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Computing the sum of inverses of some roots of 1 in a field, given their sum


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Fix an algebraically closed field $F$.



Let $alpha_1,dotsc,alpha_nin F$ be roots of $1$.
Let $x=alpha_1+dotsc+alpha_n$ and $y=alpha_1^{-1}+dotsc+alpha_n^{-1}$.



I was thinking: Given $n$ and $x$, can we compute $y$?



If $F=mathbb{C}$ the answer is positive: $y$ is the complex conjugate of $x$.



If $F$ is the algebraic closure of the field with $5$ elements, the answer is negative. Both $alpha_1=1,alpha_2=1$ and $alpha_1=3,alpha_2=4$ give $x=2$, but the former gives $y=2$ while the latter gives $y=1$.



So the answer depends on $F$.




Question: What are the algebraically closed fields $F$ where we can always compute $y$ as a function of $n$ and $x$?




Partial answers are welcome too.










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    Fix an algebraically closed field $F$.



    Let $alpha_1,dotsc,alpha_nin F$ be roots of $1$.
    Let $x=alpha_1+dotsc+alpha_n$ and $y=alpha_1^{-1}+dotsc+alpha_n^{-1}$.



    I was thinking: Given $n$ and $x$, can we compute $y$?



    If $F=mathbb{C}$ the answer is positive: $y$ is the complex conjugate of $x$.



    If $F$ is the algebraic closure of the field with $5$ elements, the answer is negative. Both $alpha_1=1,alpha_2=1$ and $alpha_1=3,alpha_2=4$ give $x=2$, but the former gives $y=2$ while the latter gives $y=1$.



    So the answer depends on $F$.




    Question: What are the algebraically closed fields $F$ where we can always compute $y$ as a function of $n$ and $x$?




    Partial answers are welcome too.










    share|cite|improve this question







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    Chris A is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
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      Fix an algebraically closed field $F$.



      Let $alpha_1,dotsc,alpha_nin F$ be roots of $1$.
      Let $x=alpha_1+dotsc+alpha_n$ and $y=alpha_1^{-1}+dotsc+alpha_n^{-1}$.



      I was thinking: Given $n$ and $x$, can we compute $y$?



      If $F=mathbb{C}$ the answer is positive: $y$ is the complex conjugate of $x$.



      If $F$ is the algebraic closure of the field with $5$ elements, the answer is negative. Both $alpha_1=1,alpha_2=1$ and $alpha_1=3,alpha_2=4$ give $x=2$, but the former gives $y=2$ while the latter gives $y=1$.



      So the answer depends on $F$.




      Question: What are the algebraically closed fields $F$ where we can always compute $y$ as a function of $n$ and $x$?




      Partial answers are welcome too.










      share|cite|improve this question







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      Fix an algebraically closed field $F$.



      Let $alpha_1,dotsc,alpha_nin F$ be roots of $1$.
      Let $x=alpha_1+dotsc+alpha_n$ and $y=alpha_1^{-1}+dotsc+alpha_n^{-1}$.



      I was thinking: Given $n$ and $x$, can we compute $y$?



      If $F=mathbb{C}$ the answer is positive: $y$ is the complex conjugate of $x$.



      If $F$ is the algebraic closure of the field with $5$ elements, the answer is negative. Both $alpha_1=1,alpha_2=1$ and $alpha_1=3,alpha_2=4$ give $x=2$, but the former gives $y=2$ while the latter gives $y=1$.



      So the answer depends on $F$.




      Question: What are the algebraically closed fields $F$ where we can always compute $y$ as a function of $n$ and $x$?




      Partial answers are welcome too.







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