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What is the meaning and function of 幸 in “则幸分我一杯羹”?


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      What is the meaning and function of "幸" in the following sentence?




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          幸 in this context means to hope for.




          吾翁即若翁。必欲烹爾翁,則幸分我一杯羹



          My old man is your old man. If you want to boil your old man alive, then I hope that you’ll share a portion of the soup with me.






          As far as I can find, the original text says 必欲烹「而」翁 rather than 必欲烹「爾」翁, but the interpretation is the same.






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          • What source do you have available that indicates 幸 means "hope" here?

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            @Apollyon 幸 doesn't necessarily mean hope - its common meaning that people are familiar with is fortune. However, hope is an extended meaning - consider the translation instead: may I be fortunate enough to receive a portion of the soup, which is another natural translation. Of course, 幸 means hope as one of the meanings given by standard reference dictionaries like 《漢語大詞典》: "12. 希望, 期望。 亦為表示希望之辭。"

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          幸 is hope that. The excerpt is from 《史记》 项羽 threatened 刘邦 that he would boil 刘邦's father alive. But 刘邦 was not afraid of him and said: "吾(my)翁(father)即(is)若(your)翁。(if you)必(must)欲(will,want)烹(boil alive)爾(your)翁,則(conjunction)(I)幸(hope)分(share)我(me)一杯(a bowl of)羹(soup)。



          Note: 刘邦 and 项羽 once 拜为兄弟






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          • Some sources say it is an adverb: <副>敬词,希望对方照自己的意见做,可译为“希望”。《孔雀东南飞》:“幸可广问讯,不得便相许。”

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          • That is true. Classical Chinese is not strict on part of speech.

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          • Here's an example that requires 幸 to be treated as an adverb: 吾子幸觀焉. The source passage indicate 吾子 is not the person bearing the hope. Rather, the intended meaning is that the speaker hoped 吾子 (the addressee) would do something.

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          幸 literally means 'feel lucky for' or 'happy for'




          吾翁即若翁。必欲烹爾翁,則幸分我一杯羹



          My old man is your old man. If you want to boil your old man alive, then I would be happy to share a portion of the soup.




          'hope for' is extended meaning of 'happy for' -- When you are happy for something to happen, you are hoping for it to happen



          In the idiom: "幸災樂禍" (happy to see other people suffer) both 幸 and 樂 mean 'happy for'; 災禍 means disaster






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          • Why down vote? I said 幸 also means 'hope for', just stated the literal meaning of 幸 is 'feel lucky for" or "feel happy for" . Is that wrong?

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          • I didn't downvote, but I question your interpretation of 若.

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          • Now I see 若 is a typo from the OP's post.

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          • I don't think so, see zh.wikisource.org/zh-hant/%E5%8F%B2%E8%A8%98/%E5%8D%B7007 and ctext.org/shiji/xiang-yu-ben-ji/zh.

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          • 《漢語大詞典》「若」: 8. 你(的);你們(的)。 ▶ 《莊子•人間世》: “一若志, 無聽之以耳, 而聽之以心。”

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          幸 in this context means to hope for.




          吾翁即若翁。必欲烹爾翁,則幸分我一杯羹



          My old man is your old man. If you want to boil your old man alive, then I hope that you’ll share a portion of the soup with me.






          As far as I can find, the original text says 必欲烹「而」翁 rather than 必欲烹「爾」翁, but the interpretation is the same.






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          • What source do you have available that indicates 幸 means "hope" here?

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            @Apollyon 幸 doesn't necessarily mean hope - its common meaning that people are familiar with is fortune. However, hope is an extended meaning - consider the translation instead: may I be fortunate enough to receive a portion of the soup, which is another natural translation. Of course, 幸 means hope as one of the meanings given by standard reference dictionaries like 《漢語大詞典》: "12. 希望, 期望。 亦為表示希望之辭。"

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          幸 in this context means to hope for.




          吾翁即若翁。必欲烹爾翁,則幸分我一杯羹



          My old man is your old man. If you want to boil your old man alive, then I hope that you’ll share a portion of the soup with me.






          As far as I can find, the original text says 必欲烹「而」翁 rather than 必欲烹「爾」翁, but the interpretation is the same.






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          • What source do you have available that indicates 幸 means "hope" here?

