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Show that $n$ is a prime number
Square free finite abelian group is cyclic$G$ is an abelian group of order a product of distinct primes $implies G$ is cyclic?Finite abelian groups and subgroups.Show that $G$ is cyclicProof for prime avoidance lemma.Showing abelian group order that is the product of primes is cyclicProof that multiplication of two numbers plus $2$ is a prime numberProve that there is an infinite number of prime numbersIf $|G| = p_1^{r_1}…p_k^{r_k}$ it is the direct internal product of its Sylow subgroupsOrder of an arbitrary (finite) product of subgroups $|N_1cdots N_k|$
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Let $ninmathbb{N}$, $ngeq2$ and $(G,.)$ an abelian group of order $n$, with the property that for any $ain G$, the number of endomorphisms of $G$ with $f(a)=a$ is equal to $n+1-ord(a)$, where $ord(a)$ is the order of $a$. Show that $n$ is a prime number.
My approach is to suppose that $n$ is not prime, so there is a decomposition for $n=p_1p_2...p_k$, where $p_1,dots ,p_k$ are prime numbers and from Cauchy's theorem there is an $ain G$ such that $ord(a)=p_i$. Now $f(e)=f(a^{p_i})=(f(a))^{p_i}=e$, and so the number of endomorphisms $f$ is $n+1-1=n$.
However, from the hypothesis, the number of $f$ is $n+1-p_i$, and so $n+1-p_i=n$ $Rightarrow p_i=1$. As we chosen $p_i$ arbitrarily, we get that all the numbers $p_i,iin{0,1,...,k}$ are $1Rightarrow n=1$, false with $ngeq2$.
Is my proof correct?
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Let $ninmathbb{N}$, $ngeq2$ and $(G,.)$ an abelian group of order $n$, with the property that for any $ain G$, the number of endomorphisms of $G$ with $f(a)=a$ is equal to $n+1-ord(a)$, where $ord(a)$ is the order of $a$. Show that $n$ is a prime number.
My approach is to suppose that $n$ is not prime, so there is a decomposition for $n=p_1p_2...p_k$, where $p_1,dots ,p_k$ are prime numbers and from Cauchy's theorem there is an $ain G$ such that $ord(a)=p_i$. Now $f(e)=f(a^{p_i})=(f(a))^{p_i}=e$, and so the number of endomorphisms $f$ is $n+1-1=n$.
However, from the hypothesis, the number of $f$ is $n+1-p_i$, and so $n+1-p_i=n$ $Rightarrow p_i=1$. As we chosen $p_i$ arbitrarily, we get that all the numbers $p_i,iin{0,1,...,k}$ are $1Rightarrow n=1$, false with $ngeq2$.
Is my proof correct?
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The problem seems ill-formed- wouldn't $f(e)=e$ always hold for any endomorphism fixing an element (regardless of the primality of $|G|$)?
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@Cardioid_Ass_22 but that needs to hold for all elements.
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Let $ninmathbb{N}$, $ngeq2$ and $(G,.)$ an abelian group of order $n$, with the property that for any $ain G$, the number of endomorphisms of $G$ with $f(a)=a$ is equal to $n+1-ord(a)$, where $ord(a)$ is the order of $a$. Show that $n$ is a prime number.
My approach is to suppose that $n$ is not prime, so there is a decomposition for $n=p_1p_2...p_k$, where $p_1,dots ,p_k$ are prime numbers and from Cauchy's theorem there is an $ain G$ such that $ord(a)=p_i$. Now $f(e)=f(a^{p_i})=(f(a))^{p_i}=e$, and so the number of endomorphisms $f$ is $n+1-1=n$.
However, from the hypothesis, the number of $f$ is $n+1-p_i$, and so $n+1-p_i=n$ $Rightarrow p_i=1$. As we chosen $p_i$ arbitrarily, we get that all the numbers $p_i,iin{0,1,...,k}$ are $1Rightarrow n=1$, false with $ngeq2$.
Is my proof correct?
abstract-algebra group-theory proof-verification finite-groups
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Let $ninmathbb{N}$, $ngeq2$ and $(G,.)$ an abelian group of order $n$, with the property that for any $ain G$, the number of endomorphisms of $G$ with $f(a)=a$ is equal to $n+1-ord(a)$, where $ord(a)$ is the order of $a$. Show that $n$ is a prime number.
