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Was there a shared-world project before “Thieves World”?


Who was the first author to rework another scifi/fantasy author's character?Which world-renowned fictional hero was the first to wear a skintight costume and a mask with no visible pupils?What was the first SciFi book or story co-written by 2 authors before 1957?Who was the first publicly recognized Super Hero before the advent of comic books?Who was the first protagonist to routinely save the world?Was there any SciFi/Horror movie that had better income/budget ratio than Blair Witch Project?What was the first science fiction story that showed a successful alien conquest of the Earth?Was Captain America Comics (1941) really trying to boost the morale of American people during World War II?Weapons that glow when the enemy is near. Are there precedents before Tolkien?What was the earliest story about an AI takeover before the book “Colossus”?What was the first fantasy world/universe without real-world ties?






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Thieves World (ISFDb) by Robert Asprin is the first formal shared-world project I can remember; its success seemed to create a bunch of similar projects through the 1980s. I'm thinking of Heroes in Hell (ISFDb) by Janet Morris, The Man-Kzin Wars, Bolos, Merovingen Nights and probably others I'm just forgetting.



But was there an earlier instance of a shared-world where more than 2 authors wrote independent stories, with their own viewpoint characters, that shared a common universe and acknowledged the characters and events written by other authors?



I'm not considering series like Doctor Who where multiple authors serially wrote stories about the same set of characters, or comic books. (Specifically, I'm interested in "open universe" shared worlds as defined by the Encyclopedia of Science Fiction article.)










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  • Would the continuation of the Oz books after Baum died count?

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  • @eshier I'm aware of them, but not how they are structured or how they relate to one another. Do stories have individual focus, but acknowledge other stories to build on them and create a broader sense of history?

    – DavidW
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  • In short, the answer to that is yes, but thinking about it more, I'd disqualify them if I were you. There's no back and forth between authors since Baum was dead. More like comics where the publisher owned the setting and the authors are just telling their own story in it. Cthulhu Mythos seems more like what you want. Even then, it was more "easter egg" references to other authors. Thieves' World may be the first purposeful attempt at something like that.

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    8 hours ago






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    What makes Thieves World unique (at least at the time) is that it was created especially to be a shared world. Others, such as the Cthulhu Mythos, or the Man-Kzin Wars, are worlds created by one author for their own purposes, to which they then allowed others to contribute.

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Thieves World (ISFDb) by Robert Asprin is the first formal shared-world project I can remember; its success seemed to create a bunch of similar projects through the 1980s. I'm thinking of Heroes in Hell (ISFDb) by Janet Morris, The Man-Kzin Wars, Bolos, Merovingen Nights and probably others I'm just forgetting.



But was there an earlier instance of a shared-world where more than 2 authors wrote independent stories, with their own viewpoint characters, that shared a common universe and acknowledged the characters and events written by other authors?



I'm not considering series like Doctor Who where multiple authors serially wrote stories about the same set of characters, or comic books. (Specifically, I'm interested in "open universe" shared worlds as defined by the Encyclopedia of Science Fiction article.)










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  • Would the continuation of the Oz books after Baum died count?

    – eshier
    8 hours ago











  • @eshier I'm aware of them, but not how they are structured or how they relate to one another. Do stories have individual focus, but acknowledge other stories to build on them and create a broader sense of history?

    – DavidW
    8 hours ago











  • In short, the answer to that is yes, but thinking about it more, I'd disqualify them if I were you. There's no back and forth between authors since Baum was dead. More like comics where the publisher owned the setting and the authors are just telling their own story in it. Cthulhu Mythos seems more like what you want. Even then, it was more "easter egg" references to other authors. Thieves' World may be the first purposeful attempt at something like that.

    – eshier
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    What makes Thieves World unique (at least at the time) is that it was created especially to be a shared world. Others, such as the Cthulhu Mythos, or the Man-Kzin Wars, are worlds created by one author for their own purposes, to which they then allowed others to contribute.

