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*Take a field $F$, algebraic closed, $charFneq 2$.



1)Consider the following ideal $I=(xy+yz+zx-frac{1}{2}u^2 , x+y+z+u)$ in $F[x,y,z,u]$.
Is $Z(I)$ affine variety in $A^4$?



2)Consider the following ideal $I=(x^2+y^2+z^2,x+y+z)$ in $F[x,y,z]$. Is $Z(I)$ affine variety in $A^3$*



How can I check, that it is variety?



I think, that my solutions are incorect, or noncomplete. For now I have:



1)$u=-x-y-z$, then $F[x,y,z,u]/I=F[x,y,z]/(x^2+y^2+z^2)$, polynomial $x^2+y^2+z^2$ is irreducible, so $Z(I)$ must be variety.



2)$x=-y-z$, then $F[x,y,z]/I=F[y,z]/(2(y^2+yz+z^2))$










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    What is your definition of a variety? This varies lots in the literature, so including it will help provide a better answer to your question.
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    I use the following definition: affine variety is an irreducible, closed subset of $A^n$
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I have a problem with this excercise:



*Take a field $F$, algebraic closed, $charFneq 2$.



1)Consider the following ideal $I=(xy+yz+zx-frac{1}{2}u^2 , x+y+z+u)$ in $F[x,y,z,u]$.
Is $Z(I)$ affine variety in $A^4$?



2)Consider the following ideal $I=(x^2+y^2+z^2,x+y+z)$ in $F[x,y,z]$. Is $Z(I)$ affine variety in $A^3$*



How can I check, that it is variety?



I think, that my solutions are incorect, or noncomplete. For now I have:



1)$u=-x-y-z$, then $F[x,y,z,u]/I=F[x,y,z]/(x^2+y^2+z^2)$, polynomial $x^2+y^2+z^2$ is irreducible, so $Z(I)$ must be variety.



2)$x=-y-z$, then $F[x,y,z]/I=F[y,z]/(2(y^2+yz+z^2))$










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    $begingroup$
    What is your definition of a variety? This varies lots in the literature, so including it will help provide a better answer to your question.
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    – KReiser
    Feb 8 at 23:23










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    I use the following definition: affine variety is an irreducible, closed subset of $A^n$
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    Feb 10 at 0:39
















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I have a problem with this excercise:



*Take a field $F$, algebraic closed, $charFneq 2$.



1)Consider the following ideal $I=(xy+yz+zx-frac{1}{2}u^2 , x+y+z+u)$ in $F[x,y,z,u]$.
Is $Z(I)$ affine variety in $A^4$?



2)Consider the following ideal $I=(x^2+y^2+z^2,x+y+z)$ in $F[x,y,z]$. Is $Z(I)$ affine variety in $A^3$*



How can I check, that it is variety?



I think, that my solutions are incorect, or noncomplete. For now I have:



1)$u=-x-y-z$, then $F[x,y,z,u]/I=F[x,y,z]/(x^2+y^2+z^2)$, polynomial $x^2+y^2+z^2$ is irreducible, so $Z(I)$ must be variety.



2)$x=-y-z$, then $F[x,y,z]/I=F[y,z]/(2(y^2+yz+z^2))$










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I have a problem with this excercise:



*Take a field $F$, algebraic closed, $charFneq 2$.



1)Consider the following ideal $I=(xy+yz+zx-frac{1}{2}u^2 , x+y+z+u)$ in $F[x,y,z,u]$.
Is $Z(I)$ affine variety in $A^4$?



2)Consider the following ideal $I=(x^2+y^2+z^2,x+y+z)$ in $F[x,y,z]$. Is $Z(I)$ affine variety in $A^3$*



How can I check, that it is variety?



I think, that my solutions are incorect, or noncomplete. For now I have:



1)$u=-x-y-z$, then $F[x,y,z,u]/I=F[x,y,z]/(x^2+y^2+z^2)$, polynomial $x^2+y^2+z^2$ is irreducible, so $Z(I)$ must be variety.



