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Addition chain with two sub-optimal sub-addition chains



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An addition chain is a finite sequence of positive integers that starts at $1$, so that any element of the sequence is a sum of two previous elements. That is, it is a sequence $(a_1, ldots, a_k)$ where $a_1 = 1$, and for each $i > 1$ there are $j, k < i$ such that $a_i = a_j + a_k$. An example of an addition chain is
$$
(1, 2, 3, 6, 12, 15).
$$

We call an addition chain that ends in $k$ an addition chain for $k$. We write $l(k)$ for the length of the shorted addition chain for $k$, not counting the 1 at the start of the sequence. Our example above shows that $l(15) leq 5$; in fact $l(15) = 5$.



You can read much more about addition chains on Achim Flammenkamp's page or on Wikipedia.



Write $C(k)$ for the set of addition chains for $k$, and $s(c)$ for the length of a chain $c$ (again not counting the initial 1). Furthermore, we use the notation $c_1 cup c_2$ informally to mean joining the chains $c_1, c_2$ while pruning repeat elements. Then we trivially have
$$
l(k) = min_{i < k \c_1 in C(i)\ c_2 in C(k - i)} s(c_1 cup c_2) + 1.
$$

Now in many cases, we will find that this minimum is not achieved if we restrict to $c_1, c_2$ such that $s(c_1) = l(i)$ and $s(c_2) = l(k - i)$; to achieve maximal overlap, we may want a sequence for one of the summands which is suboptimal. My question is:




Is it possible that we need both subsequences to be suboptimal? That is, is the same minimum attained if we restrict to pairs $(c_1, c_2)$ such that at least one of $s(c_1) = l(i)$ and $s(c_2) = l(k - i)$ holds?











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$begingroup$


An addition chain is a finite sequence of positive integers that starts at $1$, so that any element of the sequence is a sum of two previous elements. That is, it is a sequence $(a_1, ldots, a_k)$ where $a_1 = 1$, and for each $i > 1$ there are $j, k < i$ such that $a_i = a_j + a_k$. An example of an addition chain is
$$
(1, 2, 3, 6, 12, 15).
$$

We call an addition chain that ends in $k$ an addition chain for $k$. We write $l(k)$ for the length of the shorted addition chain for $k$, not counting the 1 at the start of the sequence. Our example above shows that $l(15) leq 5$; in fact $l(15) = 5$.



You can read much more about addition chains on Achim Flammenkamp's page or on Wikipedia.



Write $C(k)$ for the set of addition chains for $k$, and $s(c)$ for the length of a chain $c$ (again not counting the initial 1). Furthermore, we use the notation $c_1 cup c_2$ informally to mean joining the chains $c_1, c_2$ while pruning repeat elements. Then we trivially have
$$
l(k) = min_{i < k \c_1 in C(i)\ c_2 in C(k - i)} s(c_1 cup c_2) + 1.
$$

Now in many cases, we will find that this minimum is not achieved if we restrict to $c_1, c_2$ such that $s(c_1) = l(i)$ and $s(c_2) = l(k - i)$; to achieve maximal overlap, we may want a sequence for one of the summands which is suboptimal. My question is:




Is it possible that we need both subsequences to be suboptimal? That is, is the same minimum attained if we restrict to pairs $(c_1, c_2)$ such that at least one of $s(c_1) = l(i)$ and $s(c_2) = l(k - i)$ holds?











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$begingroup$


An addition chain is a finite sequence of positive integers that starts at $1$, so that any element of the sequence is a sum of two previous elements. That is, it is a sequence $(a_1, ldots, a_k)$ where $a_1 = 1$, and for each $i > 1$ there are $j, k < i$ such that $a_i = a_j + a_k$. An example of an addition chain is
$$
(1, 2, 3, 6, 12, 15).
$$

We call an addition chain that ends in $k$ an addition chain for $k$. We write $l(k)$ for the length of the shorted addition chain for $k$, not counting the 1 at the start of the sequence. Our example above shows that $l(15) leq 5$; in fact $l(15) = 5$.



You can read much more about addition chains on Achim Flammenkamp's page or on Wikipedia.



Write $C(k)$ for the set of addition chains for $k$, and $s(c)$ for the length of a chain $c$ (again not counting the initial 1). Furthermore, we use the notation $c_1 cup c_2$ informally to mean joining the chains $c_1, c_2$ while pruning repeat elements. Then we trivially have
$$
l(k) = min_{i < k \c_1 in C(i)\ c_2 in C(k - i)} s(c_1 cup c_2) + 1.
$$

Now in many cases, we will find that this minimum is not achieved if we restrict to $c_1, c_2$ such that $s(c_1) = l(i)$ and $s(c_2) = l(k - i)$; to achieve maximal overlap, we may want a sequence for one of the summands which is suboptimal. My question is:




Is it possible that we need both subsequences to be suboptimal? That is, is the same minimum attained if we restrict to pairs $(c_1, c_2)$ such that at least one of $s(c_1) = l(i)$ and $s(c_2) = l(k - i)$ holds?











share|cite|improve this question











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An addition chain is a finite sequence of positive integers that starts at $1$, so that any element of the sequence is a sum of two previous elements. That is, it is a sequence $(a_1, ldots, a_k)$ where $a_1 = 1$, and for each $i > 1$ there are $j, k < i$ such that $a_i = a_j + a_k$. An example of an addition chain is
$$
(1, 2, 3, 6, 12, 15).
$$

We call an addition chain that ends in $k$ an addition chain for $k$. We write $l(k)$ for the length of the shorted addition chain for $k$, not counting the 1 at the start of the sequence. Our example above shows that $l(15) leq 5$; in fact $l(15) = 5$.



You can read much more about addition chains on Achim Flammenkamp's page or on Wikipedia.



Write $C(k)$ for the set of addition chains for $k$, and $s(c)$ for the length of a chain $c$ (again not counting the initial 1). Furthermore, we use the notation $c_1 cup c_2$ informally to mean joining the chains $c_1, c_2$ while pruning repeat elements. Then we trivially have
$$
l(k) = min_{i < k \c_1 in C(i)\ c_2 in C(k - i)} s(c_1 cup c_2) + 1.
$$

Now in many cases, we will find that this minimum is not achieved if we restrict to $c_1, c_2$ such that $s(c_1) = l(i)$ and $s(c_2) = l(k - i)$; to achieve maximal overlap, we may want a sequence for one of the summands which is suboptimal. My question is:




Is it possible that we need both subsequences to be suboptimal? That is, is the same minimum attained if we restrict to pairs $(c_1, c_2)$ such that at least one of $s(c_1) = l(i)$ and $s(c_2) = l(k - i)$ holds?








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