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Thieves World (ISFDb) by Robert Asprin is the first formal shared-world project I can remember; its success seemed to create a bunch of similar projects through the 1980s. I'm thinking of Heroes in Hell (ISFDb) by Janet Morris, The Man-Kzin Wars, Bolos, Merovingen Nights and probably others I'm just forgetting.



But was there an earlier instance of a shared-world where more than 2 authors wrote independent stories, with their own viewpoint characters, that shared a common universe and acknowledged the characters and events written by other authors?



I'm not considering series like Doctor Who where multiple authors serially wrote stories about the same set of characters, or comic books. (Specifically, I'm interested in "open universe" shared worlds as defined by the Encyclopedia of Science Fiction article.)










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Thieves World (ISFDb) by Robert Asprin is the first formal shared-world project I can remember; its success seemed to create a bunch of similar projects through the 1980s. I'm thinking of Heroes in Hell (ISFDb) by Janet Morris, The Man-Kzin Wars, Bolos, Merovingen Nights and probably others I'm just forgetting.



But was there an earlier instance of a shared-world where more than 2 authors wrote independent stories, with their own viewpoint characters, that shared a common universe and acknowledged the characters and events written by other authors?



I'm not considering series like Doctor Who where multiple authors serially wrote stories about the same set of characters, or comic books. (Specifically, I'm interested in "open universe" shared worlds as defined by the Encyclopedia of Science Fiction article.)







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  • Would the continuation of the Oz books after Baum died count?

    – eshier
    8 hours ago











  • @eshier I'm aware of them, but not how they are structured or how they relate to one another. Do stories have individual focus, but acknowledge other stories to build on them and create a broader sense of history?

    – DavidW
    8 hours ago











  • In short, the answer to that is yes, but thinking about it more, I'd disqualify them if I were you. There's no back and forth between authors since Baum was dead. More like comics where the publisher owned the setting and the authors are just telling their own story in it. Cthulhu Mythos seems more like what you want. Even then, it was more "easter egg" references to other authors. Thieves' World may be the first purposeful attempt at something like that.

    – eshier
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    What makes Thieves World unique (at least at the time) is that it was created especially to be a shared world. Others, such as the Cthulhu Mythos, or the Man-Kzin Wars, are worlds created by one author for their own purposes, to which they then allowed others to contribute.

    – Paul Sinclair
    6 hours ago

















  • Would the continuation of the Oz books after Baum died count?

    – eshier
    8 hours ago











  • @eshier I'm aware of them, but not how they are structured or how they relate to one another. Do stories have individual focus, but acknowledge other stories to build on them and create a broader sense of history?

    – DavidW
    8 hours ago











  • In short, the answer to that is yes, but thinking about it more, I'd disqualify them if I were you. There's no back and forth between authors since Baum was dead. More like comics where the publisher owned the setting and the authors are just telling their own story in it. Cthulhu Mythos seems more like what you want. Even then, it was more "easter egg" references to other authors. Thieves' World may be the first purposeful attempt at something like that.

    – eshier
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    What makes Thieves World unique (at least at the time) is that it was created especially to be a shared world. Others, such as the Cthulhu Mythos, or the Man-Kzin Wars, are worlds created by one author for their own purposes, to which they then allowed others to contribute.

    – Paul Sinclair
    6 hours ago
















Would the continuation of the Oz books after Baum died count?

– eshier
8 hours ago





Would the continuation of the Oz books after Baum died count?

– eshier
8 hours ago













@eshier I'm aware of them, but not how they are structured or how they relate to one another. Do stories have individual focus, but acknowledge other stories to build on them and create a broader sense of history?

– DavidW
8 hours ago





@eshier I'm aware of them, but not how they are structured or how they relate to one another. Do stories have individual focus, but acknowledge other stories to build on them and create a broader sense of history?

– DavidW
8 hours ago













In short, the answer to that is yes, but thinking about it more, I'd disqualify them if I were you. There's no back and forth between authors since Baum was dead. More like comics where the publisher owned the setting and the authors are just telling their own story in it. Cthulhu Mythos seems more like what you want. Even then, it was more "easter egg" references to other authors. Thieves' World may be the first purposeful attempt at something like that.

