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What is the Galois group of $(x^2 + 2x − 1)(x^3 + 3x^2 + 3x − 6)$ over $mathbb Q$?



I noticed that this polynomial can also be written as $((x+1)^2-2)((x+1)^3-7)$, can this be of any help?



Can I treat the polynomial as $((x')^2-2)((x')^3-7)$ for $x'=x+1$ and would that change the answer?










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    I noticed that this polynomial can also be written as $((x+1)^2-2)((x+1)^3-7)$, can this be of any help?



    Can I treat the polynomial as $((x')^2-2)((x')^3-7)$ for $x'=x+1$ and would that change the answer?










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      What is the Galois group of $(x^2 + 2x − 1)(x^3 + 3x^2 + 3x − 6)$ over $mathbb Q$?



      I noticed that this polynomial can also be written as $((x+1)^2-2)((x+1)^3-7)$, can this be of any help?



      Can I treat the polynomial as $((x')^2-2)((x')^3-7)$ for $x'=x+1$ and would that change the answer?










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      What is the Galois group of $(x^2 + 2x − 1)(x^3 + 3x^2 + 3x − 6)$ over $mathbb Q$?



      I noticed that this polynomial can also be written as $((x+1)^2-2)((x+1)^3-7)$, can this be of any help?



      Can I treat the polynomial as $((x')^2-2)((x')^3-7)$ for $x'=x+1$ and would that change the answer?







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          Both things you've noticed is of help. The second note just shows that the roots of $(x+1)^{2}-2$ are $x=pmsqrt{2}-1$ because $x'=x+1$ and $x'=pmsqrt{2}$ are the roots of $(x')^{2}-2$ and you can show that $K_{1}=mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})=mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}-1)$. Likewise for the second factor (where the splitting field is $K_{2}=mathbb{Q}(sqrt[3]{7},zeta_{3})$ where $zeta_{3}$ is a primitive third root of unity). Now just show that $$mathbb{Q}(sqrt[3]{7},zeta_{3})capmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})=mathbb{Q},$$ and consider the compositum $L=K_{1}K_{2}=mathbb{Q}(sqrt[3]{7},zeta_{3},sqrt{2})$ as an extension over $mathbb{Q}$. $L/mathbb{Q}$ is Galois and we have the following isomorphism of Galois groups
          $$operatorname{Gal}(L/mathbb{Q})stackrel{simeq}{longrightarrow}operatorname{Gal}(K_{1}/mathbb{Q})timesoperatorname{Gal}(K_{2}/mathbb{Q}),$$
          which you can use to deduce the answer.






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            Both things you've noticed is of help. The second note just shows that the roots of $(x+1)^{2}-2$ are $x=pmsqrt{2}-1$ because $x'=x+1$ and $x'=pmsqrt{2}$ are the roots of $(x')^{2}-2$ and you can show that $K_{1}=mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})=mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}-1)$. Likewise for the second factor (where the splitting field is $K_{2}=mathbb{Q}(sqrt[3]{7},zeta_{3})$ where $zeta_{3}$ is a primitive third root of unity). Now just show that $$mathbb{Q}(sqrt[3]{7},zeta_{3})capmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})=mathbb{Q},$$ and consider the compositum $L=K_{1}K_{2}=mathbb{Q}(sqrt[3]{7},zeta_{3},sqrt{2})$ as an extension over $mathbb{Q}$. $L/mathbb{Q}$ is Galois and we have the following isomorphism of Galois groups
            $$operatorname{Gal}(L/mathbb{Q})stackrel{simeq}{longrightarrow}operatorname{Gal}(K_{1}/mathbb{Q})timesoperatorname{Gal}(K_{2}/mathbb{Q}),$$
            which you can use to deduce the answer.






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              Both things you've noticed is of help. The second note just shows that the roots of $(x+1)^{2}-2$ are $x=pmsqrt{2}-1$ because $x'=x+1$ and $x'=pmsqrt{2}$ are the roots of $(x')^{2}-2$ and you can show that $K_{1}=mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})=mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}-1)$. Likewise for the second factor (where the splitting field is $K_{2}=mathbb{Q}(sqrt[3]{7},zeta_{3})$ where $zeta_{3}$ is a primitive third root of unity). Now just show that $$mathbb{Q}(sqrt[3]{7},zeta_{3})capmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})=mathbb{Q},$$ and consider the compositum $L=K_{1}K_{2}=mathbb{Q}(sqrt[3]{7},zeta_{3},sqrt{2})$ as an extension over $mathbb{Q}$. $L/mathbb{Q}$ is Galois and we have the following isomorphism of Galois groups
              $$operatorname{Gal}(L/mathbb{Q})stackrel{simeq}{longrightarrow}operatorname{Gal}(K_{1}/mathbb{Q})timesoperatorname{Gal}(K_{2}/mathbb{Q}),$$
              which you can use to deduce the answer.






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                Both things you've noticed is of help. The second note just shows that the roots of $(x+1)^{2}-2$ are $x=pmsqrt{2}-1$ because $x'=x+1$ and $x'=pmsqrt{2}$ are the roots of $(x')^{2}-2$ and you can show that $K_{1}=mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})=mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}-1)$. Likewise for the second factor (where the splitting field is $K_{2}=mathbb{Q}(sqrt[3]{7},zeta_{3})$ where $zeta_{3}$ is a primitive third root of unity). Now just show that $$mathbb{Q}(sqrt[3]{7},zeta_{3})capmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})=mathbb{Q},$$ and consider the compositum $L=K_{1}K_{2}=mathbb{Q}(sqrt[3]{7},zeta_{3},sqrt{2})$ as an extension over $mathbb{Q}$. $L/mathbb{Q}$ is Galois and we have the following isomorphism of Galois groups
                $$operatorname{Gal}(L/mathbb{Q})stackrel{simeq}{longrightarrow}operatorname{Gal}(K_{1}/mathbb{Q})timesoperatorname{Gal}(K_{2}/mathbb{Q}),$$
                which you can use to deduce the answer.






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                Both things you've noticed is of help. The second note just shows that the roots of $(x+1)^{2}-2$ are $x=pmsqrt{2}-1$ because $x'=x+1$ and $x'=pmsqrt{2}$ are the roots of $(x')^{2}-2$ and you can show that $K_{1}=mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})=mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}-1)$. Likewise for the second factor (where the splitting field is $K_{2}=mathbb{Q}(sqrt[3]{7},zeta_{3})$ where $zeta_{3}$ is a primitive third root of unity). Now just show that $$mathbb{Q}(sqrt[3]{7},zeta_{3})capmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})=mathbb{Q},$$ and consider the compositum $L=K_{1}K_{2}=mathbb{Q}(sqrt[3]{7},zeta_{3},sqrt{2})$ as an extension over $mathbb{Q}$. $L/mathbb{Q}$ is Galois and we have the following isomorphism of Galois groups
                $$operatorname{Gal}(L/mathbb{Q})stackrel{simeq}{longrightarrow}operatorname{Gal}(K_{1}/mathbb{Q})timesoperatorname{Gal}(K_{2}/mathbb{Q}),$$
                which you can use to deduce the answer.







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