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Boundary of $A times B$



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Let $X$ and $Y$ be topological spaces. Let $A subset X$ and $B subset Y$. Find the boundary of $A times B$ in term of boundary of $A$ and boundary of $B$.










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    Welcome to Math.SE! What do you think should be the correct approach to solving the problem? Where are you getting stuck? HINT If a point is on the boundary of $A$ and in the interior of $B$, is it on the boundary of $A times B$?
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    Thanks. Yes it is on the boundary of A×B.
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    Similarly a point (x,y)in X×Y lies interior of A(x lies in intA)and boundary of B(y lies boundary of B) lies on boundary of A×B. Also a point (x,y) where x lies on boundary of A and y lies on boundary of B .Then it also lies on boundary of A×B. Are there another points not belonging type of those but in boundary of A×B?
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Let $X$ and $Y$ be topological spaces. Let $A subset X$ and $B subset Y$. Find the boundary of $A times B$ in term of boundary of $A$ and boundary of $B$.










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    Welcome to Math.SE! What do you think should be the correct approach to solving the problem? Where are you getting stuck? HINT If a point is on the boundary of $A$ and in the interior of $B$, is it on the boundary of $A times B$?
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    Thanks. Yes it is on the boundary of A×B.
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    – SUDIP SINGHA
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    Similarly a point (x,y)in X×Y lies interior of A(x lies in intA)and boundary of B(y lies boundary of B) lies on boundary of A×B. Also a point (x,y) where x lies on boundary of A and y lies on boundary of B .Then it also lies on boundary of A×B. Are there another points not belonging type of those but in boundary of A×B?
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Let $X$ and $Y$ be topological spaces. Let $A subset X$ and $B subset Y$. Find the boundary of $A times B$ in term of boundary of $A$ and boundary of $B$.







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    Welcome to Math.SE! What do you think should be the correct approach to solving the problem? Where are you getting stuck? HINT If a point is on the boundary of $A$ and in the interior of $B$, is it on the boundary of $A times B$?
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  • $begingroup$
    What are your thoughts on this question? Have you made any progress? Are you stuck in any particular place? Please note that questions which simply demand a solution, without any evidence of your work, are often closed here on math.stackexchange. Here's some information about how to ask a good question, with particular emphasis on how to provide context.
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    Thanks. Yes it is on the boundary of A×B.
    $endgroup$
    – SUDIP SINGHA
    Mar 25 at 16:41










  • $begingroup$
    Similarly a point (x,y)in X×Y lies interior of A(x lies in intA)and boundary of B(y lies boundary of B) lies on boundary of A×B. Also a point (x,y) where x lies on boundary of A and y lies on boundary of B .Then it also lies on boundary of A×B. Are there another points not belonging type of those but in boundary of A×B?
    $endgroup$
    – SUDIP SINGHA
    Mar 25 at 16:56


















  • $begingroup$
    Welcome to Math.SE! What do you think should be the correct approach to solving the problem? Where are you getting stuck? HINT If a point is on the boundary of $A$ and in the interior of $B$, is it on the boundary of $A times B$?
    $endgroup$
    – gt6989b
    Mar 25 at 16:38










  • $begingroup$
    What are your thoughts on this question? Have you made any progress? Are you stuck in any particular place? Please note that questions which simply demand a solution, without any evidence of your work, are often closed here on math.stackexchange. Here's some information about how to ask a good question, with particular emphasis on how to provide context.
    $endgroup$
    – Lee Mosher
    Mar 25 at 16:41












  • $begingroup$
    Thanks. Yes it is on the boundary of A×B.
    $endgroup$
    – SUDIP SINGHA
    Mar 25 at 16:41










  • $begingroup$
    Similarly a point (x,y)in X×Y lies interior of A(x lies in intA)and boundary of B(y lies boundary of B) lies on boundary of A×B. Also a point (x,y) where x lies on boundary of A and y lies on boundary of B .Then it also lies on boundary of A×B. Are there another points not belonging type of those but in boundary of A×B?
    $endgroup$
    – SUDIP SINGHA
    Mar 25 at 16:56
















$begingroup$
Welcome to Math.SE! What do you think should be the correct approach to solving the problem? Where are you getting stuck? HINT If a point is on the boundary of $A$ and in the interior of $B$, is it on the boundary of $A times B$?
$endgroup$
– gt6989b
Mar 25 at 16:38




$begingroup$
Welcome to Math.SE! What do you think should be the correct approach to solving the problem? Where are you getting stuck? HINT If a point is on the boundary of $A$ and in the interior of $B$, is it on the boundary of $A times B$?
$endgroup$
– gt6989b
Mar 25 at 16:38












$begingroup$
What are your thoughts on this question? Have you made any progress? Are you stuck in any particular place? Please note that questions which simply demand a solution, without any evidence of your work, are often closed here on math.stackexchange. Here's some information about how to ask a good question, with particular emphasis on how to provide context.
$endgroup$
– Lee Mosher
Mar 25 at 16:41






$begingroup$
What are your thoughts on this question? Have you made any progress? Are you stuck in any particular place? Please note that questions which simply demand a solution, without any evidence of your work, are often closed here on math.stackexchange. Here's some information about how to ask a good question, with particular emphasis on how to provide context.
$endgroup$
– Lee Mosher
Mar 25 at 16:41














