Quasi homomorphism from integers to reals.Interspersing of integers by rationalsLeast Upper Bound Property...
Deal the cards to the players
How spaceships determine each other's mass in space?
Error in TransformedField
Python 3.6+ function to ask for a multiple-choice answer
How to make sure I'm assertive enough in contact with subordinates?
Is it a Cyclops number? "Nobody" knows!
Dukha vs legitimate need
Too soon for a plot twist?
Problems with rounding giving too many digits
Should we avoid writing fiction about historical events without extensive research?
Are there other characters in the Star Wars universe who had damaged bodies and needed to wear an outfit like Darth Vader?
Are Wave equations equivalent to Maxwell equations in free space?
Can a space-faring robot still function over a billion years?
Why do we call complex numbers “numbers” but we don’t consider 2 vectors numbers?
School performs periodic password audits. Is my password compromised?
What's the best tool for cutting holes into duct work?
Affine transformation of circular arc in 3D
Why are special aircraft used for the carriers in the United States Navy?
How does a sound wave propagate?
Was it really inappropriate to write a pull request for the company I interviewed with?
What can I do if someone tampers with my SSH public key?
Infinitive vs Gerund
Why can't we use freedom of speech and expression to incite people to rebel against government in India?
What is the meaning of option 'by' in TikZ Intersections
Quasi homomorphism from integers to reals.
Interspersing of integers by rationalsLeast Upper Bound Property Implies Greatest Lower Bound PropertyBounding summationsHow to obtain uniform bounds on a polynomial by looking at its coefficients.Mathematical Analysis by Walter Rudin, Theorem 1.11: Upper/Lower Bounds and Supremum/Infimum.Real Analysis - upper and lower boundsBounding $frac{(n^2 +log_5(n))cdot log_8(log_2(frac{sqrt{n}}{2}))}{2}$ from above and belowHow to answer Calculus by Michael Spivak Chapter 8 problem 3Greatest lower boundUpper and lower bounds on difference of bounded variables
$begingroup$
Let $f:mathbb{Z}rightarrow mathbb{R}$ be a quasi-homomorphism, i.e $|f(a+b)-f(a)-f(b)|leq D$ $forall$ $a$ and $b$ in $mathbb{Z}$ ($mathbb{R}$ and $mathbb{Z}$ are here considered as additive groups and so you see the plus sign). I have to prove that there exists a unique number $tau$ $epsilon $ $mathbb{R}$ such that $f(n)-ntau$ is bounded.
I have separately shown the uniqueness part and have found bounds that work in following restrictive cases :
(i) If $n$ is positive, I have bounded it above by $f(0)$ using $tau=f(1)+D$.
(ii) If $n$ is positive, I have bounded it below by $f(0)$ using $tau=f(1)-D$.
(iii) If $n$ is negative, I have bounded it above by $f(0)$ using $tau=f(-1)+D$.
(iv) If $n$ is negative, I have bounded it below by $f(0)$ using $tau=f(-1)-D$. I understand that I have always used $f(0)$ to bound them, but that is only what I can see since I am splitting $n$ as $n$ times the generator $1$ $epsilon$ $mathbb{Z}$. Please help me bound this universally using just one unique $tau$.
group-theory analysis upper-lower-bounds
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Let $f:mathbb{Z}rightarrow mathbb{R}$ be a quasi-homomorphism, i.e $|f(a+b)-f(a)-f(b)|leq D$ $forall$ $a$ and $b$ in $mathbb{Z}$ ($mathbb{R}$ and $mathbb{Z}$ are here considered as additive groups and so you see the plus sign). I have to prove that there exists a unique number $tau$ $epsilon $ $mathbb{R}$ such that $f(n)-ntau$ is bounded.
I have separately shown the uniqueness part and have found bounds that work in following restrictive cases :
(i) If $n$ is positive, I have bounded it above by $f(0)$ using $tau=f(1)+D$.
(ii) If $n$ is positive, I have bounded it below by $f(0)$ using $tau=f(1)-D$.