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            @Apollyon 幸 doesn't necessarily mean hope - its common meaning that people are familiar with is fortune. However, hope is an extended meaning - consider the translation instead: may I be fortunate enough to receive a portion of the soup, which is another natural translation. Of course, 幸 means hope as one of the meanings given by standard reference dictionaries like 《漢語大詞典》: "12. 希望, 期望。 亦為表示希望之辭。"

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          • What is its part of speech? A verb, adjective, or adverb?

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          幸 in this context means to hope for.




          吾翁即若翁。必欲烹爾翁,則幸分我一杯羹



          My old man is your old man. If you want to boil your old man alive, then I hope that you’ll share a portion of the soup with me.






          As far as I can find, the original text says 必欲烹「而」翁 rather than 必欲烹「爾」翁, but the interpretation is the same.






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          幸 in this context means to hope for.




          吾翁即若翁。必欲烹爾翁,則幸分我一杯羹



          My old man is your old man. If you want to boil your old man alive, then I hope that you’ll share a portion of the soup with me.






          As far as I can find, the original text says 必欲烹「而」翁 rather than 必欲烹「爾」翁, but the interpretation is the same.







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          • What source do you have available that indicates 幸 means "hope" here?

            – Apollyon
            Mar 11 at 10:37






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            @Apollyon 幸 doesn't necessarily mean hope - its common meaning that people are familiar with is fortune. However, hope is an extended meaning - consider the translation instead: may I be fortunate enough to receive a portion of the soup, which is another natural translation. Of course, 幸 means hope as one of the meanings given by standard reference dictionaries like 《漢語大詞典》: "12. 希望, 期望。 亦為表示希望之辭。"

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          • What is its part of speech? A verb, adjective, or adverb?

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          • What source do you have available that indicates 幸 means "hope" here?

            – Apollyon
            Mar 11 at 10:37






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            @Apollyon 幸 doesn't necessarily mean hope - its common meaning that people are familiar with is fortune. However, hope is an extended meaning - consider the translation instead: may I be fortunate enough to receive a portion of the soup, which is another natural translation. Of course, 幸 means hope as one of the meanings given by standard reference dictionaries like 《漢語大詞典》: "12. 希望, 期望。 亦為表示希望之辭。"

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          • What is its part of speech? A verb, adjective, or adverb?

            – Apollyon
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          What source do you have available that indicates 幸 means "hope" here?

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          What source do you have available that indicates 幸 means "hope" here?

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          @Apollyon 幸 doesn't necessarily mean hope - its common meaning that people are familiar with is fortune. However, hope is an extended meaning - consider the translation instead: may I be fortunate enough to receive a portion of the soup, which is another natural translation. Of course, 幸 means hope as one of the meanings given by standard reference dictionaries like 《漢語大詞典》: "12. 希望, 期望。 亦為表示希望之辭。"

          – droooze
          Mar 11 at 10:42





          @Apollyon 幸 doesn't necessarily mean hope - its common meaning that people are familiar with is fortune. However, hope is an extended meaning - consider the translation instead: may I be fortunate enough to receive a portion of the soup, which is another natural translation. Of course, 幸 means hope as one of the meanings given by standard reference dictionaries like 《漢語大詞典》: "12. 希望, 期望。 亦為表示希望之辭。"

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          What is its part of speech? A verb, adjective, or adverb?

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          What is its part of speech? A verb, adjective, or adverb?

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          幸 is hope that. The excerpt is from 《史记》 项羽 threatened 刘邦 that he would boil 刘邦's father alive. But 刘邦 was not afraid of him and said: "吾(my)翁(father)即(is)若(your)翁。(if you)必(must)欲(will,want)烹(boil alive)爾(your)翁,則(conjunction)(I)幸(hope)分(share)我(me)一杯(a bowl of)羹(soup)。



          Note: 刘邦 and 项羽 once 拜为兄弟






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          • Some sources say it is an adverb: <副>敬词,希望对方照自己的意见做,可译为“希望”。《孔雀东南飞》:“幸可广问讯,不得便相许。”

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          • wyw.hwxnet.com/view/hwxE5hwxB9hwxB8.html

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          • Moderators: I think this answer is an excellent demonstration of why its good to have Ruby text functionality as in this meta question. It's super-useful, and not just for readings/pinyin.

            – droooze
            Mar 11 at 11:23











          • That is true. Classical Chinese is not strict on part of speech.

            – Toosky Hierot
            Mar 11 at 11:55











          • Here's an example that requires 幸 to be treated as an adverb: 吾子幸觀焉. The source passage indicate 吾子 is not the person bearing the hope. Rather, the intended meaning is that the speaker hoped 吾子 (the addressee) would do something.

