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Unclear English sentence containing “with was”

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Disconcerting as the grin he then waited my pleasure with was the cast of his features, not just like any I had seen.

I do not perfectly understand "with was" -- with what? This is rather confusing for me.

I am not a native speaker.

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  Is this from something or did you write it yourself? This sentence is incorrect grammatically. There are many issues as a result. Also, wrong Stack.
  
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  Questions about a sentence you read somewhere and do not understand belong on English Language Learners. It would be helpful to those who would answer you if you could provide the source of the sentence: where did you find it?
  
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  I found the source, and it seems to be neo-archaic speech. Poorly written garbage. From 1966: Giles Goat-boy, Or, The Revised New Syllabus
  
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  The sentence is not grammatically incorrect, although it does use an unusual form.
  
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Consider:

Disconcerting as the grin he then waited my pleasure with was the cast of his features, not just like any I had seen.

I do not perfectly understand "with was" -- with what? This is rather confusing for me.

I am not a native speaker.

style

share|improve this question

edited Mar 17 at 11:47

Peter Mortensen

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asked Mar 16 at 23:00

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migrated from writing.stackexchange.com Mar 17 at 2:57

This question came from our site for the craft of professional writing, including fiction, non-fiction, technical, scholarly, and commercial writing.

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  Is this from something or did you write it yourself? This sentence is incorrect grammatically. There are many issues as a result. Also, wrong Stack.
  
  – Sora Tamashii
  Mar 16 at 23:08
  

  
  
  
  


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  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Questions about a sentence you read somewhere and do not understand belong on English Language Learners. It would be helpful to those who would answer you if you could provide the source of the sentence: where did you find it?
  
  – Galastel
  Mar 16 at 23:14
  

  
  
  
  


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  2
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I found the source, and it seems to be neo-archaic speech. Poorly written garbage. From 1966: Giles Goat-boy, Or, The Revised New Syllabus
  
  – Sora Tamashii
  Mar 16 at 23:14
  

  
  
  
  


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  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  The sentence is not grammatically incorrect, although it does use an unusual form.
  
  – David Siegel
  Mar 17 at 4:31
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

Consider:

Disconcerting as the grin he then waited my pleasure with was the cast of his features, not just like any I had seen.

I do not perfectly understand "with was" -- with what? This is rather confusing for me.

I am not a native speaker.

style

share|improve this question

edited Mar 17 at 11:47

Peter Mortensen

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asked Mar 16 at 23:00

As Vet

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edited Mar 17 at 11:47

Peter Mortensen

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asked Mar 16 at 23:00

As Vet

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edited Mar 17 at 11:47

Peter Mortensen

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The sentence would probably be better as follows:

He grinned disconcertingly then waited. My interest was held by the form of his features which just were not like any I had seen.

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answered Mar 16 at 23:12

Sora TamashiiSora Tamashii

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  Okay, thank you. Your simplified version made me realize that "Disconcerting as the grin he then waited my pleasure with" is all together and I could find 'wait upon his pleasure' by Shakespeare. This is John Barth, his style is nearly perfect. I could not exactly break down the sentence, I should have associated 'wait with' right away. Sorry.
  
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  Mar 16 at 23:18
  

  
  
  
  


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  No. You're fine. Just wanting to help as best I can. :)
  
  – Sora Tamashii
  Mar 16 at 23:23
  

  
  
  
  

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An alternate version of this sentence would be

The look of his features -- not just like any I had seen -- was as disconcerting to me as the grin he showed as he waited for my response.

The speaker makes clear that he is upset, mildly upset, by both the unusual facial features of his visitor and by the grin that the visitor showed. He equates these two sources of upset. The phrase "waited my pleasure with" is somewhat archaic, but in no way wrong. I would not imitate it in most writing, however.

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The sentence would probably be better as follows:

He grinned disconcertingly then waited. My interest was held by the form of his features which just were not like any I had seen.

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answered Mar 16 at 23:12

Sora TamashiiSora Tamashii

1412

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Okay, thank you. Your simplified version made me realize that "Disconcerting as the grin he then waited my pleasure with" is all together and I could find 'wait upon his pleasure' by Shakespeare. This is John Barth, his style is nearly perfect. I could not exactly break down the sentence, I should have associated 'wait with' right away. Sorry.
  
  – As Vet
  Mar 16 at 23:18
  

  
  
  
  


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  No. You're fine. Just wanting to help as best I can. :)
  
  – Sora Tamashii
  Mar 16 at 23:23
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

4

The sentence would probably be better as follows:

He grinned disconcertingly then waited. My interest was held by the form of his features which just were not like any I had seen.

share|improve this answer

answered Mar 16 at 23:12

Sora TamashiiSora Tamashii

1412

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Okay, thank you. Your simplified version made me realize that "Disconcerting as the grin he then waited my pleasure with" is all together and I could find 'wait upon his pleasure' by Shakespeare. This is John Barth, his style is nearly perfect. I could not exactly break down the sentence, I should have associated 'wait with' right away. Sorry.
  
  – As Vet
  Mar 16 at 23:18
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  No. You're fine. Just wanting to help as best I can. :)
  
  – Sora Tamashii
  Mar 16 at 23:23
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

The sentence would probably be better as follows:

He grinned disconcertingly then waited. My interest was held by the form of his features which just were not like any I had seen.

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answered Mar 16 at 23:12

Sora TamashiiSora Tamashii

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answered Mar 16 at 23:12

Sora TamashiiSora Tamashii

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answered Mar 16 at 23:12

Sora TamashiiSora Tamashii

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answered Mar 16 at 23:12

Sora TamashiiSora Tamashii

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An alternate version of this sentence would be

The look of his features -- not just like any I had seen -- was as disconcerting to me as the grin he showed as he waited for my response.

The speaker makes clear that he is upset, mildly upset, by both the unusual facial features of his visitor and by the grin that the visitor showed. He equates these two sources of upset. The phrase "waited my pleasure with" is somewhat archaic, but in no way wrong. I would not imitate it in most writing, however.

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answered Mar 17 at 4:38

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An alternate version of this sentence would be

The look of his features -- not just like any I had seen -- was as disconcerting to me as the grin he showed as he waited for my response.

The speaker makes clear that he is upset, mildly upset, by both the unusual facial features of his visitor and by the grin that the visitor showed. He equates these two sources of upset. The phrase "waited my pleasure with" is somewhat archaic, but in no way wrong. I would not imitate it in most writing, however.

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answered Mar 17 at 4:38

David SiegelDavid Siegel

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An alternate version of this sentence would be

The look of his features -- not just like any I had seen -- was as disconcerting to me as the grin he showed as he waited for my response.

The speaker makes clear that he is upset, mildly upset, by both the unusual facial features of his visitor and by the grin that the visitor showed. He equates these two sources of upset. The phrase "waited my pleasure with" is somewhat archaic, but in no way wrong. I would not imitate it in most writing, however.

share|improve this answer

answered Mar 17 at 4:38

David SiegelDavid Siegel

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share|improve this answer

answered Mar 17 at 4:38

David SiegelDavid Siegel

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answered Mar 17 at 4:38

David SiegelDavid Siegel

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answered Mar 17 at 4:38

David SiegelDavid Siegel

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