(iii) If $n$ is negative, I have bounded it above by $f(0)$ using $tau=f(-1)+D$.
(iv) If $n$ is negative, I have bounded it below by $f(0)$ using $tau=f(-1)-D$. I understand that I have always used $f(0)$ to bound them, but that is only what I can see since I am splitting $n$ as $n$ times the generator $1$ $epsilon$ $mathbb{Z}$. Please help me bound this universally using just one unique $tau$.
group-theory analysis upper-lower-bounds
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
if you have separately shown uniqueness, why bound it? why not just show there must exist one?
$endgroup$
– Rylee Lyman
Feb 13 at 12:01
$begingroup$
Because uniqueness will just tell me that if at all universal bounds exist (not merely restrictive cases as I have been able to do as yet), all of them will be the same. I tried 'there must exist one' by contradiction but no conclusion yet.
$endgroup$
– Circle
Feb 13 at 12:13
$begingroup$
Probably $tau=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{f(n)}{n}$.
$endgroup$
– SMM
Feb 13 at 12:13
$begingroup$
@SMM $n$ can be negative as well. In that case, I will get two values for $tau$ (one in each direction). And from what I am getting, they will be negative of each other, which would imply it to be zero in case we expect the (directional) limits to be equal. Can you check it once?
$endgroup$
– Circle
yesterday
$begingroup$
@Circle I wrote an explanation in the answer.
$endgroup$
– SMM
18 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Let $f:mathbb{Z}rightarrow mathbb{R}$ be a quasi-homomorphism, i.e $|f(a+b)-f(a)-f(b)|leq D$ $forall$ $a$ and $b$ in $mathbb{Z}$ ($mathbb{R}$ and $mathbb{Z}$ are here considered as additive groups and so you see the plus sign). I have to prove that there exists a unique number $tau$ $epsilon $ $mathbb{R}$ such that $f(n)-ntau$ is bounded.
I have separately shown the uniqueness part and have found bounds that work in following restrictive cases :
(i) If $n$ is positive, I have bounded it above by $f(0)$ using $tau=f(1)+D$.
(ii) If $n$ is positive, I have bounded it below by $f(0)$ using $tau=f(1)-D$.
(iii) If $n$ is negative, I have bounded it above by $f(0)$ using $tau=f(-1)+D$.
(iv) If $n$ is negative, I have bounded it below by $f(0)$ using $tau=f(-1)-D$. I understand that I have always used $f(0)$ to bound them, but that is only what I can see since I am splitting $n$ as $n$ times the generator $1$ $epsilon$ $mathbb{Z}$. Please help me bound this universally using just one unique $tau$.
group-theory analysis upper-lower-bounds
$endgroup$
Let $f:mathbb{Z}rightarrow mathbb{R}$ be a quasi-homomorphism, i.e $|f(a+b)-f(a)-f(b)|leq D$ $forall$ $a$ and $b$ in $mathbb{Z}$ ($mathbb{R}$ and $mathbb{Z}$ are here considered as additive groups and so you see the plus sign). I have to prove that there exists a unique number $tau$ $epsilon $ $mathbb{R}$ such that $f(n)-ntau$ is bounded.
I have separately shown the uniqueness part and have found bounds that work in following restrictive cases :
(i) If $n$ is positive, I have bounded it above by $f(0)$ using $tau=f(1)+D$.
(ii) If $n$ is positive, I have bounded it below by $f(0)$ using $tau=f(1)-D$.
(iii) If $n$ is negative, I have bounded it above by $f(0)$ using $tau=f(-1)+D$.
(iv) If $n$ is negative, I have bounded it below by $f(0)$ using $tau=f(-1)-D$. I understand that I have always used $f(0)$ to bound them, but that is only what I can see since I am splitting $n$ as $n$ times the generator $1$ $epsilon$ $mathbb{Z}$. Please help me bound this universally using just one unique $tau$.
group-theory analysis upper-lower-bounds
group-theory analysis upper-lower-bounds
asked Feb 13 at 11:32
CircleCircle
112
112
$begingroup$
if you have separately shown uniqueness, why bound it? why not just show there must exist one?