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          幸 is hope that. The excerpt is from 《史记》 项羽 threatened 刘邦 that he would boil 刘邦's father alive. But 刘邦 was not afraid of him and said: "吾(my)翁(father)即(is)若(your)翁。(if you)必(must)欲(will,want)烹(boil alive)爾(your)翁,則(conjunction)(I)幸(hope)分(share)我(me)一杯(a bowl of)羹(soup)。



          Note: 刘邦 and 项羽 once 拜为兄弟






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          • Some sources say it is an adverb: <副>敬词,希望对方照自己的意见做,可译为“希望”。《孔雀东南飞》:“幸可广问讯,不得便相许。”

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          • wyw.hwxnet.com/view/hwxE5hwxB9hwxB8.html

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          • Moderators: I think this answer is an excellent demonstration of why its good to have Ruby text functionality as in this meta question. It's super-useful, and not just for readings/pinyin.

            – droooze
            Mar 11 at 11:23











          • That is true. Classical Chinese is not strict on part of speech.

            – Toosky Hierot
            Mar 11 at 11:55











          • Here's an example that requires 幸 to be treated as an adverb: 吾子幸觀焉. The source passage indicate 吾子 is not the person bearing the hope. Rather, the intended meaning is that the speaker hoped 吾子 (the addressee) would do something.

            – Apollyon
            2 days ago














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          幸 is hope that. The excerpt is from 《史记》 项羽 threatened 刘邦 that he would boil 刘邦's father alive. But 刘邦 was not afraid of him and said: "吾(my)翁(father)即(is)若(your)翁。(if you)必(must)欲(will,want)烹(boil alive)爾(your)翁,則(conjunction)(I)幸(hope)分(share)我(me)一杯(a bowl of)羹(soup)。



          Note: 刘邦 and 项羽 once 拜为兄弟






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          幸 is hope that. The excerpt is from 《史记》 项羽 threatened 刘邦 that he would boil 刘邦's father alive. But 刘邦 was not afraid of him and said: "吾(my)翁(father)即(is)若(your)翁。(if you)必(must)欲(will,want)烹(boil alive)爾(your)翁,則(conjunction)(I)幸(hope)分(share)我(me)一杯(a bowl of)羹(soup)。



          Note: 刘邦 and 项羽 once 拜为兄弟







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          • Some sources say it is an adverb: <副>敬词,希望对方照自己的意见做,可译为“希望”。《孔雀东南飞》:“幸可广问讯,不得便相许。”

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          • wyw.hwxnet.com/view/hwxE5hwxB9hwxB8.html

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          • Moderators: I think this answer is an excellent demonstration of why its good to have Ruby text functionality as in this meta question. It's super-useful, and not just for readings/pinyin.

            – droooze
            Mar 11 at 11:23











          • That is true. Classical Chinese is not strict on part of speech.

            – Toosky Hierot
            Mar 11 at 11:55











          • Here's an example that requires 幸 to be treated as an adverb: 吾子幸觀焉. The source passage indicate 吾子 is not the person bearing the hope. Rather, the intended meaning is that the speaker hoped 吾子 (the addressee) would do something.

            – Apollyon
            2 days ago



















          • Some sources say it is an adverb: <副>敬词,希望对方照自己的意见做,可译为“希望”。《孔雀东南飞》:“幸可广问讯,不得便相许。”

            – Apollyon
            Mar 11 at 11:20











          • wyw.hwxnet.com/view/hwxE5hwxB9hwxB8.html

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            Mar 11 at 11:20











          • Moderators: I think this answer is an excellent demonstration of why its good to have Ruby text functionality as in this meta question. It's super-useful, and not just for readings/pinyin.

            – droooze
            Mar 11 at 11:23











          • That is true. Classical Chinese is not strict on part of speech.

            – Toosky Hierot
            Mar 11 at 11:55











          • Here's an example that requires 幸 to be treated as an adverb: 吾子幸觀焉. The source passage indicate 吾子 is not the person bearing the hope. Rather, the intended meaning is that the speaker hoped 吾子 (the addressee) would do something.

