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Prove that the countable union of countable sets is also countable


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I know this seems like a repeated question, but what I find the other answers laking is how they are dealing with the fact that our sets aren't mutually disjoint. If anyone could explain how the inductive proof ( or if there is another way to prove this) handles this fact it would be greatly appreciated.



Proposition: Let $A$ be a countable family of sets. Assume that each set in $A$ is countable. Prove that the set $U$ = $A : A in$ the family of sets also countable.










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    What's your definition of countable? Are you happy that a set $A$ is countable if and only if there exists an injective map $f : A to mathbbN$?
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I know this seems like a repeated question, but what I find the other answers laking is how they are dealing with the fact that our sets aren't mutually disjoint. If anyone could explain how the inductive proof ( or if there is another way to prove this) handles this fact it would be greatly appreciated.



Proposition: Let $A$ be a countable family of sets. Assume that each set in $A$ is countable. Prove that the set $U$ = $A : A in$ the family of sets also countable.










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Proposition: Let $A$ be a countable family of sets. Assume that each set in $A$ is countable. Prove that the set $U$ = $A : A in$ the family of sets also countable.










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Proposition: Let $A$ be a countable family of sets. Assume that each set in $A$ is countable. Prove that the set $U$ = $A : A in$ the family of sets also countable.







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As long as it is a countable family, we don't require them to be pairwise disjoint. To see how to generalize the answers in the other posts, suppose that $$mathcalA=A_n:ninBbb N,$$ and consider the family $$mathcalB=B_n:ninBbb N$$ with the sets $B_n$ defined recursively as follows:




  • $B_1:=A_1$ (or $B_0:=A_0$ if $0inBbb N$ for you),

  • $B_n+1:=A_n+1smallsetminusbigcup_kle nA_k.$

This is known as a "disjointification." The union of the sets in $mathcalB$ is the same as the union of the sets in $mathcalA,$ but the sets of $mathcalB$ are pairwise disjoint.



In many cases, if we can prove something about a union of (countably-many) disjoint sets, each of which has some property/properties (such as countability or measurability), this trick will allow us to generalize the proof to unions of (countably-many) arbitrary sets with said property/properties.






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Hint: Suppose
$$mathcalA = bigcup_n=1^infty A_n$$
where each $A_k$ is countable. If these $A_k$ are not disjoint then, by setting $B_k = A_k backslash cup_j=1^k-1 A_j$ you can write $mathcalA$ as a countable disjoint union in the following way,
$$mathcalA = bigcup_n=1^infty B_n.$$
The $B_k$ are countable because the $A_k$ are (can you prove this?).



This shows that you can assume that the countable union is disjoint - the other arguments that you've seen can now be applied. I hope this helps!






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    Given a sequence $(A_n)_ninmathbb N$ of countable sets, the usual proof defines a map from $mathbb N$ onto $bigcup_ninmathbb NA_n$. In fact, if the $A_n$'s are not disjoint, then this map will not be injective. But that's not a serious problem, because any infinite set $A$ for which there is a surjective map from $mathbb N$ onto $A$ is countable.






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      Let $A_n$ be a countable set for each $nin mathbb N$. We'll show how to construct a surjective map $f:mathbb Ntobigcup_n=1^infty A_n$ to prove that $bigcup_n=1^infty A_n$ is countable. Note that since each $A_n$ is countable, we may put $A_n$ into one-to-once correspondence with $mathbb N$ and so be able to refer to the $j^textth$ element of the set.



      To construct our $f$, we'll rely on the fact that there are infinitely many prime numbers in $mathbb N$, call these $p_1<p_2<cdots$. The idea, then, will be to send $p_i^jmapsto a_i,j$ where $a_i,j$ is the $j^textth$ element in $A_i$. This forms a surjection from the powers of primes to $bigcup_n=1^infty A_n$ since every element is the $j^textth$ element of some $A_i$. Thus, we define $$f(n)=begincases a_i,j &: n=p_i^j\ a_1,1 & :text otherwiseendcases.$$






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        @Andrea: it handles it just fine, whether the sets are disjoint or not. I map each power of a prime to the $j^th$ element of a set; the map doesn’t care if that element is in multiple sets since $n$ is determined by a specific prime (ergo a specific $i$) and whatever power that prime is (ergo, a specific $j$).
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      Not if it's an uncountably infinite union.