My approach is to suppose that $n$ is not prime, so there is a decomposition for $n=p_1p_2...p_k$, where $p_1,dots ,p_k$ are prime numbers and from Cauchy's theorem there is an $ain G$ such that $ord(a)=p_i$. Now $f(e)=f(a^{p_i})=(f(a))^{p_i}=e$, and so the number of endomorphisms $f$ is $n+1-1=n$.
However, from the hypothesis, the number of $f$ is $n+1-p_i$, and so $n+1-p_i=n$ $Rightarrow p_i=1$. As we chosen $p_i$ arbitrarily, we get that all the numbers $p_i,iin{0,1,...,k}$ are $1Rightarrow n=1$, false with $ngeq2$.
Is my proof correct?
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The problem seems ill-formed- wouldn't $f(e)=e$ always hold for any endomorphism fixing an element (regardless of the primality of $|G|$)?
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– Cardioid_Ass_22
Mar 9 at 19:34
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@Cardioid_Ass_22 but that needs to hold for all elements.
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– enedil
Mar 9 at 19:49
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The problem seems ill-formed- wouldn't $f(e)=e$ always hold for any endomorphism fixing an element (regardless of the primality of $|G|$)?
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– Cardioid_Ass_22
Mar 9 at 19:34
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@Cardioid_Ass_22 but that needs to hold for all elements.
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– enedil
Mar 9 at 19:49
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The problem seems ill-formed- wouldn't $f(e)=e$ always hold for any endomorphism fixing an element (regardless of the primality of $|G|$)?
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– Cardioid_Ass_22
Mar 9 at 19:34
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The problem seems ill-formed- wouldn't $f(e)=e$ always hold for any endomorphism fixing an element (regardless of the primality of $|G|$)?
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– Cardioid_Ass_22
Mar 9 at 19:34
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@Cardioid_Ass_22 but that needs to hold for all elements.
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– enedil
Mar 9 at 19:49
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@Cardioid_Ass_22 but that needs to hold for all elements.
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You haven't used the hypothesis that the group is abelian.
I corrected some points of grammar & punctuation, though, too, like not starting a sentence with a mathematical symbol, adding a space after each comma, etc.
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Thanks! How should I use the fact that the group is abelian?
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– Jacob Denicula
Mar 9 at 19:24
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Based on what I understand, you don't need that hypothesis. This is a bad sign though. I'm inclined to think I'm wrong. Where is the problem from, @JacobDenicula?
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Mar 9 at 19:27
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A mathematical magazine. It doesn`t matter as it has no proof.
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You're right, it doesn't, epistemologically, @JacobDenicula. (Try to use ' instead of ` on this site for technical reasons.) If it has no proof, it has no proof. But to see whether it's likely to be correct, it helps to know from whence it came.
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You haven't used the hypothesis that the group is abelian.
I corrected some points of grammar & punctuation, though, too, like not starting a sentence with a mathematical symbol, adding a space after each comma, etc.
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Thanks! How should I use the fact that the group is abelian?
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– Jacob Denicula
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Based on what I understand, you don't need that hypothesis. This is a bad sign though. I'm inclined to think I'm wrong. Where is the problem from, @JacobDenicula?
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A mathematical magazine. It doesn`t matter as it has no proof.
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– Jacob Denicula
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You're right, it doesn't, epistemologically, @JacobDenicula. (Try to use ' instead of ` on this site for technical reasons.) If it has no proof, it has no proof. But to see whether it's likely to be correct, it helps to know from whence it came.
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This does not provide an answer to the question. To critique or request clarification from an author, leave a comment below their post. - From Review
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You haven't used the hypothesis that the group is abelian.
I corrected some points of grammar & punctuation, though, too, like not starting a sentence with a mathematical symbol, adding a space after each comma, etc.
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Thanks! How should I use the fact that the group is abelian?
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– Jacob Denicula
Mar 9 at 19:24
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Based on what I understand, you don't need that hypothesis. This is a bad sign though. I'm inclined to think I'm wrong. Where is the problem from, @JacobDenicula?
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– Shaun
Mar 9 at 19:27
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A mathematical magazine. It doesn`t matter as it has no proof.