– eshier
8 hours ago





In short, the answer to that is yes, but thinking about it more, I'd disqualify them if I were you. There's no back and forth between authors since Baum was dead. More like comics where the publisher owned the setting and the authors are just telling their own story in it. Cthulhu Mythos seems more like what you want. Even then, it was more "easter egg" references to other authors. Thieves' World may be the first purposeful attempt at something like that.

– eshier
8 hours ago




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What makes Thieves World unique (at least at the time) is that it was created especially to be a shared world. Others, such as the Cthulhu Mythos, or the Man-Kzin Wars, are worlds created by one author for their own purposes, to which they then allowed others to contribute.

– Paul Sinclair
6 hours ago





What makes Thieves World unique (at least at the time) is that it was created especially to be a shared world. Others, such as the Cthulhu Mythos, or the Man-Kzin Wars, are worlds created by one author for their own purposes, to which they then allowed others to contribute.

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It will all depend on exactly how you wish to define the concept, but in short there were many before 1979.



In 1866, the magazine All the Year Round published a set of short stories at Christmas titled Mugby Junction. This contained related stories, including Charles Dickens' ghost story The Signal-man.



The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction article on Shared Worlds has many others with varying amounts of SFF content until 1952's The Petrified Planet anthology which is completely Science Fiction.






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Arguably, the Cthulhu Mythos fits the mold. While H.P. Lovecraft was the primary author, he also encouraged and endorsed the work of other authors, such as Robert E. Howard and Fritz Leiber, in the same universe.




For example, Robert E. Howard's character Friedrich Von Junzt reads Lovecraft's Necronomicon in the short story "The Children of the Night" (1931), and in turn Lovecraft mentions Howard's Unaussprechlichen Kulten in the stories "Out of the Aeons" (1935) and "The Shadow Out of Time" (1936). Many of Howard's original unedited Conan stories also involve parts of the Cthulhu Mythos.







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    Argh! Fuzzyboots mentioned the Cthulhu Mythos before me.



    I remember a shared world project that might possibly have a similar date as Thieves World. I remember reading a story in a magazine set on the same planet as a story by another author and wondering what was up. It turned out that it was a shared universe. I later read a collection of stories set on that world and noted that the writers did not agree on how many limbs the "fuxes", the people of that world, had.



    I now believe the anthology was Medea: Harlan's World (1985), edited by Harlan Ellison. Several of the stories were published as early as 1978. And articles describing Medea were published as early as 1975.



    In Tarzan Alive (1972) Philip Jose Farmer (1918-2009) created the "Wold Newton Family" by claiming that many fictional characters created by other writers had mutant powers because of being descended from a group of related and intermarried travelers who were exposed to radiation from the famous Wold Cottage Meteorite on December 13, 1795. The "Wold Newton Family" has since been expanded into the "Wold Newton Universe" by Farmer, Win Scott Eckert, and others.



    Eckert also created a Crossover Universe in Crossovers: A Secret chronology of the World (2010).



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wold_Newton_family#The_Wold_Newton_Universe1



    Fletcher Pratt (1897-1956) made his novel The Well of the Unicorn (1948) a sequel several generations later to Lord Dunsany's play "King Argimenes and the Unknown warrior" (1914).



    Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914?) wrote "An Inhabitant of Carcosa" in 1886. Robert W. Chambers (1865-1933) mentioned Carcosa in several of the short stories collected The King in Yellow (1895). The King in Yellow was a character in a fictional play called The King in Yellow set in Carcosa, which may be on another planet. Carcosa became part of the Cthulhu Mythos.



    And no doubt there are older examples.



    Arrgh! Again! eshier beat me to mention the shared world anthology The Petrified Planet (1952) edited by Fletcher Pratt (see above).



    And also see my answer and other answers to this question: Who was the first author to rework another scifi/fantasy author's character? 2



    It is possible that the sequels to Amadis de Gaula, medieval Arthurian romances, medieval saint's lives, or ancient Greek epic poems could be considered the first shared fictional universes.






