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Unique factorization of dihedral group
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My goal is to prove the following about the dihedral group $D_{2n}$:
Prove that every element in $D_{2n}$ has a unique factorization of the form $a^{i}b^{j}$, where $0 leq i < n$ and $j=0$ or $1.$
I know that the cyclic subgroup $left langle a right rangle$ has order $n.$ From this, I know that this has index $2.$ Thus $D_{2n}$ is the disjoint union
$$left langle a right rangle cup left langle a right rangle b.$$
After this, I am pretty stuck. Am I headed in the right direction? What would be the correct way to finish this proof?
Thanks in advance!
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My goal is to prove the following about the dihedral group $D_{2n}$:
Prove that every element in $D_{2n}$ has a unique factorization of the form $a^{i}b^{j}$, where $0 leq i < n$ and $j=0$ or $1.$
I know that the cyclic subgroup $left langle a right rangle$ has order $n.$ From this, I know that this has index $2.$ Thus $D_{2n}$ is the disjoint union
$$left langle a right rangle cup left langle a right rangle b.$$
After this, I am pretty stuck. Am I headed in the right direction? What would be the correct way to finish this proof?
Thanks in advance!
abstract-algebra group-theory dihedral-groups
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If you already know that $D_{2n}$ is a disjoint union of $langle arangle$ and $langle arangle b$, then why don't you already know that every element can be written as $a^ib^j$ with $j=0$ or $1$, $0leq ilt n$? And once you know there is at least one such factorization, what is the difficulty in proving uniqueness?
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– Arturo Magidin
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So, I gather from what you are saying that the proof is almost complete. I just need to show it is unique?
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– MathIsLife12
yesterday
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Well, you also need to realize why you've already proven the existence of the factorization...
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– Arturo Magidin
yesterday
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My goal is to prove the following about the dihedral group $D_{2n}$:
Prove that every element in $D_{2n}$ has a unique factorization of the form $a^{i}b^{j}$, where $0 leq i < n$ and $j=0$ or $1.$
I know that the cyclic subgroup $left langle a right rangle$ has order $n.$ From this, I know that this has index $2.$ Thus $D_{2n}$ is the disjoint union
$$left langle a right rangle cup left langle a right rangle b.$$
After this, I am pretty stuck. Am I headed in the right direction? What would be the correct way to finish this proof?
Thanks in advance!
abstract-algebra group-theory dihedral-groups
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My goal is to prove the following about the dihedral group $D_{2n}$:
Prove that every element in $D_{2n}$ has a unique factorization of the form $a^{i}b^{j}$, where $0 leq i < n$ and $j=0$ or $1.$
I know that the cyclic subgroup $left langle a right rangle$ has order $n.$ From this, I know that this has index $2.$ Thus $D_{2n}$ is the disjoint union
$$left langle a right rangle cup left langle a right rangle b.$$
After this, I am pretty stuck. Am I headed in the right direction? What would be the correct way to finish this proof?
Thanks in advance!
abstract-algebra group-theory dihedral-groups
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If you already know that $D_{2n}$ is a disjoint union of $langle arangle$ and $langle arangle b$, then why don't you already know that every element can be written as $a^ib^j$ with $j=0$ or $1$, $0leq ilt n$? And once you know there is at least one such factorization, what is the difficulty in proving uniqueness?
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– Arturo Magidin
yesterday
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So, I gather from what you are saying that the proof is almost complete. I just need to show it is unique?
$endgroup$
– MathIsLife12
yesterday
2
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Well, you also need to realize why you've already proven the existence of the factorization...
$endgroup$
– Arturo Magidin
yesterday
add a comment |
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$begingroup$
If you already know that $D_{2n}$ is a disjoint union of $langle arangle$ and $langle arangle b$, then why don't you already know that every element can be written as $a^ib^j$ with $j=0$ or $1$, $0leq ilt n$? And once you know there is at least one such factorization, what is the difficulty in proving uniqueness?
$endgroup$
– Arturo Magidin
yesterday
$begingroup$
So, I gather from what you are saying that the proof is almost complete. I just need to show it is unique?
$endgroup$
– MathIsLife12
yesterday
2
$begingroup$
Well, you also need to realize why you've already proven the existence of the factorization...
$endgroup$
– Arturo Magidin
yesterday
1
1
$begingroup$
If you already know that $D_{2n}$ is a disjoint union of $langle arangle$ and $langle arangle b$, then why don't you already know that every element can be written as $a^ib^j$ with $j=0$ or $1$, $0leq ilt n$? And once you know there is at least one such factorization, what is the difficulty in proving uniqueness?
$endgroup$
– Arturo Magidin
yesterday
$begingroup$
If you already know that $D_{2n}$ is a disjoint union of $langle arangle$ and $langle arangle b$, then why don't you already know that every element can be written as $a^ib^j$ with $j=0$ or $1$, $0leq ilt n$? And once you know there is at least one such factorization, what is the difficulty in proving uniqueness?
$endgroup$
– Arturo Magidin
yesterday
$begingroup$
So, I gather from what you are saying that the proof is almost complete. I just need to show it is unique?
$endgroup$
– MathIsLife12
yesterday
$begingroup$
So, I gather from what you are saying that the proof is almost complete. I just need to show it is unique?
$endgroup$
– MathIsLife12
yesterday
2
2
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Well, you also need to realize why you've already proven the existence of the factorization...