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      Since you have a countable family of sets, you can label them $A_i$, with $iinmathbbN$. Now you can "pad" the elements and create new sets:
      $tilde A_i = ~ain A_i$. Each padded set is isomorphic its original version, but all the padded sets are pairwise disjoint.

      Since the padded sets are disjoint, you can believe the proof that $tilde U = cup_i tilde A_i$. Now you just have to convince yourself that there is an injection from the union on the original sets to $tilde U$.






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        As long as it is a countable family, we don't require them to be pairwise disjoint. To see how to generalize the answers in the other posts, suppose that $$mathcalA=A_n:ninBbb N,$$ and consider the family $$mathcalB=B_n:ninBbb N$$ with the sets $B_n$ defined recursively as follows:




        • $B_1:=A_1$ (or $B_0:=A_0$ if $0inBbb N$ for you),

        • $B_n+1:=A_n+1smallsetminusbigcup_kle nA_k.$

        This is known as a "disjointification." The union of the sets in $mathcalB$ is the same as the union of the sets in $mathcalA,$ but the sets of $mathcalB$ are pairwise disjoint.



        In many cases, if we can prove something about a union of (countably-many) disjoint sets, each of which has some property/properties (such as countability or measurability), this trick will allow us to generalize the proof to unions of (countably-many) arbitrary sets with said property/properties.






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        As long as it is a countable family, we don't require them to be pairwise disjoint. To see how to generalize the answers in the other posts, suppose that $$mathcalA=A_n:ninBbb N,$$ and consider the family $$mathcalB=B_n:ninBbb N$$ with the sets $B_n$ defined recursively as follows:




        • $B_1:=A_1$ (or $B_0:=A_0$ if $0inBbb N$ for you),

        • $B_n+1:=A_n+1smallsetminusbigcup_kle nA_k.$

        This is known as a "disjointification." The union of the sets in $mathcalB$ is the same as the union of the sets in $mathcalA,$ but the sets of $mathcalB$ are pairwise disjoint.



        In many cases, if we can prove something about a union of (countably-many) disjoint sets, each of which has some property/properties (such as countability or measurability), this trick will allow us to generalize the proof to unions of (countably-many) arbitrary sets with said property/properties.






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        As long as it is a countable family, we don't require them to be pairwise disjoint. To see how to generalize the answers in the other posts, suppose that $$mathcalA=A_n:ninBbb N,$$ and consider the family $$mathcalB=B_n:ninBbb N$$ with the sets $B_n$ defined recursively as follows:




        • $B_1:=A_1$ (or $B_0:=A_0$ if $0inBbb N$ for you),

        • $B_n+1:=A_n+1smallsetminusbigcup_kle nA_k.$

        This is known as a "disjointification." The union of the sets in $mathcalB$ is the same as the union of the sets in $mathcalA,$ but the sets of $mathcalB$ are pairwise disjoint.



        In many cases, if we can prove something about a union of (countably-many) disjoint sets, each of which has some property/properties (such as countability or measurability), this trick will allow us to generalize the proof to unions of (countably-many) arbitrary sets with said property/properties.






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        As long as it is a countable family, we don't require them to be pairwise disjoint. To see how to generalize the answers in the other posts, suppose that $$mathcalA=A_n:ninBbb N,$$ and consider the family $$mathcalB=B_n:ninBbb N$$ with the sets $B_n$ defined recursively as follows:




        • $B_1:=A_1$ (or $B_0:=A_0$ if $0inBbb N$ for you),

        • $B_n+1:=A_n+1smallsetminusbigcup_kle nA_k.$

        This is known as a "disjointification." The union of the sets in $mathcalB$ is the same as the union of the sets in $mathcalA,$ but the sets of $mathcalB$ are pairwise disjoint.



        In many cases, if we can prove something about a union of (countably-many) disjoint sets, each of which has some property/properties (such as countability or measurability), this trick will allow us to generalize the proof to unions of (countably-many) arbitrary sets with said property/properties.