2)$x=-y-z$, then $F[x,y,z]/I=F[y,z]/(2(y^2+yz+z^2))$







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    $begingroup$
    What is your definition of a variety? This varies lots in the literature, so including it will help provide a better answer to your question.
    $endgroup$
    – KReiser
    Feb 8 at 23:23










  • $begingroup$
    I use the following definition: affine variety is an irreducible, closed subset of $A^n$
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    – enigma
    Feb 10 at 0:39
















  • 2




    $begingroup$
    What is your definition of a variety? This varies lots in the literature, so including it will help provide a better answer to your question.
    $endgroup$
    – KReiser
    Feb 8 at 23:23










  • $begingroup$
    I use the following definition: affine variety is an irreducible, closed subset of $A^n$
    $endgroup$
    – enigma
    Feb 10 at 0:39










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What is your definition of a variety? This varies lots in the literature, so including it will help provide a better answer to your question.
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– KReiser
Feb 8 at 23:23




$begingroup$
What is your definition of a variety? This varies lots in the literature, so including it will help provide a better answer to your question.
$endgroup$
– KReiser
Feb 8 at 23:23












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I use the following definition: affine variety is an irreducible, closed subset of $A^n$
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– enigma
Feb 10 at 0:39






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(2)The answer is no in characteristics other than 3,for which we have to show I is radical,but not prime.For this it's enough to show K[x,y,z]/I has no nilpotent ,but is not an Integral Domain.
We observe the ring homomorphism K[x,y,z] →K[x,y] induced by x → x,y → y,z → -x-y has kernel (x,y,z) and thus it induces an isomorphism.
K[x,y,z]/I=K[x,y]/(x^2+y^2+(-x-y)^2) ,Since, z=-x-y
=K[x,y]/(x^2+xy+y^2)
If Characteristic is not 3,the x^2+xy+y^2 is a product of two distinct linear factors,which shows the quotient is reduced but not Integral,thus Z(I) is not variety.



If characteristic is 3,then (x^2+xy+y^2) is equal to (x-y)^2,so the radical of Ideal it generates is generated by x-y .The quotient by this radical is isomorphic to K[x] ,so is an Integral Domain,hence I(Z(I)) is prime and Z(I) is a variety.






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    (1) We have,
    $$K[x,y,z,u]/I=K[x,y,z]/(xy+yz+zx-(1/2)*(x+y+z)^2)$$



    Since $$u=-x-y-z
    =K[x,y,z]/(x^2+y^2+z^2)$$



    and as we have established $x^2+y^2+z^2$ is obviously irreducible in Field theory,so the ideal it generates is prime,showing the quotient is Integral Domain and so $Z(I)$ is a affine variety.






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    (2)The answer is no in characteristics other than 3,for which we have to show I is radical,but not prime.For this it's enough to show K[x,y,z]/I has no nilpotent ,but is not an Integral Domain.
    We observe the ring homomorphism K[x,y,z] →K[x,y] induced by x → x,y → y,z → -x-y has kernel (x,y,z) and thus it induces an isomorphism.
    K[x,y,z]/I=K[x,y]/(x^2+y^2+(-x-y)^2) ,Since, z=-x-y
    =K[x,y]/(x^2+xy+y^2)
    If Characteristic is not 3,the x^2+xy+y^2 is a product of two distinct linear factors,which shows the quotient is reduced but not Integral,thus Z(I) is not variety.



    If characteristic is 3,then (x^2+xy+y^2) is equal to (x-y)^2,so the radical of Ideal it generates is generated by x-y .The quotient by this radical is isomorphic to K[x] ,so is an Integral Domain,hence I(Z(I)) is prime and Z(I) is a variety.






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      (2)The answer is no in characteristics other than 3,for which we have to show I is radical,but not prime.For this it's enough to show K[x,y,z]/I has no nilpotent ,but is not an Integral Domain.
      We observe the ring homomorphism K[x,y,z] →K[x,y] induced by x → x,y → y,z → -x-y has kernel (x,y,z) and thus it induces an isomorphism.
      K[x,y,z]/I=K[x,y]/(x^2+y^2+(-x-y)^2) ,Since, z=-x-y
      =K[x,y]/(x^2+xy+y^2)
      If Characteristic is not 3,the x^2+xy+y^2 is a product of two distinct linear factors,which shows the quotient is reduced but not Integral,thus Z(I) is not variety.



      If characteristic is 3,then (x^2+xy+y^2) is equal to (x-y)^2,so the radical of Ideal it generates is generated by x-y .The quotient by this radical is isomorphic to K[x] ,so is an Integral Domain,hence I(Z(I)) is prime and Z(I) is a variety.






