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Arbitrariness of an arbitrary function after an operation


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Let’s say there is an arbitrary function f(x). Now I define another function g(x) = O(f(x)), where O is a mathematical operation (addition, inverse, derivative...whatever). My question is, can g(x) still be regarded as an “arbitrary function”?



My first thought is a no, because g(x) has to satisfy the mathematical operation as stated (i.e. it has to meet certain conditions/restrictions). But later I remember seeing statements such as “an arbitrary REAL number” (i.e. “the number has to be real” is a condition to be met), and now I’m confused.










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    $g$ may not be completely arbitrary anymore. For example, if the "O" is the squaring operation, so $g(x) = f(x)^2$, then $g(x)$ is now always non-negative (assuming $f$ is real-valued).
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    Thanks for the answers first. So does it mean that a function can still be regarded as “arbitrary” even if there are restrictions on it? Somehow this looks contradictory to me....
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Let’s say there is an arbitrary function f(x). Now I define another function g(x) = O(f(x)), where O is a mathematical operation (addition, inverse, derivative...whatever). My question is, can g(x) still be regarded as an “arbitrary function”?



My first thought is a no, because g(x) has to satisfy the mathematical operation as stated (i.e. it has to meet certain conditions/restrictions). But later I remember seeing statements such as “an arbitrary REAL number” (i.e. “the number has to be real” is a condition to be met), and now I’m confused.










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  • $begingroup$
    $g$ may not be completely arbitrary anymore. For example, if the "O" is the squaring operation, so $g(x) = f(x)^2$, then $g(x)$ is now always non-negative (assuming $f$ is real-valued).
    $endgroup$
    – Minus One-Twelfth
    17 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Thanks for the answers first. So does it mean that a function can still be regarded as “arbitrary” even if there are restrictions on it? Somehow this looks contradictory to me....
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Let’s say there is an arbitrary function f(x). Now I define another function g(x) = O(f(x)), where O is a mathematical operation (addition, inverse, derivative...whatever). My question is, can g(x) still be regarded as an “arbitrary function”?



My first thought is a no, because g(x) has to satisfy the mathematical operation as stated (i.e. it has to meet certain conditions/restrictions). But later I remember seeing statements such as “an arbitrary REAL number” (i.e. “the number has to be real” is a condition to be met), and now I’m confused.










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Let’s say there is an arbitrary function f(x). Now I define another function g(x) = O(f(x)), where O is a mathematical operation (addition, inverse, derivative...whatever). My question is, can g(x) still be regarded as an “arbitrary function”?



My first thought is a no, because g(x) has to satisfy the mathematical operation as stated (i.e. it has to meet certain conditions/restrictions). But later I remember seeing statements such as “an arbitrary REAL number” (i.e. “the number has to be real” is a condition to be met), and now I’m confused.







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  • $begingroup$
    $g$ may not be completely arbitrary anymore. For example, if the "O" is the squaring operation, so $g(x) = f(x)^2$, then $g(x)$ is now always non-negative (assuming $f$ is real-valued).
    $endgroup$
    – Minus One-Twelfth
    17 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Thanks for the answers first. So does it mean that a function can still be regarded as “arbitrary” even if there are restrictions on it? Somehow this looks contradictory to me....
    $endgroup$
    – Kim Leung
    13 hours ago


















  • $begingroup$
    $g$ may not be completely arbitrary anymore. For example, if the "O" is the squaring operation, so $g(x) = f(x)^2$, then $g(x)$ is now always non-negative (assuming $f$ is real-valued).
    $endgroup$
    – Minus One-Twelfth
    17 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Thanks for the answers first. So does it mean that a function can still be regarded as “arbitrary” even if there are restrictions on it? Somehow this looks contradictory to me....
    $endgroup$
    – Kim Leung
    13 hours ago
















$begingroup$
$g$ may not be completely arbitrary anymore. For example, if the "O" is the squaring operation, so $g(x) = f(x)^2$, then $g(x)$ is now always non-negative (assuming $f$ is real-valued).
$endgroup$
– Minus One-Twelfth
17 hours ago




$begingroup$
$g$ may not be completely arbitrary anymore. For example, if the "O" is the squaring operation, so $g(x) = f(x)^2$, then $g(x)$ is now always non-negative (assuming $f$ is real-valued).
$endgroup$
– Minus One-Twelfth
17 hours ago












$begingroup$
Thanks for the answers first. So does it mean that a function can still be regarded as “arbitrary” even if there are restrictions on it? Somehow this looks contradictory to me....
$endgroup$
– Kim Leung
13 hours ago




$begingroup$
Thanks for the answers first. So does it mean that a function can still be regarded as “arbitrary” even if there are restrictions on it? Somehow this looks contradictory to me....
$endgroup$
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13 hours ago










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As hinted by Minus One-Twelfth, the range of $g$ must be contained in the range of $O$. But that is the only restriction. That is, for any function $h$ on some domain $A$ whose
range is contained in the range of $O$, there is a function $f$ from $A$ into the domain of $O$ such that $h(x) = O(f(x))$ for all $x in A$. Namely, for each $x in A$ we let $f(x)$ be some $y$ such that $O(y) = h(x)$.






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    As hinted by Minus One-Twelfth, the range of $g$ must be contained in the range of $O$. But that is the only restriction. That is, for any function $h$ on some domain $A$ whose
    range is contained in the range of $O$, there is a function $f$ from $A$ into the domain of $O$ such that $h(x) = O(f(x))$ for all $x in A$. Namely, for each $x in A$ we let $f(x)$ be some $y$ such that $O(y) = h(x)$.






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      range is contained in the range of $O$, there is a function $f$ from $A$ into the domain of $O$ such that $h(x) = O(f(x))$ for all $x in A$. Namely, for each $x in A$ we let $f(x)$ be some $y$ such that $O(y) = h(x)$.






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        As hinted by Minus One-Twelfth, the range of $g$ must be contained in the range of $O$. But that is the only restriction. That is, for any function $h$ on some domain $A$ whose
        range is contained in the range of $O$, there is a function $f$ from $A$ into the domain of $O$ such that $h(x) = O(f(x))$ for all $x in A$. Namely, for each $x in A$ we let $f(x)$ be some $y$ such that $O(y) = h(x)$.






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