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        Hint: Suppose
        $$mathcalA = bigcup_n=1^infty A_n$$
        where each $A_k$ is countable. If these $A_k$ are not disjoint then, by setting $B_k = A_k backslash cup_j=1^k-1 A_j$ you can write $mathcalA$ as a countable disjoint union in the following way,
        $$mathcalA = bigcup_n=1^infty B_n.$$
        The $B_k$ are countable because the $A_k$ are (can you prove this?).



        This shows that you can assume that the countable union is disjoint - the other arguments that you've seen can now be applied. I hope this helps!






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          Hint: Suppose
          $$mathcalA = bigcup_n=1^infty A_n$$
          where each $A_k$ is countable. If these $A_k$ are not disjoint then, by setting $B_k = A_k backslash cup_j=1^k-1 A_j$ you can write $mathcalA$ as a countable disjoint union in the following way,
          $$mathcalA = bigcup_n=1^infty B_n.$$
          The $B_k$ are countable because the $A_k$ are (can you prove this?).



          This shows that you can assume that the countable union is disjoint - the other arguments that you've seen can now be applied. I hope this helps!






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            Hint: Suppose
            $$mathcalA = bigcup_n=1^infty A_n$$
            where each $A_k$ is countable. If these $A_k$ are not disjoint then, by setting $B_k = A_k backslash cup_j=1^k-1 A_j$ you can write $mathcalA$ as a countable disjoint union in the following way,
            $$mathcalA = bigcup_n=1^infty B_n.$$
            The $B_k$ are countable because the $A_k$ are (can you prove this?).



            This shows that you can assume that the countable union is disjoint - the other arguments that you've seen can now be applied. I hope this helps!






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            Hint: Suppose
            $$mathcalA = bigcup_n=1^infty A_n$$
            where each $A_k$ is countable. If these $A_k$ are not disjoint then, by setting $B_k = A_k backslash cup_j=1^k-1 A_j$ you can write $mathcalA$ as a countable disjoint union in the following way,
            $$mathcalA = bigcup_n=1^infty B_n.$$
            The $B_k$ are countable because the $A_k$ are (can you prove this?).



            This shows that you can assume that the countable union is disjoint - the other arguments that you've seen can now be applied. I hope this helps!







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                Given a sequence $(A_n)_ninmathbb N$ of countable sets, the usual proof defines a map from $mathbb N$ onto $bigcup_ninmathbb NA_n$. In fact, if the $A_n$'s are not disjoint, then this map will not be injective. But that's not a serious problem, because any infinite set $A$ for which there is a surjective map from $mathbb N$ onto $A$ is countable.






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                  Given a sequence $(A_n)_ninmathbb N$ of countable sets, the usual proof defines a map from $mathbb N$ onto $bigcup_ninmathbb NA_n$. In fact, if the $A_n$'s are not disjoint, then this map will not be injective. But that's not a serious problem, because any infinite set $A$ for which there is a surjective map from $mathbb N$ onto $A$ is countable.






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                    Given a sequence $(A_n)_ninmathbb N$ of countable sets, the usual proof defines a map from $mathbb N$ onto $bigcup_ninmathbb NA_n$. In fact, if the $A_n$'s are not disjoint, then this map will not be injective. But that's not a serious problem, because any infinite set $A$ for which there is a surjective map from $mathbb N$ onto $A$ is countable.






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                    Given a sequence $(A_n)_ninmathbb N$ of countable sets, the usual proof defines a map from $mathbb N$ onto $bigcup_ninmathbb NA_n$. In fact, if the $A_n$'s are not disjoint, then this map will not be injective. But that's not a serious problem, because any infinite set $A$ for which there is a surjective map from $mathbb N$ onto $A$ is countable.







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                        Let $A_n$ be a countable set for each $nin mathbb N$. We'll show how to construct a surjective map $f:mathbb Ntobigcup_n=1^infty A_n$ to prove that $bigcup_n=1^infty A_n$ is countable. Note that since each $A_n$ is countable, we may put $A_n$ into one-to-once correspondence with $mathbb N$ and so be able to refer to the $j^textth$ element of the set.