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    It's probably as old as civilization. Mythologies, such as Greek mythology, were the result of probably hundreds if not thousands of authors in a shared universe, and there are works of literature such as the Iliad that make reference to characters in those mythologies. The general consensus is that the Synoptic Gospels and the Gospel of John come from separate sources.






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    • This was my thought too. The one reason I don't think it would count is that the article OP mentions (which they said is the definiton they cared about) mentions a "bible" (pun very unintended) that serves as a centralized source of the rules for the stories. I would think most ancient stories were much much more decentralized. As an example with Greek mythology, there was a guy (I cannot remember their name unfortunately) who sort of "standardized" the stories after the fact as opposed to the other way around.

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    • Found it!. "[...] the only general mythographical handbook to survive from Greek antiquity was the Library of Pseudo-Apollodorus. This work attempts to reconcile the contradictory tales of the poets and provides a grand summary of traditional Greek mythology and heroic legends."

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    It will all depend on exactly how you wish to define the concept, but in short there were many before 1979.



    In 1866, the magazine All the Year Round published a set of short stories at Christmas titled Mugby Junction. This contained related stories, including Charles Dickens' ghost story The Signal-man.



    The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction article on Shared Worlds has many others with varying amounts of SFF content until 1952's The Petrified Planet anthology which is completely Science Fiction.






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    It will all depend on exactly how you wish to define the concept, but in short there were many before 1979.



    In 1866, the magazine All the Year Round published a set of short stories at Christmas titled Mugby Junction. This contained related stories, including Charles Dickens' ghost story The Signal-man.



    The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction article on Shared Worlds has many others with varying amounts of SFF content until 1952's The Petrified Planet anthology which is completely Science Fiction.






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    • TIL "adumbrations" :) Thanks for finding that article; very helpful!

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    • I'm accepting this one, since it seems like the closest match to what I'm asking.

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    It will all depend on exactly how you wish to define the concept, but in short there were many before 1979.



    In 1866, the magazine All the Year Round published a set of short stories at Christmas titled Mugby Junction. This contained related stories, including Charles Dickens' ghost story The Signal-man.



    The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction article on Shared Worlds has many others with varying amounts of SFF content until 1952's The Petrified Planet anthology which is completely Science Fiction.






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    It will all depend on exactly how you wish to define the concept, but in short there were many before 1979.



    In 1866, the magazine All the Year Round published a set of short stories at Christmas titled Mugby Junction. This contained related stories, including Charles Dickens' ghost story The Signal-man.



    The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction article on Shared Worlds has many others with varying amounts of SFF content until 1952's The Petrified Planet anthology which is completely Science Fiction.







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    • TIL "adumbrations" :) Thanks for finding that article; very helpful!

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    TIL "adumbrations" :) Thanks for finding that article; very helpful!

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    TIL "adumbrations" :) Thanks for finding that article; very helpful!

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    I'm accepting this one, since it seems like the closest match to what I'm asking.

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    I'm accepting this one, since it seems like the closest match to what I'm asking.

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    Arguably, the Cthulhu Mythos fits the mold. While H.P. Lovecraft was the primary author, he also encouraged and endorsed the work of other authors, such as Robert E. Howard and Fritz Leiber, in the same universe.




    For example, Robert E. Howard's character Friedrich Von Junzt reads Lovecraft's Necronomicon in the short story "The Children of the Night" (1931), and in turn Lovecraft mentions Howard's Unaussprechlichen Kulten in the stories "Out of the Aeons" (1935) and "The Shadow Out of Time" (1936). Many of Howard's original unedited Conan stories also involve parts of the Cthulhu Mythos.







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      Arguably, the Cthulhu Mythos fits the mold. While H.P. Lovecraft was the primary author, he also encouraged and endorsed the work of other authors, such as Robert E. Howard and Fritz Leiber, in the same universe.




      For example, Robert E. Howard's character Friedrich Von Junzt reads Lovecraft's Necronomicon in the short story "The Children of the Night" (1931), and in turn Lovecraft mentions Howard's Unaussprechlichen Kulten in the stories "Out of the Aeons" (1935) and "The Shadow Out of Time" (1936). Many of Howard's original unedited Conan stories also involve parts of the Cthulhu Mythos.







