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Find $limlimits_{xto 0}left (frac{1^x+2^x+3^x+dots+n^x}{n} right)^{frac1x}$



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Consider the following expression.



$$limlimits_{xto 0} left (frac{1^x+2^x+3^x+dots+n^x}{n} right )^{frac 1 x}$$



How to solve this?



Let $y= left (frac {1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x} {n} right)^{1/x}$



I tried taking $ln$ on both sides. We get that $$ln(y)=frac{1}{x}ln left (frac {1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x} {n} right ).$$



Taking $lim$ on both sides we get $$ln(y)=lim_{xto 0}frac{1}{x}ln left (frac {1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x} {n} right ).$$



Now applying the LH rule, we get $$ln(y)=lim_{xto 0}frac{n}{1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x}({1^xln(1)+cdots +n^xln(n)})$$



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Consider the following expression.



$$limlimits_{xto 0} left (frac{1^x+2^x+3^x+dots+n^x}{n} right )^{frac 1 x}$$



How to solve this?



Let $y= left (frac {1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x} {n} right)^{1/x}$



I tried taking $ln$ on both sides. We get that $$ln(y)=frac{1}{x}ln left (frac {1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x} {n} right ).$$



Taking $lim$ on both sides we get $$ln(y)=lim_{xto 0}frac{1}{x}ln left (frac {1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x} {n} right ).$$



Now applying the LH rule, we get $$ln(y)=lim_{xto 0}frac{n}{1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x}({1^xln(1)+cdots +n^xln(n)})$$



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Consider the following expression.



$$limlimits_{xto 0} left (frac{1^x+2^x+3^x+dots+n^x}{n} right )^{frac 1 x}$$



How to solve this?



Let $y= left (frac {1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x} {n} right)^{1/x}$



I tried taking $ln$ on both sides. We get that $$ln(y)=frac{1}{x}ln left (frac {1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x} {n} right ).$$



Taking $lim$ on both sides we get $$ln(y)=lim_{xto 0}frac{1}{x}ln left (frac {1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x} {n} right ).$$



Now applying the LH rule, we get $$ln(y)=lim_{xto 0}frac{n}{1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x}({1^xln(1)+cdots +n^xln(n)})$$



Is this a right way to go?










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Consider the following expression.



$$limlimits_{xto 0} left (frac{1^x+2^x+3^x+dots+n^x}{n} right )^{frac 1 x}$$



How to solve this?



Let $y= left (frac {1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x} {n} right)^{1/x}$



I tried taking $ln$ on both sides. We get that $$ln(y)=frac{1}{x}ln left (frac {1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x} {n} right ).$$



Taking $lim$ on both sides we get $$ln(y)=lim_{xto 0}frac{1}{x}ln left (frac {1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x} {n} right ).$$



Now applying the LH rule, we get $$ln(y)=lim_{xto 0}frac{n}{1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x}({1^xln(1)+cdots +n^xln(n)})$$



Is this a right way to go?







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Define $S={k mid kin mathbb{Z}^+ land kle n}$. Define the limit as $L$. Rewrite it as $exp ln L$ and use L'Hopital's rule and you'll be done in no time.



$$begin{aligned}lim_{xto 0}left(dfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^x}{n}right)^{1/x}&=lim_{xto 0} exp dfrac{1}{x}lnleft(dfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^x}{n}right)\&=lim_{xto 0}exp dfrac{n}{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^x}cdotdfrac{mathrm d}{mathrm dx}left[dfrac{displaystyle sum_{kin S} k^x}{n}right]\&=lim_{xto 0}exp dfrac{n}{displaystyle sum_{kin S}k^x}cdotdfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^xln k}{n}\ &=lim_{xto 0}exp dfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^xln k}{displaystyle sum_{kin S}k^x}to exp dfrac{ln n!}{n}=sqrt[n]{n!}end{aligned}$$






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    Actually, $ln(y)=frac{1}{x}ln{frac{(1^x+2^x+...+n^x)}{n}}$. Whenever after putting $x=0$ you get the form $1^{infty}$, you need to take $ln$ and find the limit.



    Here, after putting $x=0$, we have $big(frac{1^0+2^0+cdots +n^0}{n}big)^{1/0}=1^{infty}$. So taking $ln$ in both side and finding limit is correct approach.






