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Prove that $sum_{j=0}^n sum_{k=0}^j p_k q_{j-k} r_{n-j} = sum_{k=0}^n sum_{j=k}^n p_k q_{j-k} r_{n-j}$



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I encounter this problem when proving that $Bbb R[[X]] := (Bbb R^Bbb N,+,cdot)$ is actually a formal power series ring over $Bbb R$.




Let $(p_n mid n in Bbb N), (q_n mid n in Bbb N), (r_n mid n in Bbb N)$ be sequences in $Bbb R$. Prove that $$sum_{j=0}^n sum_{k=0}^j p_k q_{j-k} r_{n-j} = sum_{k=0}^n sum_{j=k}^n p_k q_{j-k} r_{n-j}$$




I have tried to manipulate the indices $j,k,n$ but to no avail. Please leave me some hints. Thank you so much!










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    I encounter this problem when proving that $Bbb R[[X]] := (Bbb R^Bbb N,+,cdot)$ is actually a formal power series ring over $Bbb R$.




    Let $(p_n mid n in Bbb N), (q_n mid n in Bbb N), (r_n mid n in Bbb N)$ be sequences in $Bbb R$. Prove that $$sum_{j=0}^n sum_{k=0}^j p_k q_{j-k} r_{n-j} = sum_{k=0}^n sum_{j=k}^n p_k q_{j-k} r_{n-j}$$




    I have tried to manipulate the indices $j,k,n$ but to no avail. Please leave me some hints. Thank you so much!










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      I encounter this problem when proving that $Bbb R[[X]] := (Bbb R^Bbb N,+,cdot)$ is actually a formal power series ring over $Bbb R$.




      Let $(p_n mid n in Bbb N), (q_n mid n in Bbb N), (r_n mid n in Bbb N)$ be sequences in $Bbb R$. Prove that $$sum_{j=0}^n sum_{k=0}^j p_k q_{j-k} r_{n-j} = sum_{k=0}^n sum_{j=k}^n p_k q_{j-k} r_{n-j}$$




      I have tried to manipulate the indices $j,k,n$ but to no avail. Please leave me some hints. Thank you so much!










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      I encounter this problem when proving that $Bbb R[[X]] := (Bbb R^Bbb N,+,cdot)$ is actually a formal power series ring over $Bbb R$.




      Let $(p_n mid n in Bbb N), (q_n mid n in Bbb N), (r_n mid n in Bbb N)$ be sequences in $Bbb R$. Prove that $$sum_{j=0}^n sum_{k=0}^j p_k q_{j-k} r_{n-j} = sum_{k=0}^n sum_{j=k}^n p_k q_{j-k} r_{n-j}$$




      I have tried to manipulate the indices $j,k,n$ but to no avail. Please leave me some hints. Thank you so much!







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          You are adding the same numbers in a different order The condition $0 leq k leq j leq n$ is same as $j geq k $ , $j leq n$ and $0leq k$ so the terms on the two sides are the same.






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            All you have to prove is that the sets of indices the sums run over are the same. In fact, they are both equal to



            $$S{(j, k)| 0leq j,lleq nland kleq j}$$



            That is, you can prove that in both sums, the index pair $(j,k)$ appears in the sum if and only if $(j, k)in S$.






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              You are adding the same numbers in a different order The condition $0 leq k leq j leq n$ is same as $j geq k $ , $j leq n$ and $0leq k$ so the terms on the two sides are the same.






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                You are adding the same numbers in a different order The condition $0 leq k leq j leq n$ is same as $j geq k $ , $j leq n$ and $0leq k$ so the terms on the two sides are the same.






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                  You are adding the same numbers in a different order The condition $0 leq k leq j leq n$ is same as $j geq k $ , $j leq n$ and $0leq k$ so the terms on the two sides are the same.






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                  You are adding the same numbers in a different order The condition $0 leq k leq j leq n$ is same as $j geq k $ , $j leq n$ and $0leq k$ so the terms on the two sides are the same.







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                      All you have to prove is that the sets of indices the sums run over are the same. In fact, they are both equal to



                      $$S{(j, k)| 0leq j,lleq nland kleq j}$$



                      That is, you can prove that in both sums, the index pair $(j,k)$ appears in the sum if and only if $(j, k)in S$.






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                        All you have to prove is that the sets of indices the sums run over are the same. In fact, they are both equal to



                        $$S{(j, k)| 0leq j,lleq nland kleq j}$$



                        That is, you can prove that in both sums, the index pair $(j,k)$ appears in the sum if and only if $(j, k)in S$.






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                          All you have to prove is that the sets of indices the sums run over are the same. In fact, they are both equal to



                          $$S{(j, k)| 0leq j,lleq nland kleq j}$$



                          That is, you can prove that in both sums, the index pair $(j,k)$ appears in the sum if and only if $(j, k)in S$.






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                          All you have to prove is that the sets of indices the sums run over are the same. In fact, they are both equal to



                          $$S{(j, k)| 0leq j,lleq nland kleq j}$$



                          That is, you can prove that in both sums, the index pair $(j,k)$ appears in the sum if and only if $(j, k)in S$.







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