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        Arguably, the Cthulhu Mythos fits the mold. While H.P. Lovecraft was the primary author, he also encouraged and endorsed the work of other authors, such as Robert E. Howard and Fritz Leiber, in the same universe.




        For example, Robert E. Howard's character Friedrich Von Junzt reads Lovecraft's Necronomicon in the short story "The Children of the Night" (1931), and in turn Lovecraft mentions Howard's Unaussprechlichen Kulten in the stories "Out of the Aeons" (1935) and "The Shadow Out of Time" (1936). Many of Howard's original unedited Conan stories also involve parts of the Cthulhu Mythos.







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        Arguably, the Cthulhu Mythos fits the mold. While H.P. Lovecraft was the primary author, he also encouraged and endorsed the work of other authors, such as Robert E. Howard and Fritz Leiber, in the same universe.




        For example, Robert E. Howard's character Friedrich Von Junzt reads Lovecraft's Necronomicon in the short story "The Children of the Night" (1931), and in turn Lovecraft mentions Howard's Unaussprechlichen Kulten in the stories "Out of the Aeons" (1935) and "The Shadow Out of Time" (1936). Many of Howard's original unedited Conan stories also involve parts of the Cthulhu Mythos.








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            Argh! Fuzzyboots mentioned the Cthulhu Mythos before me.



            I remember a shared world project that might possibly have a similar date as Thieves World. I remember reading a story in a magazine set on the same planet as a story by another author and wondering what was up. It turned out that it was a shared universe. I later read a collection of stories set on that world and noted that the writers did not agree on how many limbs the "fuxes", the people of that world, had.



            I now believe the anthology was Medea: Harlan's World (1985), edited by Harlan Ellison. Several of the stories were published as early as 1978. And articles describing Medea were published as early as 1975.



            In Tarzan Alive (1972) Philip Jose Farmer (1918-2009) created the "Wold Newton Family" by claiming that many fictional characters created by other writers had mutant powers because of being descended from a group of related and intermarried travelers who were exposed to radiation from the famous Wold Cottage Meteorite on December 13, 1795. The "Wold Newton Family" has since been expanded into the "Wold Newton Universe" by Farmer, Win Scott Eckert, and others.



            Eckert also created a Crossover Universe in Crossovers: A Secret chronology of the World (2010).



            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wold_Newton_family#The_Wold_Newton_Universe1



            Fletcher Pratt (1897-1956) made his novel The Well of the Unicorn (1948) a sequel several generations later to Lord Dunsany's play "King Argimenes and the Unknown warrior" (1914).



            Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914?) wrote "An Inhabitant of Carcosa" in 1886. Robert W. Chambers (1865-1933) mentioned Carcosa in several of the short stories collected The King in Yellow (1895). The King in Yellow was a character in a fictional play called The King in Yellow set in Carcosa, which may be on another planet. Carcosa became part of the Cthulhu Mythos.



            And no doubt there are older examples.



            Arrgh! Again! eshier beat me to mention the shared world anthology The Petrified Planet (1952) edited by Fletcher Pratt (see above).



            And also see my answer and other answers to this question: Who was the first author to rework another scifi/fantasy author's character? 2



            It is possible that the sequels to Amadis de Gaula, medieval Arthurian romances, medieval saint's lives, or ancient Greek epic poems could be considered the first shared fictional universes.






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            • I love the breadth of research here! My biases are showing, but I was looking for an answer in the SF genre. :) So far The Petrified Planet seems like the best answer.

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            Argh! Fuzzyboots mentioned the Cthulhu Mythos before me.



            I remember a shared world project that might possibly have a similar date as Thieves World. I remember reading a story in a magazine set on the same planet as a story by another author and wondering what was up. It turned out that it was a shared universe. I later read a collection of stories set on that world and noted that the writers did not agree on how many limbs the "fuxes", the people of that world, had.