$endgroup$
– Rylee Lyman
Feb 13 at 12:01
$begingroup$
Because uniqueness will just tell me that if at all universal bounds exist (not merely restrictive cases as I have been able to do as yet), all of them will be the same. I tried 'there must exist one' by contradiction but no conclusion yet.
$endgroup$
– Circle
Feb 13 at 12:13
$begingroup$
Probably $tau=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{f(n)}{n}$.
$endgroup$
– SMM
Feb 13 at 12:13
$begingroup$
@SMM $n$ can be negative as well. In that case, I will get two values for $tau$ (one in each direction). And from what I am getting, they will be negative of each other, which would imply it to be zero in case we expect the (directional) limits to be equal. Can you check it once?
$endgroup$
– Circle
yesterday
$begingroup$
@Circle I wrote an explanation in the answer.
$endgroup$
– SMM
18 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
if you have separately shown uniqueness, why bound it? why not just show there must exist one?
$endgroup$
– Rylee Lyman
Feb 13 at 12:01
$begingroup$
Because uniqueness will just tell me that if at all universal bounds exist (not merely restrictive cases as I have been able to do as yet), all of them will be the same. I tried 'there must exist one' by contradiction but no conclusion yet.
$endgroup$
– Circle
Feb 13 at 12:13
$begingroup$
Probably $tau=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{f(n)}{n}$.
$endgroup$
– SMM
Feb 13 at 12:13
$begingroup$
@SMM $n$ can be negative as well. In that case, I will get two values for $tau$ (one in each direction). And from what I am getting, they will be negative of each other, which would imply it to be zero in case we expect the (directional) limits to be equal. Can you check it once?
$endgroup$
– Circle
yesterday
$begingroup$
@Circle I wrote an explanation in the answer.
$endgroup$
– SMM
18 hours ago
$begingroup$
if you have separately shown uniqueness, why bound it? why not just show there must exist one?
$endgroup$
– Rylee Lyman
Feb 13 at 12:01
$begingroup$
if you have separately shown uniqueness, why bound it? why not just show there must exist one?
$endgroup$
– Rylee Lyman
Feb 13 at 12:01
$begingroup$
Because uniqueness will just tell me that if at all universal bounds exist (not merely restrictive cases as I have been able to do as yet), all of them will be the same. I tried 'there must exist one' by contradiction but no conclusion yet.
$endgroup$
– Circle
Feb 13 at 12:13
$begingroup$
Because uniqueness will just tell me that if at all universal bounds exist (not merely restrictive cases as I have been able to do as yet), all of them will be the same. I tried 'there must exist one' by contradiction but no conclusion yet.
$endgroup$
– Circle
Feb 13 at 12:13
$begingroup$
Probably $tau=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{f(n)}{n}$.
$endgroup$
– SMM
Feb 13 at 12:13
$begingroup$
Probably $tau=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{f(n)}{n}$.
$endgroup$
– SMM
Feb 13 at 12:13
$begingroup$
@SMM $n$ can be negative as well. In that case, I will get two values for $tau$ (one in each direction). And from what I am getting, they will be negative of each other, which would imply it to be zero in case we expect the (directional) limits to be equal. Can you check it once?
$endgroup$
– Circle
yesterday
$begingroup$
@SMM $n$ can be negative as well. In that case, I will get two values for $tau$ (one in each direction). And from what I am getting, they will be negative of each other, which would imply it to be zero in case we expect the (directional) limits to be equal. Can you check it once?
$endgroup$
– Circle
yesterday
$begingroup$
@Circle I wrote an explanation in the answer.
$endgroup$
– SMM
18 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Circle I wrote an explanation in the answer.