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        (2)The answer is no in characteristics other than 3,for which we have to show I is radical,but not prime.For this it's enough to show K[x,y,z]/I has no nilpotent ,but is not an Integral Domain.
        We observe the ring homomorphism K[x,y,z] →K[x,y] induced by x → x,y → y,z → -x-y has kernel (x,y,z) and thus it induces an isomorphism.
        K[x,y,z]/I=K[x,y]/(x^2+y^2+(-x-y)^2) ,Since, z=-x-y
        =K[x,y]/(x^2+xy+y^2)
        If Characteristic is not 3,the x^2+xy+y^2 is a product of two distinct linear factors,which shows the quotient is reduced but not Integral,thus Z(I) is not variety.



        If characteristic is 3,then (x^2+xy+y^2) is equal to (x-y)^2,so the radical of Ideal it generates is generated by x-y .The quotient by this radical is isomorphic to K[x] ,so is an Integral Domain,hence I(Z(I)) is prime and Z(I) is a variety.






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        (2)The answer is no in characteristics other than 3,for which we have to show I is radical,but not prime.For this it's enough to show K[x,y,z]/I has no nilpotent ,but is not an Integral Domain.
        We observe the ring homomorphism K[x,y,z] →K[x,y] induced by x → x,y → y,z → -x-y has kernel (x,y,z) and thus it induces an isomorphism.
        K[x,y,z]/I=K[x,y]/(x^2+y^2+(-x-y)^2) ,Since, z=-x-y
        =K[x,y]/(x^2+xy+y^2)
        If Characteristic is not 3,the x^2+xy+y^2 is a product of two distinct linear factors,which shows the quotient is reduced but not Integral,thus Z(I) is not variety.



        If characteristic is 3,then (x^2+xy+y^2) is equal to (x-y)^2,so the radical of Ideal it generates is generated by x-y .The quotient by this radical is isomorphic to K[x] ,so is an Integral Domain,hence I(Z(I)) is prime and Z(I) is a variety.







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            (1) We have,
            $$K[x,y,z,u]/I=K[x,y,z]/(xy+yz+zx-(1/2)*(x+y+z)^2)$$



            Since $$u=-x-y-z
            =K[x,y,z]/(x^2+y^2+z^2)$$



            and as we have established $x^2+y^2+z^2$ is obviously irreducible in Field theory,so the ideal it generates is prime,showing the quotient is Integral Domain and so $Z(I)$ is a affine variety.






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              Welcome to MSE. For some basic information about writing mathematics at this site see, e.g., basic help on mathjax notation, mathjax tutorial and quick reference, main meta site math tutorial and equation editing how-to.
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            $begingroup$

            (1) We have,
            $$K[x,y,z,u]/I=K[x,y,z]/(xy+yz+zx-(1/2)*(x+y+z)^2)$$



            Since $$u=-x-y-z
            =K[x,y,z]/(x^2+y^2+z^2)$$



            and as we have established $x^2+y^2+z^2$ is obviously irreducible in Field theory,so the ideal it generates is prime,showing the quotient is Integral Domain and so $Z(I)$ is a affine variety.






            share|cite|improve this answer











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            • $begingroup$
              Welcome to MSE. For some basic information about writing mathematics at this site see, e.g., basic help on mathjax notation, mathjax tutorial and quick reference, main meta site math tutorial and equation editing how-to.
              $endgroup$
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              Mar 14 at 0:02














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            $begingroup$

            (1) We have,
            $$K[x,y,z,u]/I=K[x,y,z]/(xy+yz+zx-(1/2)*(x+y+z)^2)$$



            Since $$u=-x-y-z
            =K[x,y,z]/(x^2+y^2+z^2)$$



            and as we have established $x^2+y^2+z^2$ is obviously irreducible in Field theory,so the ideal it generates is prime,showing the quotient is Integral Domain and so $Z(I)$ is a affine variety.






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            (1) We have,
            $$K[x,y,z,u]/I=K[x,y,z]/(xy+yz+zx-(1/2)*(x+y+z)^2)$$



            Since $$u=-x-y-z
            =K[x,y,z]/(x^2+y^2+z^2)$$



            and as we have established $x^2+y^2+z^2$ is obviously irreducible in Field theory,so the ideal it generates is prime,showing the quotient is Integral Domain and so $Z(I)$ is a affine variety.







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              Welcome to MSE. For some basic information about writing mathematics at this site see, e.g., basic help on mathjax notation, mathjax tutorial and quick reference, main meta site math tutorial and equation editing how-to.
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            Welcome to MSE. For some basic information about writing mathematics at this site see, e.g., basic help on mathjax notation, mathjax tutorial and quick reference, main meta site math tutorial and equation editing how-to.
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