            I now believe the anthology was Medea: Harlan's World (1985), edited by Harlan Ellison. Several of the stories were published as early as 1978. And articles describing Medea were published as early as 1975.



            In Tarzan Alive (1972) Philip Jose Farmer (1918-2009) created the "Wold Newton Family" by claiming that many fictional characters created by other writers had mutant powers because of being descended from a group of related and intermarried travelers who were exposed to radiation from the famous Wold Cottage Meteorite on December 13, 1795. The "Wold Newton Family" has since been expanded into the "Wold Newton Universe" by Farmer, Win Scott Eckert, and others.



            Eckert also created a Crossover Universe in Crossovers: A Secret chronology of the World (2010).



            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wold_Newton_family#The_Wold_Newton_Universe1



            Fletcher Pratt (1897-1956) made his novel The Well of the Unicorn (1948) a sequel several generations later to Lord Dunsany's play "King Argimenes and the Unknown warrior" (1914).



            Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914?) wrote "An Inhabitant of Carcosa" in 1886. Robert W. Chambers (1865-1933) mentioned Carcosa in several of the short stories collected The King in Yellow (1895). The King in Yellow was a character in a fictional play called The King in Yellow set in Carcosa, which may be on another planet. Carcosa became part of the Cthulhu Mythos.



            And no doubt there are older examples.



            Arrgh! Again! eshier beat me to mention the shared world anthology The Petrified Planet (1952) edited by Fletcher Pratt (see above).



            And also see my answer and other answers to this question: Who was the first author to rework another scifi/fantasy author's character? 2



            It is possible that the sequels to Amadis de Gaula, medieval Arthurian romances, medieval saint's lives, or ancient Greek epic poems could be considered the first shared fictional universes.






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            • I love the breadth of research here! My biases are showing, but I was looking for an answer in the SF genre. :) So far The Petrified Planet seems like the best answer.

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            Argh! Fuzzyboots mentioned the Cthulhu Mythos before me.



            I remember a shared world project that might possibly have a similar date as Thieves World. I remember reading a story in a magazine set on the same planet as a story by another author and wondering what was up. It turned out that it was a shared universe. I later read a collection of stories set on that world and noted that the writers did not agree on how many limbs the "fuxes", the people of that world, had.



            I now believe the anthology was Medea: Harlan's World (1985), edited by Harlan Ellison. Several of the stories were published as early as 1978. And articles describing Medea were published as early as 1975.



            In Tarzan Alive (1972) Philip Jose Farmer (1918-2009) created the "Wold Newton Family" by claiming that many fictional characters created by other writers had mutant powers because of being descended from a group of related and intermarried travelers who were exposed to radiation from the famous Wold Cottage Meteorite on December 13, 1795. The "Wold Newton Family" has since been expanded into the "Wold Newton Universe" by Farmer, Win Scott Eckert, and others.



            Eckert also created a Crossover Universe in Crossovers: A Secret chronology of the World (2010).



            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wold_Newton_family#The_Wold_Newton_Universe1



            Fletcher Pratt (1897-1956) made his novel The Well of the Unicorn (1948) a sequel several generations later to Lord Dunsany's play "King Argimenes and the Unknown warrior" (1914).



            Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914?) wrote "An Inhabitant of Carcosa" in 1886. Robert W. Chambers (1865-1933) mentioned Carcosa in several of the short stories collected The King in Yellow (1895). The King in Yellow was a character in a fictional play called The King in Yellow set in Carcosa, which may be on another planet. Carcosa became part of the Cthulhu Mythos.



            And no doubt there are older examples.



            Arrgh! Again! eshier beat me to mention the shared world anthology The Petrified Planet (1952) edited by Fletcher Pratt (see above).



            And also see my answer and other answers to this question: Who was the first author to rework another scifi/fantasy author's character? 2



            It is possible that the sequels to Amadis de Gaula, medieval Arthurian romances, medieval saint's lives, or ancient Greek epic poems could be considered the first shared fictional universes.






            share|improve this answer















            Argh! Fuzzyboots mentioned the Cthulhu Mythos before me.