$endgroup$
– SMM
18 hours ago
add a comment |
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
Define the function $f^*:mathbb Ztomathbb R$ by:
$$f^*(a)=lim_{nto +infty}frac{f(na)}{n}.$$
One has to show that the limit exists, and let us leave that. We can notice that $f^*(0)=0$ and $f^*(ka)=kf^*(a)$ for every $k>0$:
$$f^*(ka)= lim_{nto+infty}frac{f(nka)}{n}= klim_{nto+infty}frac{f(nka)}{nk}= klim_{nto+infty}frac{f(na)}{n}= kf^*(a).$$
Note that by induction on $n>0$ we have:
$$|f(na)-nf(a)|leqslant (n-1)D.$$
For $n=1$, this is trivial, so assume that the inequality holds for $n$, we have:
$$|f((n+1)a)-(n+1)f(a)|leqslant |f((n+1)a)-f(na)-f(a)|+ |f(na)-nf(a)|leqslant D+(n-1)D=nD.$$
Therefore:
$$frac{|f(na)-nf(a)|}{n}leqslant frac{n-1}{n}D<D,$$
and so:
$$|f^*(a)-f(a)|= |lim_{nto+infty}frac{f(na)}{n}-f(a)|= lim_{nto+infty}|frac{f(na)}{n}-f(a)|= lim_{nto+infty}frac{|f(na)-nf(a)|}{n}leqslant D.$$
Put $tau=f^*(1)$. For positive $a$, we have:
$$|f(a)-atau|= |f(a)-af^*(1)|= |f(a)-f^*(a)|leqslant D.$$
It remains to prove that $|f(-a)+atau|$ is bounded for positive $a$. By induction on $n>0$ we see that:
$$|f(0)-f(-na)-nf(a)|leqslant nD.$$
For $n=1$ this is trivial. Assume that the inequality holds for $n$, we have:
$$|f(0)-f(-(n+1)a)-(n+1)f(a)|leqslant |f(0)-f(-na)-nf(a)|+ |f(-na)- f(-(n+1)a)-f(a)|leqslant nD+D=(n+1)D.$$
Therefore:
$$-|f(0)|-nDleqslant f(0)-nDleqslant f(-na)+nf(a)leqslant f(0)+nDleqslant |f(0)|+nD,$$
so:
$$frac{|f(-na)+nf(a)|}{n}leqslant frac{|f(0)|}{n}+D,$$
and we have:
$$|f^*(-a)+f(a)|= |lim_{ntoinfty}frac{f(-na)}{n}+f(a)|= lim_{nto+infty}frac{|f(-na)+nf(a)|}{n}leqslant lim_{nto+infty}frac{|f(0)|}{n}+D=D.$$
Finally:
$$|f(-a)+atau|= |f(-a)+af^*(1)|=|f(-a)+f^*(a)|leqslant |f(-a)-f^*(-a)|+|f^*(-a)+f(a)|+|f^*(a)-f(a)|leqslant D+D+D=3D.$$
So $|f(a)-atau|$ is bounded by $3D$ for every $a$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3111279%2fquasi-homomorphism-from-integers-to-reals%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
Define the function $f^*:mathbb Ztomathbb R$ by:
$$f^*(a)=lim_{nto +infty}frac{f(na)}{n}.$$
One has to show that the limit exists, and let us leave that. We can notice that $f^*(0)=0$ and $f^*(ka)=kf^*(a)$ for every $k>0$:
$$f^*(ka)= lim_{nto+infty}frac{f(nka)}{n}= klim_{nto+infty}frac{f(nka)}{nk}= klim_{nto+infty}frac{f(na)}{n}= kf^*(a).$$
Note that by induction on $n>0$ we have:
$$|f(na)-nf(a)|leqslant (n-1)D.$$
