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Boundary of $A times B$
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Let $X$ and $Y$ be topological spaces. Let $A subset X$ and $B subset Y$. Find the boundary of $A times B$ in term of boundary of $A$ and boundary of $B$.
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Let $X$ and $Y$ be topological spaces. Let $A subset X$ and $B subset Y$. Find the boundary of $A times B$ in term of boundary of $A$ and boundary of $B$.
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Welcome to Math.SE! What do you think should be the correct approach to solving the problem? Where are you getting stuck? HINT If a point is on the boundary of $A$ and in the interior of $B$, is it on the boundary of $A times B$?
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Thanks. Yes it is on the boundary of A×B.
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Similarly a point (x,y)in X×Y lies interior of A(x lies in intA)and boundary of B(y lies boundary of B) lies on boundary of A×B. Also a point (x,y) where x lies on boundary of A and y lies on boundary of B .Then it also lies on boundary of A×B. Are there another points not belonging type of those but in boundary of A×B?
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Let $X$ and $Y$ be topological spaces. Let $A subset X$ and $B subset Y$. Find the boundary of $A times B$ in term of boundary of $A$ and boundary of $B$.
general-topology
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Let $X$ and $Y$ be topological spaces. Let $A subset X$ and $B subset Y$. Find the boundary of $A times B$ in term of boundary of $A$ and boundary of $B$.
general-topology
general-topology
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Welcome to Math.SE! What do you think should be the correct approach to solving the problem? Where are you getting stuck? HINT If a point is on the boundary of $A$ and in the interior of $B$, is it on the boundary of $A times B$?
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– gt6989b
Mar 25 at 16:38
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What are your thoughts on this question? Have you made any progress? Are you stuck in any particular place? Please note that questions which simply demand a solution, without any evidence of your work, are often closed here on math.stackexchange. Here's some information about how to ask a good question, with particular emphasis on how to provide context.
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– Lee Mosher
Mar 25 at 16:41
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Thanks. Yes it is on the boundary of A×B.
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– SUDIP SINGHA
Mar 25 at 16:41
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Similarly a point (x,y)in X×Y lies interior of A(x lies in intA)and boundary of B(y lies boundary of B) lies on boundary of A×B. Also a point (x,y) where x lies on boundary of A and y lies on boundary of B .Then it also lies on boundary of A×B. Are there another points not belonging type of those but in boundary of A×B?
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– SUDIP SINGHA
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Welcome to Math.SE! What do you think should be the correct approach to solving the problem? Where are you getting stuck? HINT If a point is on the boundary of $A$ and in the interior of $B$, is it on the boundary of $A times B$?
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– gt6989b
Mar 25 at 16:38
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– Lee Mosher
Mar 25 at 16:41
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Thanks. Yes it is on the boundary of A×B.
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– SUDIP SINGHA
Mar 25 at 16:41
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Similarly a point (x,y)in X×Y lies interior of A(x lies in intA)and boundary of B(y lies boundary of B) lies on boundary of A×B. Also a point (x,y) where x lies on boundary of A and y lies on boundary of B .Then it also lies on boundary of A×B. Are there another points not belonging type of those but in boundary of A×B?
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– SUDIP SINGHA
Mar 25 at 16:56
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Welcome to Math.SE! What do you think should be the correct approach to solving the problem? Where are you getting stuck? HINT If a point is on the boundary of $A$ and in the interior of $B$, is it on the boundary of $A times B$?
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– gt6989b
Mar 25 at 16:38
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Welcome to Math.SE! What do you think should be the correct approach to solving the problem? Where are you getting stuck? HINT If a point is on the boundary of $A$ and in the interior of $B$, is it on the boundary of $A times B$?
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– gt6989b
Mar 25 at 16:38
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– Lee Mosher
Mar 25 at 16:41
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What are your thoughts on this question? Have you made any progress? Are you stuck in any particular place? Please note that questions which simply demand a solution, without any evidence of your work, are often closed here on math.stackexchange. Here's some information about how to ask a good question, with particular emphasis on how to provide context.
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– Lee Mosher
Mar 25 at 16:41
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Thanks. Yes it is on the boundary of A×B.
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– SUDIP SINGHA
Mar 25 at 16:41
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Thanks. Yes it is on the boundary of A×B.
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– SUDIP SINGHA
Mar 25 at 16:41
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Similarly a point (x,y)in X×Y lies interior of A(x lies in intA)and boundary of B(y lies boundary of B) lies on boundary of A×B. Also a point (x,y) where x lies on boundary of A and y lies on boundary of B .Then it also lies on boundary of A×B. Are there another points not belonging type of those but in boundary of A×B?
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– SUDIP SINGHA
Mar 25 at 16:56
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Similarly a point (x,y)in X×Y lies interior of A(x lies in intA)and boundary of B(y lies boundary of B) lies on boundary of A×B. Also a point (x,y) where x lies on boundary of A and y lies on boundary of B .Then it also lies on boundary of A×B. Are there another points not belonging type of those but in boundary of A×B?