            I remember a shared world project that might possibly have a similar date as Thieves World. I remember reading a story in a magazine set on the same planet as a story by another author and wondering what was up. It turned out that it was a shared universe. I later read a collection of stories set on that world and noted that the writers did not agree on how many limbs the "fuxes", the people of that world, had.



            I now believe the anthology was Medea: Harlan's World (1985), edited by Harlan Ellison. Several of the stories were published as early as 1978. And articles describing Medea were published as early as 1975.



            In Tarzan Alive (1972) Philip Jose Farmer (1918-2009) created the "Wold Newton Family" by claiming that many fictional characters created by other writers had mutant powers because of being descended from a group of related and intermarried travelers who were exposed to radiation from the famous Wold Cottage Meteorite on December 13, 1795. The "Wold Newton Family" has since been expanded into the "Wold Newton Universe" by Farmer, Win Scott Eckert, and others.



            Eckert also created a Crossover Universe in Crossovers: A Secret chronology of the World (2010).



            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wold_Newton_family#The_Wold_Newton_Universe1



            Fletcher Pratt (1897-1956) made his novel The Well of the Unicorn (1948) a sequel several generations later to Lord Dunsany's play "King Argimenes and the Unknown warrior" (1914).



            Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914?) wrote "An Inhabitant of Carcosa" in 1886. Robert W. Chambers (1865-1933) mentioned Carcosa in several of the short stories collected The King in Yellow (1895). The King in Yellow was a character in a fictional play called The King in Yellow set in Carcosa, which may be on another planet. Carcosa became part of the Cthulhu Mythos.



            And no doubt there are older examples.



            Arrgh! Again! eshier beat me to mention the shared world anthology The Petrified Planet (1952) edited by Fletcher Pratt (see above).



            And also see my answer and other answers to this question: Who was the first author to rework another scifi/fantasy author's character? 2



            It is possible that the sequels to Amadis de Gaula, medieval Arthurian romances, medieval saint's lives, or ancient Greek epic poems could be considered the first shared fictional universes.







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            • I love the breadth of research here! My biases are showing, but I was looking for an answer in the SF genre. :) So far The Petrified Planet seems like the best answer.

              – DavidW
              6 hours ago

















            • I love the breadth of research here! My biases are showing, but I was looking for an answer in the SF genre. :) So far The Petrified Planet seems like the best answer.

              – DavidW
              6 hours ago
















            I love the breadth of research here! My biases are showing, but I was looking for an answer in the SF genre. :) So far The Petrified Planet seems like the best answer.

            – DavidW
            6 hours ago





            I love the breadth of research here! My biases are showing, but I was looking for an answer in the SF genre. :) So far The Petrified Planet seems like the best answer.

            – DavidW
            6 hours ago











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            It's probably as old as civilization. Mythologies, such as Greek mythology, were the result of probably hundreds if not thousands of authors in a shared universe, and there are works of literature such as the Iliad that make reference to characters in those mythologies. The general consensus is that the Synoptic Gospels and the Gospel of John come from separate sources.






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            • This was my thought too. The one reason I don't think it would count is that the article OP mentions (which they said is the definiton they cared about) mentions a "bible" (pun very unintended) that serves as a centralized source of the rules for the stories. I would think most ancient stories were much much more decentralized. As an example with Greek mythology, there was a guy (I cannot remember their name unfortunately) who sort of "standardized" the stories after the fact as opposed to the other way around.

              – Captain Man
              6 hours ago











            • Found it!. "[...] the only general mythographical handbook to survive from Greek antiquity was the Library of Pseudo-Apollodorus. This work attempts to reconcile the contradictory tales of the poets and provides a grand summary of traditional Greek mythology and heroic legends."

              – Captain Man
              6 hours ago















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            It's probably as old as civilization. Mythologies, such as Greek mythology, were the result of probably hundreds if not thousands of authors in a shared universe, and there are works of literature such as the Iliad that make reference to characters in those mythologies. The general consensus is that the Synoptic Gospels and the Gospel of John come from separate sources.