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      Your basic approach is fine but there are some problems. The first is where you say "taking $lim$ on both sides". You can't take the limit unless you know the limit exists. But that is part of the exercise, right? I would omit the $lim$ business until the end. Second, why do you still have $ln y$ on the left after "taking the limit"? Finally, you didn't get the correct expression in using LHR. It should be



      $$frac{n}{1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x}cdotfrac{1^xln(1)+cdots +n^xln(n)}{n}.$$






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        I write this answer only because the wrong one is accepted.



        There is an error in your final expression. It should be:



        $$lim_{xto 0}frac{n}{1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x}frac{1^xln(1)+cdots +n^xln(n)}{color{red}n}=frac{ln n!}{n}.$$



        Correspondingly:
        $$
        limlimits_{xto 0} left (frac{1^x+2^x+3^x+dots+n^x}{n} right )^{frac 1 x}=sqrt[n]{n!}.
        $$






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          @zhw. This was pointed out also in my comment, which I wrote even before the accepted answer has appeared. I am sorry that I did not notice your answer before and can confirm that it is correct.
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        Define $S={k mid kin mathbb{Z}^+ land kle n}$. Define the limit as $L$. Rewrite it as $exp ln L$ and use L'Hopital's rule and you'll be done in no time.



        $$begin{aligned}lim_{xto 0}left(dfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^x}{n}right)^{1/x}&=lim_{xto 0} exp dfrac{1}{x}lnleft(dfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^x}{n}right)\&=lim_{xto 0}exp dfrac{n}{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^x}cdotdfrac{mathrm d}{mathrm dx}left[dfrac{displaystyle sum_{kin S} k^x}{n}right]\&=lim_{xto 0}exp dfrac{n}{displaystyle sum_{kin S}k^x}cdotdfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^xln k}{n}\ &=lim_{xto 0}exp dfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^xln k}{displaystyle sum_{kin S}k^x}to exp dfrac{ln n!}{n}=sqrt[n]{n!}end{aligned}$$






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          Define $S={k mid kin mathbb{Z}^+ land kle n}$. Define the limit as $L$. Rewrite it as $exp ln L$ and use L'Hopital's rule and you'll be done in no time.



          $$begin{aligned}lim_{xto 0}left(dfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^x}{n}right)^{1/x}&=lim_{xto 0} exp dfrac{1}{x}lnleft(dfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^x}{n}right)\&=lim_{xto 0}exp dfrac{n}{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^x}cdotdfrac{mathrm d}{mathrm dx}left[dfrac{displaystyle sum_{kin S} k^x}{n}right]\&=lim_{xto 0}exp dfrac{n}{displaystyle sum_{kin S}k^x}cdotdfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^xln k}{n}\ &=lim_{xto 0}exp dfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^xln k}{displaystyle sum_{kin S}k^x}to exp dfrac{ln n!}{n}=sqrt[n]{n!}end{aligned}$$






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            Define $S={k mid kin mathbb{Z}^+ land kle n}$. Define the limit as $L$. Rewrite it as $exp ln L$ and use L'Hopital's rule and you'll be done in no time.



            $$begin{aligned}lim_{xto 0}left(dfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^x}{n}right)^{1/x}&=lim_{xto 0} exp dfrac{1}{x}lnleft(dfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^x}{n}right)\&=lim_{xto 0}exp dfrac{n}{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^x}cdotdfrac{mathrm d}{mathrm dx}left[dfrac{displaystyle sum_{kin S} k^x}{n}right]\&=lim_{xto 0}exp dfrac{n}{displaystyle sum_{kin S}k^x}cdotdfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^xln k}{n}\ &=lim_{xto 0}exp dfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^xln k}{displaystyle sum_{kin S}k^x}to exp dfrac{ln n!}{n}=sqrt[n]{n!}end{aligned}$$






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            Define $S={k mid kin mathbb{Z}^+ land kle n}$. Define the limit as $L$. Rewrite it as $exp ln L$ and use L'Hopital's rule and you'll be done in no time.



            $$begin{aligned}lim_{xto 0}left(dfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^x}{n}right)^{1/x}&=lim_{xto 0} exp dfrac{1}{x}lnleft(dfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^x}{n}right)\&=lim_{xto 0}exp dfrac{n}{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^x}cdotdfrac{mathrm d}{mathrm dx}left[dfrac{displaystyle sum_{kin S} k^x}{n}right]\&=lim_{xto 0}exp dfrac{n}{displaystyle sum_{kin S}k^x}cdotdfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^xln k}{n}\ &=lim_{xto 0}exp dfrac{displaystylesum_{kin S}k^xln k}{displaystyle sum_{kin S}k^x}to exp dfrac{ln n!}{n}=sqrt[n]{n!}end{aligned}$$







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                Actually, $ln(y)=frac{1}{x}ln{frac{(1^x+2^x+...+n^x)}{n}}$. Whenever after putting $x=0$ you get the form $1^{infty}$, you need to take $ln$ and find the limit.