$begingroup$
Thanks. Yes it is on the boundary of A×B.
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– SUDIP SINGHA
Mar 25 at 16:41




$begingroup$
Thanks. Yes it is on the boundary of A×B.
$endgroup$
– SUDIP SINGHA
Mar 25 at 16:41












$begingroup$
Similarly a point (x,y)in X×Y lies interior of A(x lies in intA)and boundary of B(y lies boundary of B) lies on boundary of A×B. Also a point (x,y) where x lies on boundary of A and y lies on boundary of B .Then it also lies on boundary of A×B. Are there another points not belonging type of those but in boundary of A×B?
$endgroup$
– SUDIP SINGHA
Mar 25 at 16:56




$begingroup$
Similarly a point (x,y)in X×Y lies interior of A(x lies in intA)and boundary of B(y lies boundary of B) lies on boundary of A×B. Also a point (x,y) where x lies on boundary of A and y lies on boundary of B .Then it also lies on boundary of A×B. Are there another points not belonging type of those but in boundary of A×B?
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Denoting by $partial A$ the boundary of $A$, we have



$$partial (A times B) = (partial A times overline{B}) cup (overline{A} times partial B)tag{*}$$



and we can expand that if you like, using $overline{C} = C cup partial C$ (for all $C$) as



$$(partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B) cup (partial A times partial B)= (partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B)$$



eliminating the double term, if you want everything in terms of the original sets and their boundaries.



The first identity $(ast)$ is a straightforward application of the definitions of boundary and the product topology, showing two inclusions. Try to prove it. You can attempt a more algebraic proof if you already know



$$overline{A times B}= overline{A} times overline{B}$$



$$operatorname{int}(A times B) = operatorname{int}(A) times operatorname{int}(B)$$



and $$partial C = overline{C}setminus operatorname{int}(C)$$



applied to $C=A times B$.






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    Denoting by $partial A$ the boundary of $A$, we have



    $$partial (A times B) = (partial A times overline{B}) cup (overline{A} times partial B)tag{*}$$



    and we can expand that if you like, using $overline{C} = C cup partial C$ (for all $C$) as



    $$(partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B) cup (partial A times partial B)= (partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B)$$



    eliminating the double term, if you want everything in terms of the original sets and their boundaries.



    The first identity $(ast)$ is a straightforward application of the definitions of boundary and the product topology, showing two inclusions. Try to prove it. You can attempt a more algebraic proof if you already know



    $$overline{A times B}= overline{A} times overline{B}$$



    $$operatorname{int}(A times B) = operatorname{int}(A) times operatorname{int}(B)$$



    and $$partial C = overline{C}setminus operatorname{int}(C)$$



    applied to $C=A times B$.






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      $begingroup$

      Denoting by $partial A$ the boundary of $A$, we have



      $$partial (A times B) = (partial A times overline{B}) cup (overline{A} times partial B)tag{*}$$



      and we can expand that if you like, using $overline{C} = C cup partial C$ (for all $C$) as



      $$(partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B) cup (partial A times partial B)= (partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B)$$



      eliminating the double term, if you want everything in terms of the original sets and their boundaries.



      The first identity $(ast)$ is a straightforward application of the definitions of boundary and the product topology, showing two inclusions. Try to prove it. You can attempt a more algebraic proof if you already know



      $$overline{A times B}= overline{A} times overline{B}$$



      $$operatorname{int}(A times B) = operatorname{int}(A) times operatorname{int}(B)$$



      and $$partial C = overline{C}setminus operatorname{int}(C)$$



      applied to $C=A times B$.






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        $begingroup$

        Denoting by $partial A$ the boundary of $A$, we have



        $$partial (A times B) = (partial A times overline{B}) cup (overline{A} times partial B)tag{*}$$



        and we can expand that if you like, using $overline{C} = C cup partial C$ (for all $C$) as



        $$(partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B) cup (partial A times partial B)= (partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B)$$



        eliminating the double term, if you want everything in terms of the original sets and their boundaries.



        The first identity $(ast)$ is a straightforward application of the definitions of boundary and the product topology, showing two inclusions. Try to prove it. You can attempt a more algebraic proof if you already know



        $$overline{A times B}= overline{A} times overline{B}$$



        $$operatorname{int}(A times B) = operatorname{int}(A) times operatorname{int}(B)$$



        and $$partial C = overline{C}setminus operatorname{int}(C)$$



        applied to $C=A times B$.






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        Denoting by $partial A$ the boundary of $A$, we have



        $$partial (A times B) = (partial A times overline{B}) cup (overline{A} times partial B)tag{*}$$



        and we can expand that if you like, using $overline{C} = C cup partial C$ (for all $C$) as



        $$(partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B) cup (partial A times partial B)= (partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B)$$



        eliminating the double term, if you want everything in terms of the original sets and their boundaries.



        The first identity $(ast)$ is a straightforward application of the definitions of boundary and the product topology, showing two inclusions. Try to prove it. You can attempt a more algebraic proof if you already know



        $$overline{A times B}= overline{A} times overline{B}$$



        $$operatorname{int}(A times B) = operatorname{int}(A) times operatorname{int}(B)$$



        and $$partial C = overline{C}setminus operatorname{int}(C)$$



        applied to $C=A times B$.







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