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            • This was my thought too. The one reason I don't think it would count is that the article OP mentions (which they said is the definiton they cared about) mentions a "bible" (pun very unintended) that serves as a centralized source of the rules for the stories. I would think most ancient stories were much much more decentralized. As an example with Greek mythology, there was a guy (I cannot remember their name unfortunately) who sort of "standardized" the stories after the fact as opposed to the other way around.

              – Captain Man
              6 hours ago











            • Found it!. "[...] the only general mythographical handbook to survive from Greek antiquity was the Library of Pseudo-Apollodorus. This work attempts to reconcile the contradictory tales of the poets and provides a grand summary of traditional Greek mythology and heroic legends."

              – Captain Man
              6 hours ago













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            It's probably as old as civilization. Mythologies, such as Greek mythology, were the result of probably hundreds if not thousands of authors in a shared universe, and there are works of literature such as the Iliad that make reference to characters in those mythologies. The general consensus is that the Synoptic Gospels and the Gospel of John come from separate sources.






            share|improve this answer













            It's probably as old as civilization. Mythologies, such as Greek mythology, were the result of probably hundreds if not thousands of authors in a shared universe, and there are works of literature such as the Iliad that make reference to characters in those mythologies. The general consensus is that the Synoptic Gospels and the Gospel of John come from separate sources.







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            • This was my thought too. The one reason I don't think it would count is that the article OP mentions (which they said is the definiton they cared about) mentions a "bible" (pun very unintended) that serves as a centralized source of the rules for the stories. I would think most ancient stories were much much more decentralized. As an example with Greek mythology, there was a guy (I cannot remember their name unfortunately) who sort of "standardized" the stories after the fact as opposed to the other way around.

              – Captain Man
              6 hours ago











            • Found it!. "[...] the only general mythographical handbook to survive from Greek antiquity was the Library of Pseudo-Apollodorus. This work attempts to reconcile the contradictory tales of the poets and provides a grand summary of traditional Greek mythology and heroic legends."

              – Captain Man
              6 hours ago

















            • This was my thought too. The one reason I don't think it would count is that the article OP mentions (which they said is the definiton they cared about) mentions a "bible" (pun very unintended) that serves as a centralized source of the rules for the stories. I would think most ancient stories were much much more decentralized. As an example with Greek mythology, there was a guy (I cannot remember their name unfortunately) who sort of "standardized" the stories after the fact as opposed to the other way around.

              – Captain Man
              6 hours ago











            • Found it!. "[...] the only general mythographical handbook to survive from Greek antiquity was the Library of Pseudo-Apollodorus. This work attempts to reconcile the contradictory tales of the poets and provides a grand summary of traditional Greek mythology and heroic legends."

              – Captain Man
              6 hours ago
















            This was my thought too. The one reason I don't think it would count is that the article OP mentions (which they said is the definiton they cared about) mentions a "bible" (pun very unintended) that serves as a centralized source of the rules for the stories. I would think most ancient stories were much much more decentralized. As an example with Greek mythology, there was a guy (I cannot remember their name unfortunately) who sort of "standardized" the stories after the fact as opposed to the other way around.

            – Captain Man
            6 hours ago





            This was my thought too. The one reason I don't think it would count is that the article OP mentions (which they said is the definiton they cared about) mentions a "bible" (pun very unintended) that serves as a centralized source of the rules for the stories. I would think most ancient stories were much much more decentralized. As an example with Greek mythology, there was a guy (I cannot remember their name unfortunately) who sort of "standardized" the stories after the fact as opposed to the other way around.

            – Captain Man
            6 hours ago













            Found it!. "[...] the only general mythographical handbook to survive from Greek antiquity was the Library of Pseudo-Apollodorus. This work attempts to reconcile the contradictory tales of the poets and provides a grand summary of traditional Greek mythology and heroic legends."

            – Captain Man
            6 hours ago





            Found it!. "[...] the only general mythographical handbook to survive from Greek antiquity was the Library of Pseudo-Apollodorus. This work attempts to reconcile the contradictory tales of the poets and provides a grand summary of traditional Greek mythology and heroic legends."

            – Captain Man
            6 hours ago

















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