                Here, after putting $x=0$, we have $big(frac{1^0+2^0+cdots +n^0}{n}big)^{1/0}=1^{infty}$. So taking $ln$ in both side and finding limit is correct approach.






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                  Actually, $ln(y)=frac{1}{x}ln{frac{(1^x+2^x+...+n^x)}{n}}$. Whenever after putting $x=0$ you get the form $1^{infty}$, you need to take $ln$ and find the limit.



                  Here, after putting $x=0$, we have $big(frac{1^0+2^0+cdots +n^0}{n}big)^{1/0}=1^{infty}$. So taking $ln$ in both side and finding limit is correct approach.






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                    Actually, $ln(y)=frac{1}{x}ln{frac{(1^x+2^x+...+n^x)}{n}}$. Whenever after putting $x=0$ you get the form $1^{infty}$, you need to take $ln$ and find the limit.



                    Here, after putting $x=0$, we have $big(frac{1^0+2^0+cdots +n^0}{n}big)^{1/0}=1^{infty}$. So taking $ln$ in both side and finding limit is correct approach.






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                    Actually, $ln(y)=frac{1}{x}ln{frac{(1^x+2^x+...+n^x)}{n}}$. Whenever after putting $x=0$ you get the form $1^{infty}$, you need to take $ln$ and find the limit.



                    Here, after putting $x=0$, we have $big(frac{1^0+2^0+cdots +n^0}{n}big)^{1/0}=1^{infty}$. So taking $ln$ in both side and finding limit is correct approach.







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                        Your basic approach is fine but there are some problems. The first is where you say "taking $lim$ on both sides". You can't take the limit unless you know the limit exists. But that is part of the exercise, right? I would omit the $lim$ business until the end. Second, why do you still have $ln y$ on the left after "taking the limit"? Finally, you didn't get the correct expression in using LHR. It should be



                        $$frac{n}{1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x}cdotfrac{1^xln(1)+cdots +n^xln(n)}{n}.$$






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                          Your basic approach is fine but there are some problems. The first is where you say "taking $lim$ on both sides". You can't take the limit unless you know the limit exists. But that is part of the exercise, right? I would omit the $lim$ business until the end. Second, why do you still have $ln y$ on the left after "taking the limit"? Finally, you didn't get the correct expression in using LHR. It should be



                          $$frac{n}{1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x}cdotfrac{1^xln(1)+cdots +n^xln(n)}{n}.$$






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                            Your basic approach is fine but there are some problems. The first is where you say "taking $lim$ on both sides". You can't take the limit unless you know the limit exists. But that is part of the exercise, right? I would omit the $lim$ business until the end. Second, why do you still have $ln y$ on the left after "taking the limit"? Finally, you didn't get the correct expression in using LHR. It should be



                            $$frac{n}{1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x}cdotfrac{1^xln(1)+cdots +n^xln(n)}{n}.$$






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                            Your basic approach is fine but there are some problems. The first is where you say "taking $lim$ on both sides". You can't take the limit unless you know the limit exists. But that is part of the exercise, right? I would omit the $lim$ business until the end. Second, why do you still have $ln y$ on the left after "taking the limit"? Finally, you didn't get the correct expression in using LHR. It should be



                            $$frac{n}{1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x}cdotfrac{1^xln(1)+cdots +n^xln(n)}{n}.$$







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                                I write this answer only because the wrong one is accepted.



