Prove that if $h_{1},h_{2} in H$ and $k_{1},k_{2} in K$ and $h_{1}k_{1}=h_{2}k_{2}$ , then $h_{1}=h_{2}$ and...
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Prove that if $h_{1},h_{2} in H$ and $k_{1},k_{2} in K$ and $h_{1}k_{1}=h_{2}k_{2}$ , then $h_{1}=h_{2}$ and $k_{1}=k_{2}$
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Suppose $G$ is a group with identity element $1$, that $H$ and $K$ are normal subgroups of $G$, and that $Hcap K={1}$. Prove that if $h_{1},h_{2} in H$, $k_{1},k_{2} in K$ and $h_{1}k_{1}=h_{2}k_{2}$, then $h_{1}=h_{2}$ and $k_{1}=k_{2}$.
My attempt:
$h_{1}k_{1}=h_{2}k_{2}$ then $k_{1}=h_{1}^{-1}h_{2}k_{2}$
so $h_{1}^{-1}h_{2}=1$ and $k_{1}=k_{2}$, because $Hcap K={1}$.
Any tips, hints would be greatly appreciated.
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Suppose $G$ is a group with identity element $1$, that $H$ and $K$ are normal subgroups of $G$, and that $Hcap K={1}$. Prove that if $h_{1},h_{2} in H$, $k_{1},k_{2} in K$ and $h_{1}k_{1}=h_{2}k_{2}$, then $h_{1}=h_{2}$ and $k_{1}=k_{2}$.
My attempt:
$h_{1}k_{1}=h_{2}k_{2}$ then $k_{1}=h_{1}^{-1}h_{2}k_{2}$
so $h_{1}^{-1}h_{2}=1$ and $k_{1}=k_{2}$, because $Hcap K={1}$.
Any tips, hints would be greatly appreciated.
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Suppose $G$ is a group with identity element $1$, that $H$ and $K$ are normal subgroups of $G$, and that $Hcap K={1}$. Prove that if $h_{1},h_{2} in H$, $k_{1},k_{2} in K$ and $h_{1}k_{1}=h_{2}k_{2}$, then $h_{1}=h_{2}$ and $k_{1}=k_{2}$.
My attempt:
$h_{1}k_{1}=h_{2}k_{2}$ then $k_{1}=h_{1}^{-1}h_{2}k_{2}$
so $h_{1}^{-1}h_{2}=1$ and $k_{1}=k_{2}$, because $Hcap K={1}$.
Any tips, hints would be greatly appreciated.
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Suppose $G$ is a group with identity element $1$, that $H$ and $K$ are normal subgroups of $G$, and that $Hcap K={1}$. Prove that if $h_{1},h_{2} in H$, $k_{1},k_{2} in K$ and $h_{1}k_{1}=h_{2}k_{2}$, then $h_{1}=h_{2}$ and $k_{1}=k_{2}$.
My attempt:
$h_{1}k_{1}=h_{2}k_{2}$ then $k_{1}=h_{1}^{-1}h_{2}k_{2}$
so $h_{1}^{-1}h_{2}=1$ and $k_{1}=k_{2}$, because $Hcap K={1}$.
Any tips, hints would be greatly appreciated.
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I think you did not use the hypothesis correctly. $h_2^{-1}h_1=k_2k_1^{-1}$ so each side is in $H cap K={1}$ which gives $h_2=h_1$ and $k_2=k_1$
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Im trying to say that since $h_{1}^{-1}h_{2}$ is in H so it can't be in K unless they are both equal to the identity so the product must equal to 1 is that wrong?
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@Rivaldo I know you have the right idea but you did not express it correctly.
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I think you did not use the hypothesis correctly. $h_2^{-1}h_1=k_2k_1^{-1}$ so each side is in $H cap K={1}$ which gives $h_2=h_1$ and $k_2=k_1$
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Im trying to say that since $h_{1}^{-1}h_{2}$ is in H so it can't be in K unless they are both equal to the identity so the product must equal to 1 is that wrong?
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– Rivaldo
Mar 26 at 0:03
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@Rivaldo I know you have the right idea but you did not express it correctly.
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I think you did not use the hypothesis correctly. $h_2^{-1}h_1=k_2k_1^{-1}$ so each side is in $H cap K={1}$ which gives $h_2=h_1$ and $k_2=k_1$
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Im trying to say that since $h_{1}^{-1}h_{2}$ is in H so it can't be in K unless they are both equal to the identity so the product must equal to 1 is that wrong?
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– Rivaldo
Mar 26 at 0:03
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@Rivaldo I know you have the right idea but you did not express it correctly.
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I think you did not use the hypothesis correctly. $h_2^{-1}h_1=k_2k_1^{-1}$ so each side is in $H cap K={1}$ which gives $h_2=h_1$ and $k_2=k_1$
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I think you did not use the hypothesis correctly. $h_2^{-1}h_1=k_2k_1^{-1}$ so each side is in $H cap K={1}$ which gives $h_2=h_1$ and $k_2=k_1$
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Im trying to say that since $h_{1}^{-1}h_{2}$ is in H so it can't be in K unless they are both equal to the identity so the product must equal to 1 is that wrong?
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– Rivaldo
Mar 26 at 0:03
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@Rivaldo I know you have the right idea but you did not express it correctly.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Mar 26 at 0:05
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Im trying to say that since $h_{1}^{-1}h_{2}$ is in H so it can't be in K unless they are both equal to the identity so the product must equal to 1 is that wrong?
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– Rivaldo
Mar 26 at 0:03
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@Rivaldo I know you have the right idea but you did not express it correctly.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Mar 26 at 0:05
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Im trying to say that since $h_{1}^{-1}h_{2}$ is in H so it can't be in K unless they are both equal to the identity so the product must equal to 1 is that wrong?
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– Rivaldo
Mar 26 at 0:03
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Im trying to say that since $h_{1}^{-1}h_{2}$ is in H so it can't be in K unless they are both equal to the identity so the product must equal to 1 is that wrong?
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– Rivaldo
Mar 26 at 0:03
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@Rivaldo I know you have the right idea but you did not express it correctly.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
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@Rivaldo I know you have the right idea but you did not express it correctly.
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