            – Apollyon
            2 days ago

















          Some sources say it is an adverb: <副>敬词,希望对方照自己的意见做,可译为“希望”。《孔雀东南飞》:“幸可广问讯,不得便相许。”

          – Apollyon
          Mar 11 at 11:20





          Some sources say it is an adverb: <副>敬词,希望对方照自己的意见做,可译为“希望”。《孔雀东南飞》:“幸可广问讯,不得便相许。”

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          wyw.hwxnet.com/view/hwxE5hwxB9hwxB8.html

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          wyw.hwxnet.com/view/hwxE5hwxB9hwxB8.html

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          Moderators: I think this answer is an excellent demonstration of why its good to have Ruby text functionality as in this meta question. It's super-useful, and not just for readings/pinyin.

          – droooze
          Mar 11 at 11:23





          Moderators: I think this answer is an excellent demonstration of why its good to have Ruby text functionality as in this meta question. It's super-useful, and not just for readings/pinyin.

          – droooze
          Mar 11 at 11:23













          That is true. Classical Chinese is not strict on part of speech.

          – Toosky Hierot
          Mar 11 at 11:55





          That is true. Classical Chinese is not strict on part of speech.

          – Toosky Hierot
          Mar 11 at 11:55













          Here's an example that requires 幸 to be treated as an adverb: 吾子幸觀焉. The source passage indicate 吾子 is not the person bearing the hope. Rather, the intended meaning is that the speaker hoped 吾子 (the addressee) would do something.

          – Apollyon
          2 days ago





          Here's an example that requires 幸 to be treated as an adverb: 吾子幸觀焉. The source passage indicate 吾子 is not the person bearing the hope. Rather, the intended meaning is that the speaker hoped 吾子 (the addressee) would do something.

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          幸 literally means 'feel lucky for' or 'happy for'




          吾翁即若翁。必欲烹爾翁,則幸分我一杯羹



          My old man is your old man. If you want to boil your old man alive, then I would be happy to share a portion of the soup.




          'hope for' is extended meaning of 'happy for' -- When you are happy for something to happen, you are hoping for it to happen



          In the idiom: "幸災樂禍" (happy to see other people suffer) both 幸 and 樂 mean 'happy for'; 災禍 means disaster






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          • Why down vote? I said 幸 also means 'hope for', just stated the literal meaning of 幸 is 'feel lucky for" or "feel happy for" . Is that wrong?

            – Tang Ho
            Mar 11 at 10:59













          • I didn't downvote, but I question your interpretation of 若.

            – droooze
            Mar 11 at 11:02











          • Now I see 若 is a typo from the OP's post.

            – Tang Ho
            Mar 11 at 11:04













          • I don't think so, see zh.wikisource.org/zh-hant/%E5%8F%B2%E8%A8%98/%E5%8D%B7007 and ctext.org/shiji/xiang-yu-ben-ji/zh.

            – droooze
            Mar 11 at 11:05











          • 《漢語大詞典》「若」: 8. 你(的);你們(的)。 ▶ 《莊子•人間世》: “一若志, 無聽之以耳, 而聽之以心。”

            – droooze
            Mar 11 at 11:07


















          3














          幸 literally means 'feel lucky for' or 'happy for'




          吾翁即若翁。必欲烹爾翁,則幸分我一杯羹



          My old man is your old man. If you want to boil your old man alive, then I would be happy to share a portion of the soup.




          'hope for' is extended meaning of 'happy for' -- When you are happy for something to happen, you are hoping for it to happen



          In the idiom: "幸災樂禍" (happy to see other people suffer) both 幸 and 樂 mean 'happy for'; 災禍 means disaster






          share|improve this answer


























          • Why down vote? I said 幸 also means 'hope for', just stated the literal meaning of 幸 is 'feel lucky for" or "feel happy for" . Is that wrong?

            – Tang Ho
            Mar 11 at 10:59













          • I didn't downvote, but I question your interpretation of 若.

            – droooze
            Mar 11 at 11:02











          • Now I see 若 is a typo from the OP's post.

            – Tang Ho
            Mar 11 at 11:04













          • I don't think so, see zh.wikisource.org/zh-hant/%E5%8F%B2%E8%A8%98/%E5%8D%B7007 and ctext.org/shiji/xiang-yu-ben-ji/zh.

            – droooze
            Mar 11 at 11:05











          • 《漢語大詞典》「若」: 8. 你(的);你們(的)。 ▶ 《莊子•人間世》: “一若志, 無聽之以耳, 而聽之以心。”

            – droooze
            Mar 11 at 11:07
















          3












          3








          3







          幸 literally means 'feel lucky for' or 'happy for'




          吾翁即若翁。必欲烹爾翁,則幸分我一杯羹



          My old man is your old man. If you want to boil your old man alive, then I would be happy to share a portion of the soup.