For $n=1$, this is trivial, so assume that the inequality holds for $n$, we have:
$$|f((n+1)a)-(n+1)f(a)|leqslant |f((n+1)a)-f(na)-f(a)|+ |f(na)-nf(a)|leqslant D+(n-1)D=nD.$$
Therefore:
$$frac{|f(na)-nf(a)|}{n}leqslant frac{n-1}{n}D<D,$$
and so:
$$|f^*(a)-f(a)|= |lim_{nto+infty}frac{f(na)}{n}-f(a)|= lim_{nto+infty}|frac{f(na)}{n}-f(a)|= lim_{nto+infty}frac{|f(na)-nf(a)|}{n}leqslant D.$$
Put $tau=f^*(1)$. For positive $a$, we have:
$$|f(a)-atau|= |f(a)-af^*(1)|= |f(a)-f^*(a)|leqslant D.$$
It remains to prove that $|f(-a)+atau|$ is bounded for positive $a$. By induction on $n>0$ we see that:
$$|f(0)-f(-na)-nf(a)|leqslant nD.$$
For $n=1$ this is trivial. Assume that the inequality holds for $n$, we have:
$$|f(0)-f(-(n+1)a)-(n+1)f(a)|leqslant |f(0)-f(-na)-nf(a)|+ |f(-na)- f(-(n+1)a)-f(a)|leqslant nD+D=(n+1)D.$$
Therefore:
$$-|f(0)|-nDleqslant f(0)-nDleqslant f(-na)+nf(a)leqslant f(0)+nDleqslant |f(0)|+nD,$$
so:
$$frac{|f(-na)+nf(a)|}{n}leqslant frac{|f(0)|}{n}+D,$$
and we have:
$$|f^*(-a)+f(a)|= |lim_{ntoinfty}frac{f(-na)}{n}+f(a)|= lim_{nto+infty}frac{|f(-na)+nf(a)|}{n}leqslant lim_{nto+infty}frac{|f(0)|}{n}+D=D.$$
Finally:
$$|f(-a)+atau|= |f(-a)+af^*(1)|=|f(-a)+f^*(a)|leqslant |f(-a)-f^*(-a)|+|f^*(-a)+f(a)|+|f^*(a)-f(a)|leqslant D+D+D=3D.$$
So $|f(a)-atau|$ is bounded by $3D$ for every $a$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Define the function $f^*:mathbb Ztomathbb R$ by:
$$f^*(a)=lim_{nto +infty}frac{f(na)}{n}.$$
One has to show that the limit exists, and let us leave that. We can notice that $f^*(0)=0$ and $f^*(ka)=kf^*(a)$ for every $k>0$:
$$f^*(ka)= lim_{nto+infty}frac{f(nka)}{n}= klim_{nto+infty}frac{f(nka)}{nk}= klim_{nto+infty}frac{f(na)}{n}= kf^*(a).$$
Note that by induction on $n>0$ we have:
$$|f(na)-nf(a)|leqslant (n-1)D.$$
For $n=1$, this is trivial, so assume that the inequality holds for $n$, we have:
$$|f((n+1)a)-(n+1)f(a)|leqslant |f((n+1)a)-f(na)-f(a)|+ |f(na)-nf(a)|leqslant D+(n-1)D=nD.$$
Therefore:
$$frac{|f(na)-nf(a)|}{n}leqslant frac{n-1}{n}D<D,$$
and so:
$$|f^*(a)-f(a)|= |lim_{nto+infty}frac{f(na)}{n}-f(a)|= lim_{nto+infty}|frac{f(na)}{n}-f(a)|= lim_{nto+infty}frac{|f(na)-nf(a)|}{n}leqslant D.$$
Put $tau=f^*(1)$. For positive $a$, we have:
$$|f(a)-atau|= |f(a)-af^*(1)|= |f(a)-f^*(a)|leqslant D.$$
It remains to prove that $|f(-a)+atau|$ is bounded for positive $a$. By induction on $n>0$ we see that:
$$|f(0)-f(-na)-nf(a)|leqslant nD.$$