                                There is an error in your final expression. It should be:



                                $$lim_{xto 0}frac{n}{1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x}frac{1^xln(1)+cdots +n^xln(n)}{color{red}n}=frac{ln n!}{n}.$$



                                Correspondingly:
                                $$
                                limlimits_{xto 0} left (frac{1^x+2^x+3^x+dots+n^x}{n} right )^{frac 1 x}=sqrt[n]{n!}.
                                $$






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                                  This was pointed out in my answer.
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                                  @zhw. This was pointed out also in my comment, which I wrote even before the accepted answer has appeared. I am sorry that I did not notice your answer before and can confirm that it is correct.
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                                  Hey, no problem, just pointing it out.
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                                I write this answer only because the wrong one is accepted.



                                There is an error in your final expression. It should be:



                                $$lim_{xto 0}frac{n}{1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x}frac{1^xln(1)+cdots +n^xln(n)}{color{red}n}=frac{ln n!}{n}.$$



                                Correspondingly:
                                $$
                                limlimits_{xto 0} left (frac{1^x+2^x+3^x+dots+n^x}{n} right )^{frac 1 x}=sqrt[n]{n!}.
                                $$






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                                  This was pointed out in my answer.
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                                  @zhw. This was pointed out also in my comment, which I wrote even before the accepted answer has appeared. I am sorry that I did not notice your answer before and can confirm that it is correct.
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                                  Hey, no problem, just pointing it out.
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                                I write this answer only because the wrong one is accepted.



                                There is an error in your final expression. It should be:



                                $$lim_{xto 0}frac{n}{1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x}frac{1^xln(1)+cdots +n^xln(n)}{color{red}n}=frac{ln n!}{n}.$$



                                Correspondingly:
                                $$
                                limlimits_{xto 0} left (frac{1^x+2^x+3^x+dots+n^x}{n} right )^{frac 1 x}=sqrt[n]{n!}.
                                $$






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                                I write this answer only because the wrong one is accepted.



                                There is an error in your final expression. It should be:



                                $$lim_{xto 0}frac{n}{1^x+2^x+cdots +n^x}frac{1^xln(1)+cdots +n^xln(n)}{color{red}n}=frac{ln n!}{n}.$$



                                Correspondingly:
                                $$
                                limlimits_{xto 0} left (frac{1^x+2^x+3^x+dots+n^x}{n} right )^{frac 1 x}=sqrt[n]{n!}.
                                $$







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                                  This was pointed out in my answer.
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                                  – zhw.
                                  Mar 23 at 18:57










                                • $begingroup$
                                  @zhw. This was pointed out also in my comment, which I wrote even before the accepted answer has appeared. I am sorry that I did not notice your answer before and can confirm that it is correct.
                                  $endgroup$
                                  – user
                                  Mar 23 at 19:01












                                • $begingroup$
                                  Hey, no problem, just pointing it out.
                                  $endgroup$
                                  – zhw.
                                  Mar 23 at 20:02


















                                • $begingroup$
                                  This was pointed out in my answer.
                                  $endgroup$
                                  – zhw.
                                  Mar 23 at 18:57










                                • $begingroup$
                                  @zhw. This was pointed out also in my comment, which I wrote even before the accepted answer has appeared. I am sorry that I did not notice your answer before and can confirm that it is correct.
                                  $endgroup$
                                  – user
                                  Mar 23 at 19:01












                                • $begingroup$
                                  Hey, no problem, just pointing it out.
                                  $endgroup$
                                  – zhw.
                                  Mar 23 at 20:02
















                                $begingroup$
                                This was pointed out in my answer.
                                $endgroup$
                                – zhw.
                                Mar 23 at 18:57




                                $begingroup$
                                This was pointed out in my answer.
                                $endgroup$
                                – zhw.
                                Mar 23 at 18:57












                                $begingroup$
                                @zhw. This was pointed out also in my comment, which I wrote even before the accepted answer has appeared. I am sorry that I did not notice your answer before and can confirm that it is correct.
                                $endgroup$
                                – user
                                Mar 23 at 19:01






                                $begingroup$
                                @zhw. This was pointed out also in my comment, which I wrote even before the accepted answer has appeared. I am sorry that I did not notice your answer before and can confirm that it is correct.
                                $endgroup$
                                – user
                                Mar 23 at 19:01














                                $begingroup$
                                Hey, no problem, just pointing it out.
                                $endgroup$
                                – zhw.
                                Mar 23 at 20:02




                                $begingroup$
                                Hey, no problem, just pointing it out.
                                $endgroup$
                                – zhw.
                                Mar 23 at 20:02


















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