          'hope for' is extended meaning of 'happy for' -- When you are happy for something to happen, you are hoping for it to happen



          In the idiom: "幸災樂禍" (happy to see other people suffer) both 幸 and 樂 mean 'happy for'; 災禍 means disaster






          share|improve this answer















          幸 literally means 'feel lucky for' or 'happy for'




          吾翁即若翁。必欲烹爾翁,則幸分我一杯羹



          My old man is your old man. If you want to boil your old man alive, then I would be happy to share a portion of the soup.




          'hope for' is extended meaning of 'happy for' -- When you are happy for something to happen, you are hoping for it to happen



          In the idiom: "幸災樂禍" (happy to see other people suffer) both 幸 and 樂 mean 'happy for'; 災禍 means disaster







          share|improve this answer














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          answered Mar 11 at 10:50









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          • Why down vote? I said 幸 also means 'hope for', just stated the literal meaning of 幸 is 'feel lucky for" or "feel happy for" . Is that wrong?

            – Tang Ho
            Mar 11 at 10:59













          • I didn't downvote, but I question your interpretation of 若.

            – droooze
            Mar 11 at 11:02











          • Now I see 若 is a typo from the OP's post.

            – Tang Ho
            Mar 11 at 11:04













          • I don't think so, see zh.wikisource.org/zh-hant/%E5%8F%B2%E8%A8%98/%E5%8D%B7007 and ctext.org/shiji/xiang-yu-ben-ji/zh.

            – droooze
            Mar 11 at 11:05











          • 《漢語大詞典》「若」: 8. 你(的);你們(的)。 ▶ 《莊子•人間世》: “一若志, 無聽之以耳, 而聽之以心。”

            – droooze
            Mar 11 at 11:07





















          • Why down vote? I said 幸 also means 'hope for', just stated the literal meaning of 幸 is 'feel lucky for" or "feel happy for" . Is that wrong?

            – Tang Ho
            Mar 11 at 10:59













          • I didn't downvote, but I question your interpretation of 若.

            – droooze
            Mar 11 at 11:02











          • Now I see 若 is a typo from the OP's post.

            – Tang Ho
            Mar 11 at 11:04













          • I don't think so, see zh.wikisource.org/zh-hant/%E5%8F%B2%E8%A8%98/%E5%8D%B7007 and ctext.org/shiji/xiang-yu-ben-ji/zh.

            – droooze
            Mar 11 at 11:05











          • 《漢語大詞典》「若」: 8. 你(的);你們(的)。 ▶ 《莊子•人間世》: “一若志, 無聽之以耳, 而聽之以心。”

            – droooze
            Mar 11 at 11:07



















          Why down vote? I said 幸 also means 'hope for', just stated the literal meaning of 幸 is 'feel lucky for" or "feel happy for" . Is that wrong?

          – Tang Ho
          Mar 11 at 10:59







          Why down vote? I said 幸 also means 'hope for', just stated the literal meaning of 幸 is 'feel lucky for" or "feel happy for" . Is that wrong?

          – Tang Ho
          Mar 11 at 10:59















          I didn't downvote, but I question your interpretation of 若.

          – droooze
          Mar 11 at 11:02





          I didn't downvote, but I question your interpretation of 若.

          – droooze
          Mar 11 at 11:02













          Now I see 若 is a typo from the OP's post.

          – Tang Ho
          Mar 11 at 11:04







          Now I see 若 is a typo from the OP's post.

          – Tang Ho
          Mar 11 at 11:04















          I don't think so, see zh.wikisource.org/zh-hant/%E5%8F%B2%E8%A8%98/%E5%8D%B7007 and ctext.org/shiji/xiang-yu-ben-ji/zh.

          – droooze
          Mar 11 at 11:05





          I don't think so, see zh.wikisource.org/zh-hant/%E5%8F%B2%E8%A8%98/%E5%8D%B7007 and ctext.org/shiji/xiang-yu-ben-ji/zh.

          – droooze
          Mar 11 at 11:05













          《漢語大詞典》「若」: 8. 你(的);你們(的)。 ▶ 《莊子•人間世》: “一若志, 無聽之以耳, 而聽之以心。”

          – droooze
          Mar 11 at 11:07







          《漢語大詞典》「若」: 8. 你(的);你們(的)。 ▶ 《莊子•人間世》: “一若志, 無聽之以耳, 而聽之以心。”

          – droooze
          Mar 11 at 11:07




















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