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– Jacob Denicula
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You're right, it doesn't, epistemologically, @JacobDenicula. (Try to use ' instead of ` on this site for technical reasons.) If it has no proof, it has no proof. But to see whether it's likely to be correct, it helps to know from whence it came.
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This does not provide an answer to the question. To critique or request clarification from an author, leave a comment below their post. - From Review
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You haven't used the hypothesis that the group is abelian.
I corrected some points of grammar & punctuation, though, too, like not starting a sentence with a mathematical symbol, adding a space after each comma, etc.
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You haven't used the hypothesis that the group is abelian.
I corrected some points of grammar & punctuation, though, too, like not starting a sentence with a mathematical symbol, adding a space after each comma, etc.
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Thanks! How should I use the fact that the group is abelian?
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– Jacob Denicula
Mar 9 at 19:24
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Based on what I understand, you don't need that hypothesis. This is a bad sign though. I'm inclined to think I'm wrong. Where is the problem from, @JacobDenicula?
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– Shaun
Mar 9 at 19:27
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A mathematical magazine. It doesn`t matter as it has no proof.
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– Jacob Denicula
Mar 9 at 19:49
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You're right, it doesn't, epistemologically, @JacobDenicula. (Try to use ' instead of ` on this site for technical reasons.) If it has no proof, it has no proof. But to see whether it's likely to be correct, it helps to know from whence it came.
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– Shaun
Mar 9 at 19:59
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This does not provide an answer to the question. To critique or request clarification from an author, leave a comment below their post. - From Review
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– Alan Muniz
Mar 9 at 21:57
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Thanks! How should I use the fact that the group is abelian?
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– Jacob Denicula
Mar 9 at 19:24
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Based on what I understand, you don't need that hypothesis. This is a bad sign though. I'm inclined to think I'm wrong. Where is the problem from, @JacobDenicula?
$endgroup$
– Shaun
Mar 9 at 19:27
1
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A mathematical magazine. It doesn`t matter as it has no proof.
$endgroup$
– Jacob Denicula
Mar 9 at 19:49
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You're right, it doesn't, epistemologically, @JacobDenicula. (Try to use ' instead of ` on this site for technical reasons.) If it has no proof, it has no proof. But to see whether it's likely to be correct, it helps to know from whence it came.
$endgroup$
– Shaun
Mar 9 at 19:59
5
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This does not provide an answer to the question. To critique or request clarification from an author, leave a comment below their post. - From Review
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– Alan Muniz
Mar 9 at 21:57
1
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Thanks! How should I use the fact that the group is abelian?
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– Jacob Denicula
Mar 9 at 19:24
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Thanks! How should I use the fact that the group is abelian?
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– Jacob Denicula
Mar 9 at 19:24
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Based on what I understand, you don't need that hypothesis. This is a bad sign though. I'm inclined to think I'm wrong. Where is the problem from, @JacobDenicula?
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– Shaun
Mar 9 at 19:27
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Based on what I understand, you don't need that hypothesis. This is a bad sign though. I'm inclined to think I'm wrong. Where is the problem from, @JacobDenicula?
$endgroup$
– Shaun
Mar 9 at 19:27
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1
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A mathematical magazine. It doesn`t matter as it has no proof.
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– Jacob Denicula
Mar 9 at 19:49
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A mathematical magazine. It doesn`t matter as it has no proof.
$endgroup$
– Jacob Denicula
Mar 9 at 19:49
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You're right, it doesn't, epistemologically, @JacobDenicula. (Try to use ' instead of ` on this site for technical reasons.) If it has no proof, it has no proof. But to see whether it's likely to be correct, it helps to know from whence it came.
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– Shaun
Mar 9 at 19:59
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You're right, it doesn't, epistemologically, @JacobDenicula. (Try to use ' instead of ` on this site for technical reasons.) If it has no proof, it has no proof. But to see whether it's likely to be correct, it helps to know from whence it came.
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– Shaun
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5
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This does not provide an answer to the question. To critique or request clarification from an author, leave a comment below their post. - From Review
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– Alan Muniz
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The problem seems ill-formed- wouldn't $f(e)=e$ always hold for any endomorphism fixing an element (regardless of the primality of $|G|$)?
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– Cardioid_Ass_22
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@Cardioid_Ass_22 but that needs to hold for all elements.
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– enedil
Mar 9 at 19:49