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– Arturo Magidin
yesterday
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Well, you also need to realize why you've already proven the existence of the factorization...
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– Arturo Magidin
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You want products of the form:
$a^{i}b^{j}$, where $0 leq i < n$ and $j=0$ or $1.$
there are $2n$ of these: $a^0,a^1,ldots,a^{n-1}$ and $a^0b,a^1b,ldots,a^{n-1}b$. These $2n$ products each give you an element of $D_{2n}$ so as long as they all represent distinct elements, the factorization is unique.
The $n$ products of the form $a^i$ are distinct because $|a| = n$. Likewise, the elements $a^ib$ are distinct because $a^{i_1}b = a^{i_2}b$ implies $a^{i_1} = a^{i_2}$ by cancellation, and then $i_1 = i_2$ since $0leq i leq n$. Finally, there's no $a^{i_1} b = a^{i_2}$ because that would imply that $b in left<aright>$.
That means your $2n$ products are in 1-to-1 correspondence with the elements of $D_{2n}$; each element of $D_{2n}$ has a unique representative as one of the products.
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You want products of the form:
$a^{i}b^{j}$, where $0 leq i < n$ and $j=0$ or $1.$
there are $2n$ of these: $a^0,a^1,ldots,a^{n-1}$ and $a^0b,a^1b,ldots,a^{n-1}b$. These $2n$ products each give you an element of $D_{2n}$ so as long as they all represent distinct elements, the factorization is unique.
The $n$ products of the form $a^i$ are distinct because $|a| = n$. Likewise, the elements $a^ib$ are distinct because $a^{i_1}b = a^{i_2}b$ implies $a^{i_1} = a^{i_2}$ by cancellation, and then $i_1 = i_2$ since $0leq i leq n$. Finally, there's no $a^{i_1} b = a^{i_2}$ because that would imply that $b in left<aright>$.
That means your $2n$ products are in 1-to-1 correspondence with the elements of $D_{2n}$; each element of $D_{2n}$ has a unique representative as one of the products.
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You want products of the form:
$a^{i}b^{j}$, where $0 leq i < n$ and $j=0$ or $1.$
there are $2n$ of these: $a^0,a^1,ldots,a^{n-1}$ and $a^0b,a^1b,ldots,a^{n-1}b$. These $2n$ products each give you an element of $D_{2n}$ so as long as they all represent distinct elements, the factorization is unique.
The $n$ products of the form $a^i$ are distinct because $|a| = n$. Likewise, the elements $a^ib$ are distinct because $a^{i_1}b = a^{i_2}b$ implies $a^{i_1} = a^{i_2}$ by cancellation, and then $i_1 = i_2$ since $0leq i leq n$. Finally, there's no $a^{i_1} b = a^{i_2}$ because that would imply that $b in left<aright>$.
That means your $2n$ products are in 1-to-1 correspondence with the elements of $D_{2n}$; each element of $D_{2n}$ has a unique representative as one of the products.
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You want products of the form:
$a^{i}b^{j}$, where $0 leq i < n$ and $j=0$ or $1.$
there are $2n$ of these: $a^0,a^1,ldots,a^{n-1}$ and $a^0b,a^1b,ldots,a^{n-1}b$. These $2n$ products each give you an element of $D_{2n}$ so as long as they all represent distinct elements, the factorization is unique.
The $n$ products of the form $a^i$ are distinct because $|a| = n$. Likewise, the elements $a^ib$ are distinct because $a^{i_1}b = a^{i_2}b$ implies $a^{i_1} = a^{i_2}$ by cancellation, and then $i_1 = i_2$ since $0leq i leq n$. Finally, there's no $a^{i_1} b = a^{i_2}$ because that would imply that $b in left<aright>$.
That means your $2n$ products are in 1-to-1 correspondence with the elements of $D_{2n}$; each element of $D_{2n}$ has a unique representative as one of the products.
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You want products of the form:
$a^{i}b^{j}$, where $0 leq i < n$ and $j=0$ or $1.$
there are $2n$ of these: $a^0,a^1,ldots,a^{n-1}$ and $a^0b,a^1b,ldots,a^{n-1}b$. These $2n$ products each give you an element of $D_{2n}$ so as long as they all represent distinct elements, the factorization is unique.
The $n$ products of the form $a^i$ are distinct because $|a| = n$. Likewise, the elements $a^ib$ are distinct because $a^{i_1}b = a^{i_2}b$ implies $a^{i_1} = a^{i_2}$ by cancellation, and then $i_1 = i_2$ since $0leq i leq n$. Finally, there's no $a^{i_1} b = a^{i_2}$ because that would imply that $b in left<aright>$.
That means your $2n$ products are in 1-to-1 correspondence with the elements of $D_{2n}$; each element of $D_{2n}$ has a unique representative as one of the products.
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If you already know that $D_{2n}$ is a disjoint union of $langle arangle$ and $langle arangle b$, then why don't you already know that every element can be written as $a^ib^j$ with $j=0$ or $1$, $0leq ilt n$? And once you know there is at least one such factorization, what is the difficulty in proving uniqueness?
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– Arturo Magidin
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So, I gather from what you are saying that the proof is almost complete. I just need to show it is unique?
$endgroup$
– MathIsLife12
yesterday
2
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Well, you also need to realize why you've already proven the existence of the factorization...
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– Arturo Magidin
yesterday