For $n=1$ this is trivial. Assume that the inequality holds for $n$, we have:
$$|f(0)-f(-(n+1)a)-(n+1)f(a)|leqslant |f(0)-f(-na)-nf(a)|+ |f(-na)- f(-(n+1)a)-f(a)|leqslant nD+D=(n+1)D.$$
Therefore:
$$-|f(0)|-nDleqslant f(0)-nDleqslant f(-na)+nf(a)leqslant f(0)+nDleqslant |f(0)|+nD,$$
so:
$$frac{|f(-na)+nf(a)|}{n}leqslant frac{|f(0)|}{n}+D,$$
and we have:
$$|f^*(-a)+f(a)|= |lim_{ntoinfty}frac{f(-na)}{n}+f(a)|= lim_{nto+infty}frac{|f(-na)+nf(a)|}{n}leqslant lim_{nto+infty}frac{|f(0)|}{n}+D=D.$$
Finally:
$$|f(-a)+atau|= |f(-a)+af^*(1)|=|f(-a)+f^*(a)|leqslant |f(-a)-f^*(-a)|+|f^*(-a)+f(a)|+|f^*(a)-f(a)|leqslant D+D+D=3D.$$
So $|f(a)-atau|$ is bounded by $3D$ for every $a$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Define the function $f^*:mathbb Ztomathbb R$ by:
$$f^*(a)=lim_{nto +infty}frac{f(na)}{n}.$$
One has to show that the limit exists, and let us leave that. We can notice that $f^*(0)=0$ and $f^*(ka)=kf^*(a)$ for every $k>0$:
$$f^*(ka)= lim_{nto+infty}frac{f(nka)}{n}= klim_{nto+infty}frac{f(nka)}{nk}= klim_{nto+infty}frac{f(na)}{n}= kf^*(a).$$
Note that by induction on $n>0$ we have:
$$|f(na)-nf(a)|leqslant (n-1)D.$$
For $n=1$, this is trivial, so assume that the inequality holds for $n$, we have:
$$|f((n+1)a)-(n+1)f(a)|leqslant |f((n+1)a)-f(na)-f(a)|+ |f(na)-nf(a)|leqslant D+(n-1)D=nD.$$
Therefore:
$$frac{|f(na)-nf(a)|}{n}leqslant frac{n-1}{n}D<D,$$
and so:
$$|f^*(a)-f(a)|= |lim_{nto+infty}frac{f(na)}{n}-f(a)|= lim_{nto+infty}|frac{f(na)}{n}-f(a)|= lim_{nto+infty}frac{|f(na)-nf(a)|}{n}leqslant D.$$
Put $tau=f^*(1)$. For positive $a$, we have:
$$|f(a)-atau|= |f(a)-af^*(1)|= |f(a)-f^*(a)|leqslant D.$$
It remains to prove that $|f(-a)+atau|$ is bounded for positive $a$. By induction on $n>0$ we see that:
$$|f(0)-f(-na)-nf(a)|leqslant nD.$$
For $n=1$ this is trivial. Assume that the inequality holds for $n$, we have:
$$|f(0)-f(-(n+1)a)-(n+1)f(a)|leqslant |f(0)-f(-na)-nf(a)|+ |f(-na)- f(-(n+1)a)-f(a)|leqslant nD+D=(n+1)D.$$
Therefore:
$$-|f(0)|-nDleqslant f(0)-nDleqslant f(-na)+nf(a)leqslant f(0)+nDleqslant |f(0)|+nD,$$
so:
$$frac{|f(-na)+nf(a)|}{n}leqslant frac{|f(0)|}{n}+D,$$
and we have:
$$|f^*(-a)+f(a)|= |lim_{ntoinfty}frac{f(-na)}{n}+f(a)|= lim_{nto+infty}frac{|f(-na)+nf(a)|}{n}leqslant lim_{nto+infty}frac{|f(0)|}{n}+D=D.$$
Finally:
$$|f(-a)+atau|= |f(-a)+af^*(1)|=|f(-a)+f^*(a)|leqslant |f(-a)-f^*(-a)|+|f^*(-a)+f(a)|+|f^*(a)-f(a)|leqslant D+D+D=3D.$$
So $|f(a)-atau|$ is bounded by $3D$ for every $a$.
