaningful (without further assumptions)
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– DreamConspiracy
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
@ThomasWeller this is not exactly right. In the case above, the value measured in degrees is an angle, which should always be in the range given. In modelers and animators, the value given is something like angular distance (ie the some of the absolute values of changes in angle over time) which happens to be measured in the same units as angles (degrees, radians), but is not the same type of value. Because of this, applying trigonometric functions to angular distances is not meaningful (without further assumptions)
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– DreamConspiracy
6 hours ago
2
2
$begingroup$
Being very fond of the geometrical plane of complex numbers, I feel that this is backwards (if not formally, then at least intuitively). In my opinion, $sin$ and $cos$ are unchanged after increasing or decreasing an angle by $360^circ$ because turning something $360^circ$ around the origin puts it back where you started. This sounds more like you're saying that turning something $360^circ$ around the origin gives you what you started because $sin$ and $cos$ are unchanged.
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– Arthur
6 hours ago
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Being very fond of the geometrical plane of complex numbers, I feel that this is backwards (if not formally, then at least intuitively). In my opinion, $sin$ and $cos$ are unchanged after increasing or decreasing an angle by $360^circ$ because turning something $360^circ$ around the origin puts it back where you started. This sounds more like you're saying that turning something $360^circ$ around the origin gives you what you started because $sin$ and $cos$ are unchanged.
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– Arthur
6 hours ago
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show 1 more comment
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The polar form of a complex number is given by a distance from the origin and an angle against the positive real axis ("$x$-axis"). Increasing or decreasing this angle by $360^circ$ will result in the same point. So adding or subtracting multiples of $360^circ$ from the angle component of a set of polar coordinates will not change which point those coordinates represent.
By convention, we usually like this angle to be either in the range $[0^circ, 360^circ)$ or $(-180^circ, 180^circ]$. This is not a requirement by any means (unless explicitly stated in the exercise), but it's easier to tell by a glance what direction from the origin is represented by an angle of $270^circ$ than by $2430^circ$. So there is some merit to keeping the numbers small.
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$begingroup$
The polar form of a complex number is given by a distance from the origin and an angle against the positive real axis ("$x$-axis"). Increasing or decreasing this angle by $360^circ$ will result in the same point. So adding or subtracting multiples of $360^circ$ from the angle component of a set of polar coordinates will not change which point those coordinates represent.
By convention, we usually like this angle to be either in the range $[0^circ, 360^circ)$ or $(-180^circ, 180^circ]$. This is not a requirement by any means (unless explicitly stated in the exercise), but it's easier to tell by a glance what direction from the origin is represented by an angle of $270^circ$ than by $2430^circ$. So there is some merit to keeping the numbers small.
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$begingroup$
The polar form of a complex number is given by a distance from the origin and an angle against the positive real axis ("$x$-axis"). Increasing or decreasing this angle by $360^circ$ will result in the same point. So adding or subtracting multiples of $360^circ$ from the angle component of a set of polar coordinates will not change which point those coordinates represent.
By convention, we usually like this angle to be either in the range $[0^circ, 360^circ)$ or $(-180^circ, 180^circ]$. This is not a requirement by any means (unless explicitly stated in the exercise), but it's easier to tell by a glance what direction from the origin is represented by an angle of $270^circ$ than by $2430^circ$. So there is some merit to keeping the numbers small.
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The polar form of a complex number is given by a distance from the origin and an angle against the positive real axis ("$x$-axis"). Increasing or decreasing this angle by $360^circ$ will result in the same point. So adding or subtracting multiples of $360^circ$ from the angle component of a set of polar coordinates will not change which point those coordinates represent.
By convention, we usually like this angle to be either in the range $[0^circ, 360^circ)$ or $(-180^circ, 180^circ]$. This is not a requirement by any means (unless explicitly stated in the exercise), but it's easier to tell by a glance what direction from the origin is represented by an angle of $270^circ$ than by $2430^circ$. So there is some merit to keeping the numbers small.
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It is just to get the principal value of the angle, since if you rotate by an angle $466^circ$ you'll get to the same position as rotating $106^circ$ so we usually take the smallest angle that is needed to arrive at the desired position.
The principal angle is an angle between $-180^circ$ and $+180^circ$
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Acomment above shows the range [0∘,360). Curious why the difference.
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– JoeTaxpayer
3 hours ago
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It is just to get the principal value of the angle, since if you rotate by an angle $466^circ$ you'll get to the same position as rotating $106^circ$ so we usually take the smallest angle that is needed to arrive at the desired position.
The principal angle is an angle between $-180^circ$ and $+180^circ$
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Acomment above shows the range [0∘,360). Curious why the difference.
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– JoeTaxpayer
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It is just to get the principal value of the angle, since if you rotate by an angle $466^circ$ you'll get to the same position as rotating $106^circ$ so we usually take the smallest angle that is needed to arrive at the desired position.
The principal angle is an angle between $-180^circ$ and $+180^circ$
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It is just to get the principal value of the angle, since if you rotate by an angle $466^circ$ you'll get to the same position as rotating $106^circ$ so we usually take the smallest angle that is needed to arrive at the desired position.
The principal angle is an angle between $-180^circ$ and $+180^circ$
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Acomment above shows the range [0∘,360). Curious why the difference.
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Acomment above shows the range [0∘,360). Curious why the difference.
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– JoeTaxpayer
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Acomment above shows the range [0∘,360). Curious why the difference.
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Acomment above shows the range [0∘,360). Curious why the difference.
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