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Denoting by $partial A$ the boundary of $A$, we have
$$partial (A times B) = (partial A times overline{B}) cup (overline{A} times partial B)tag{*}$$
and we can expand that if you like, using $overline{C} = C cup partial C$ (for all $C$) as
$$(partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B) cup (partial A times partial B)= (partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B)$$
eliminating the double term, if you want everything in terms of the original sets and their boundaries.
The first identity $(ast)$ is a straightforward application of the definitions of boundary and the product topology, showing two inclusions. Try to prove it. You can attempt a more algebraic proof if you already know
$$overline{A times B}= overline{A} times overline{B}$$
$$operatorname{int}(A times B) = operatorname{int}(A) times operatorname{int}(B)$$
and $$partial C = overline{C}setminus operatorname{int}(C)$$
applied to $C=A times B$.
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Denoting by $partial A$ the boundary of $A$, we have
$$partial (A times B) = (partial A times overline{B}) cup (overline{A} times partial B)tag{*}$$
and we can expand that if you like, using $overline{C} = C cup partial C$ (for all $C$) as
$$(partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B) cup (partial A times partial B)= (partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B)$$
eliminating the double term, if you want everything in terms of the original sets and their boundaries.
The first identity $(ast)$ is a straightforward application of the definitions of boundary and the product topology, showing two inclusions. Try to prove it. You can attempt a more algebraic proof if you already know
$$overline{A times B}= overline{A} times overline{B}$$
$$operatorname{int}(A times B) = operatorname{int}(A) times operatorname{int}(B)$$
and $$partial C = overline{C}setminus operatorname{int}(C)$$
applied to $C=A times B$.
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Denoting by $partial A$ the boundary of $A$, we have
$$partial (A times B) = (partial A times overline{B}) cup (overline{A} times partial B)tag{*}$$
and we can expand that if you like, using $overline{C} = C cup partial C$ (for all $C$) as
$$(partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B) cup (partial A times partial B)= (partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B)$$
eliminating the double term, if you want everything in terms of the original sets and their boundaries.
The first identity $(ast)$ is a straightforward application of the definitions of boundary and the product topology, showing two inclusions. Try to prove it. You can attempt a more algebraic proof if you already know
$$overline{A times B}= overline{A} times overline{B}$$
$$operatorname{int}(A times B) = operatorname{int}(A) times operatorname{int}(B)$$
and $$partial C = overline{C}setminus operatorname{int}(C)$$
applied to $C=A times B$.
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Denoting by $partial A$ the boundary of $A$, we have
$$partial (A times B) = (partial A times overline{B}) cup (overline{A} times partial B)tag{*}$$
and we can expand that if you like, using $overline{C} = C cup partial C$ (for all $C$) as
$$(partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B) cup (partial A times partial B)= (partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B)$$
eliminating the double term, if you want everything in terms of the original sets and their boundaries.
The first identity $(ast)$ is a straightforward application of the definitions of boundary and the product topology, showing two inclusions. Try to prove it. You can attempt a more algebraic proof if you already know
$$overline{A times B}= overline{A} times overline{B}$$
$$operatorname{int}(A times B) = operatorname{int}(A) times operatorname{int}(B)$$
and $$partial C = overline{C}setminus operatorname{int}(C)$$
applied to $C=A times B$.
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Denoting by $partial A$ the boundary of $A$, we have
$$partial (A times B) = (partial A times overline{B}) cup (overline{A} times partial B)tag{*}$$
and we can expand that if you like, using $overline{C} = C cup partial C$ (for all $C$) as
$$(partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B) cup (partial A times partial B)= (partial A times B)cup (partial A times partial B) cup (A times partial B)$$
eliminating the double term, if you want everything in terms of the original sets and their boundaries.
The first identity $(ast)$ is a straightforward application of the definitions of boundary and the product topology, showing two inclusions. Try to prove it. You can attempt a more algebraic proof if you already know
$$overline{A times B}= overline{A} times overline{B}$$
$$operatorname{int}(A times B) = operatorname{int}(A) times operatorname{int}(B)$$
and $$partial C = overline{C}setminus operatorname{int}(C)$$
applied to $C=A times B$.
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Welcome to Math.SE! What do you think should be the correct approach to solving the problem? Where are you getting stuck? HINT If a point is on the boundary of $A$ and in the interior of $B$, is it on the boundary of $A times B$?
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What are your thoughts on this question? Have you made any progress? Are you stuck in any particular place? Please note that questions which simply demand a solution, without any evidence of your work, are often closed here on math.stackexchange. Here's some information about how to ask a good question, with particular emphasis on how to provide context.
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– Lee Mosher
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Thanks. Yes it is on the boundary of A×B.
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– SUDIP SINGHA
Mar 25 at 16:41
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Similarly a point (x,y)in X×Y lies interior of A(x lies in intA)and boundary of B(y lies boundary of B) lies on boundary of A×B. Also a point (x,y) where x lies on boundary of A and y lies on boundary of B .Then it also lies on boundary of A×B. Are there another points not belonging type of those but in boundary of A×B?
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