$endgroup$
Define the function $f^*:mathbb Ztomathbb R$ by:
$$f^*(a)=lim_{nto +infty}frac{f(na)}{n}.$$
One has to show that the limit exists, and let us leave that. We can notice that $f^*(0)=0$ and $f^*(ka)=kf^*(a)$ for every $k>0$:
$$f^*(ka)= lim_{nto+infty}frac{f(nka)}{n}= klim_{nto+infty}frac{f(nka)}{nk}= klim_{nto+infty}frac{f(na)}{n}= kf^*(a).$$
Note that by induction on $n>0$ we have:
$$|f(na)-nf(a)|leqslant (n-1)D.$$
For $n=1$, this is trivial, so assume that the inequality holds for $n$, we have:
$$|f((n+1)a)-(n+1)f(a)|leqslant |f((n+1)a)-f(na)-f(a)|+ |f(na)-nf(a)|leqslant D+(n-1)D=nD.$$
Therefore:
$$frac{|f(na)-nf(a)|}{n}leqslant frac{n-1}{n}D<D,$$
and so:
$$|f^*(a)-f(a)|= |lim_{nto+infty}frac{f(na)}{n}-f(a)|= lim_{nto+infty}|frac{f(na)}{n}-f(a)|= lim_{nto+infty}frac{|f(na)-nf(a)|}{n}leqslant D.$$
Put $tau=f^*(1)$. For positive $a$, we have:
$$|f(a)-atau|= |f(a)-af^*(1)|= |f(a)-f^*(a)|leqslant D.$$
It remains to prove that $|f(-a)+atau|$ is bounded for positive $a$. By induction on $n>0$ we see that:
$$|f(0)-f(-na)-nf(a)|leqslant nD.$$
For $n=1$ this is trivial. Assume that the inequality holds for $n$, we have:
$$|f(0)-f(-(n+1)a)-(n+1)f(a)|leqslant |f(0)-f(-na)-nf(a)|+ |f(-na)- f(-(n+1)a)-f(a)|leqslant nD+D=(n+1)D.$$
Therefore:
$$-|f(0)|-nDleqslant f(0)-nDleqslant f(-na)+nf(a)leqslant f(0)+nDleqslant |f(0)|+nD,$$
so:
$$frac{|f(-na)+nf(a)|}{n}leqslant frac{|f(0)|}{n}+D,$$
and we have:
$$|f^*(-a)+f(a)|= |lim_{ntoinfty}frac{f(-na)}{n}+f(a)|= lim_{nto+infty}frac{|f(-na)+nf(a)|}{n}leqslant lim_{nto+infty}frac{|f(0)|}{n}+D=D.$$
Finally:
$$|f(-a)+atau|= |f(-a)+af^*(1)|=|f(-a)+f^*(a)|leqslant |f(-a)-f^*(-a)|+|f^*(-a)+f(a)|+|f^*(a)-f(a)|leqslant D+D+D=3D.$$
So $|f(a)-atau|$ is bounded by $3D$ for every $a$.
answered 18 hours ago
SMMSMM
2,513510
2,513510
add a comment |
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3111279%2fquasi-homomorphism-from-integers-to-reals%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
$begingroup$
if you have separately shown uniqueness, why bound it? why not just show there must exist one?
$endgroup$
– Rylee Lyman
Feb 13 at 12:01
$begingroup$
Because uniqueness will just tell me that if at all universal bounds exist (not merely restrictive cases as I have been able to do as yet), all of them will be the same. I tried 'there must exist one' by contradiction but no conclusion yet.
$endgroup$
– Circle
Feb 13 at 12:13
$begingroup$
Probably $tau=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{f(n)}{n}$.
$endgroup$
– SMM
Feb 13 at 12:13
$begingroup$
@SMM $n$ can be negative as well. In that case, I will get two values for $tau$ (one in each direction). And from what I am getting, they will be negative of each other, which would imply it to be zero in case we expect the (directional) limits to be equal. Can you check it once?
$endgroup$
– Circle
yesterday
$begingroup$
@Circle I wrote an explanation in the answer.
$endgroup$
– SMM
18 hours ago