                        To construct our $f$, we'll rely on the fact that there are infinitely many prime numbers in $mathbb N$, call these $p_1<p_2<cdots$. The idea, then, will be to send $p_i^jmapsto a_i,j$ where $a_i,j$ is the $j^textth$ element in $A_i$. This forms a surjection from the powers of primes to $bigcup_n=1^infty A_n$ since every element is the $j^textth$ element of some $A_i$. Thus, we define $$f(n)=begincases a_i,j &: n=p_i^j\ a_1,1 & :text otherwiseendcases.$$






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                          Clever, but does not answer to OP's main concern: how to deal with non-disjoint sets $A_i$.
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                          – Andrea
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                          @Andrea: it handles it just fine, whether the sets are disjoint or not. I map each power of a prime to the $j^th$ element of a set; the map doesn’t care if that element is in multiple sets since $n$ is determined by a specific prime (ergo a specific $i$) and whatever power that prime is (ergo, a specific $j$).
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                        Let $A_n$ be a countable set for each $nin mathbb N$. We'll show how to construct a surjective map $f:mathbb Ntobigcup_n=1^infty A_n$ to prove that $bigcup_n=1^infty A_n$ is countable. Note that since each $A_n$ is countable, we may put $A_n$ into one-to-once correspondence with $mathbb N$ and so be able to refer to the $j^textth$ element of the set.



                        To construct our $f$, we'll rely on the fact that there are infinitely many prime numbers in $mathbb N$, call these $p_1<p_2<cdots$. The idea, then, will be to send $p_i^jmapsto a_i,j$ where $a_i,j$ is the $j^textth$ element in $A_i$. This forms a surjection from the powers of primes to $bigcup_n=1^infty A_n$ since every element is the $j^textth$ element of some $A_i$. Thus, we define $$f(n)=begincases a_i,j &: n=p_i^j\ a_1,1 & :text otherwiseendcases.$$






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                          Clever, but does not answer to OP's main concern: how to deal with non-disjoint sets $A_i$.
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                          – Andrea
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                          @Andrea: it handles it just fine, whether the sets are disjoint or not. I map each power of a prime to the $j^th$ element of a set; the map doesn’t care if that element is in multiple sets since $n$ is determined by a specific prime (ergo a specific $i$) and whatever power that prime is (ergo, a specific $j$).
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                        Let $A_n$ be a countable set for each $nin mathbb N$. We'll show how to construct a surjective map $f:mathbb Ntobigcup_n=1^infty A_n$ to prove that $bigcup_n=1^infty A_n$ is countable. Note that since each $A_n$ is countable, we may put $A_n$ into one-to-once correspondence with $mathbb N$ and so be able to refer to the $j^textth$ element of the set.



                        To construct our $f$, we'll rely on the fact that there are infinitely many prime numbers in $mathbb N$, call these $p_1<p_2<cdots$. The idea, then, will be to send $p_i^jmapsto a_i,j$ where $a_i,j$ is the $j^textth$ element in $A_i$. This forms a surjection from the powers of primes to $bigcup_n=1^infty A_n$ since every element is the $j^textth$ element of some $A_i$. Thus, we define $$f(n)=begincases a_i,j &: n=p_i^j\ a_1,1 & :text otherwiseendcases.$$






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                        Let $A_n$ be a countable set for each $nin mathbb N$. We'll show how to construct a surjective map $f:mathbb Ntobigcup_n=1^infty A_n$ to prove that $bigcup_n=1^infty A_n$ is countable. Note that since each $A_n$ is countable, we may put $A_n$ into one-to-once correspondence with $mathbb N$ and so be able to refer to the $j^textth$ element of the set.



                        To construct our $f$, we'll rely on the fact that there are infinitely many prime numbers in $mathbb N$, call these $p_1<p_2<cdots$. The idea, then, will be to send $p_i^jmapsto a_i,j$ where $a_i,j$ is the $j^textth$ element in $A_i$. This forms a surjection from the powers of primes to $bigcup_n=1^infty A_n$ since every element is the $j^textth$ element of some $A_i$. Thus, we define $$f(n)=begincases a_i,j &: n=p_i^j\ a_1,1 & :text otherwiseendcases.$$







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                          Clever, but does not answer to OP's main concern: how to deal with non-disjoint sets $A_i$.
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                          – Andrea
                          6 hours ago










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                          @Andrea: it handles it just fine, whether the sets are disjoint or not. I map each power of a prime to the $j^th$ element of a set; the map doesn’t care if that element is in multiple sets since $n$ is determined by a specific prime (ergo a specific $i$) and whatever power that prime is (ergo, a specific $j$).
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                          Clever, but does not answer to OP's main concern: how to deal with non-disjoint sets $A_i$.
                          $endgroup$
                          – Andrea
                          6 hours ago










                        • $begingroup$
                          @Andrea: it handles it just fine, whether the sets are disjoint or not. I map each power of a prime to the $j^th$ element of a set; the map doesn’t care if that element is in multiple sets since $n$ is determined by a specific prime (ergo a specific $i$) and whatever power that prime is (ergo, a specific $j$).
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                          – Clayton
                          4 hours ago
















                        $begingroup$
                        Clever, but does not answer to OP's main concern: how to deal with non-disjoint sets $A_i$.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Andrea
                        6 hours ago




                        $begingroup$
                        Clever, but does not answer to OP's main concern: how to deal with non-disjoint sets $A_i$.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Andrea
                        6 hours ago












                        $begingroup$
                        @Andrea: it handles it just fine, whether the sets are disjoint or not. I map each power of a prime to the $j^th$ element of a set; the map doesn’t care if that element is in multiple sets since $n$ is determined by a specific prime (ergo a specific $i$) and whatever power that prime is (ergo, a specific $j$).
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                        – Clayton
                        4 hours ago





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                        @Andrea: it handles it just fine, whether the sets are disjoint or not. I map each power of a prime to the $j^th$ element of a set; the map doesn’t care if that element is in multiple sets since $n$ is determined by a specific prime (ergo a specific $i$) and whatever power that prime is (ergo, a specific $j$).
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                        Not if it's an uncountably infinite union.






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                        Not if it's an uncountably infinite union.






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                          The title was corrected to countable just a couple of minutes after this post was made. The body of the post had the correct statement but the title needed to be corrected.
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                        Not if it's an uncountably infinite union.






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                          $begingroup$
                          The title was corrected to countable just a couple of minutes after this post was made. The body of the post had the correct statement but the title needed to be corrected.
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                          $begingroup$
                          The title was corrected to countable just a couple of minutes after this post was made. The body of the post had the correct statement but the title needed to be corrected.
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                        $begingroup$
                        The title was corrected to countable just a couple of minutes after this post was made. The body of the post had the correct statement but the title needed to be corrected.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Clayton
                        7 hours ago





                        $begingroup$
                        The title was corrected to countable just a couple of minutes after this post was made. The body of the post had the correct statement but the title needed to be corrected.
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                        Since you have a countable family of sets, you can label them $A_i$, with $iinmathbbN$. Now you can "pad" the elements and create new sets:
                        $tilde A_i = ~ain A_i$. Each padded set is isomorphic its original version, but all the padded sets are pairwise disjoint.

                        Since the padded sets are disjoint, you can believe the proof that $tilde U = cup_i tilde A_i$. Now you just have to convince yourself that there is an injection from the union on the original sets to $tilde U$.






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                          Since you have a countable family of sets, you can label them $A_i$, with $iinmathbbN$. Now you can "pad" the elements and create new sets:
                          $tilde A_i = ~ain A_i$. Each padded set is isomorphic its original version, but all the padded sets are pairwise disjoint.

                          Since the padded sets are disjoint, you can believe the proof that $tilde U = cup_i tilde A_i$. Now you just have to convince yourself that there is an injection from the union on the original sets to $tilde U$.






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                            Since you have a countable family of sets, you can label them $A_i$, with $iinmathbbN$. Now you can "pad" the elements and create new sets:
                            $tilde A_i = ~ain A_i$. Each padded set is isomorphic its original version, but all the padded sets are pairwise disjoint.

                            Since the padded sets are disjoint, you can believe the proof that $tilde U = cup_i tilde A_i$. Now you just have to convince yourself that there is an injection from the union on the original sets to $tilde U$.






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                            Since you have a countable family of sets, you can label them $A_i$, with $iinmathbbN$. Now you can "pad" the elements and create new sets:
                            $tilde A_i = ~ain A_i$. Each padded set is isomorphic its original version, but all the padded sets are pairwise disjoint.

                            Since the padded sets are disjoint, you can believe the proof that $tilde U = cup_i tilde A_i$. Now you just have to convince yourself that there is an injection from the union on the original sets to $tilde U$.







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