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Is the vector cross product only defined for 3D?
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The math book i'm using states that the cross product for two vectors is defined over $R^3$:
$$u = (a,b,c)$$
$$v = (d,e,f)$$
is:
$$u times v = begin{vmatrix}
hat{i} & hat{j} & hat{k} \
a & b & c \
d & e & f \
end{vmatrix}
$$
and the direction of the resultant is determined by curling fingers from vector v to u with thumb pointing in direction of the cross product of u x v.
Out of curiosity, what's the cross product if u and v are defined over $R^2$ instead of $R^3$ instead:
$$u = (a,b)$$
$$v = (d,e)$$
Is there a "degenerate" case for the cross product of $R^2$ instead $R^3$? like this is some type of 2x2 determinant instead?
for instance if had a parameterization:
$$Phi(u, v) = ( f(u), g(v) )$$
and needed to calculate in $R^2$:
$$
D = Bigg| frac{partial{Phi}}{partial{u}} times frac{partial{Phi}}{partial{v}} Bigg|
$$
There are plenty of examples in the book for calculating the determinate D in $R^3$ but none at all for $R^2$ case.
As in:
$$
iint_{V} f(x,y) dx dy = iint_{Q} f(Phi(u,v) Bigg| frac{partial{Phi}}{partial{u}} times frac{partial{Phi}}{partial{v}} Bigg|
$$
$$
Phi(u,v)=(2u cos v, u sin v)
$$
multivariable-calculus vectors
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add a comment |
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This question already has an answer here:
Is the vector cross product only defined for 3D?
6 answers
The math book i'm using states that the cross product for two vectors is defined over $R^3$:
$$u = (a,b,c)$$
$$v = (d,e,f)$$
is:
$$u times v = begin{vmatrix}
hat{i} & hat{j} & hat{k} \
a & b & c \
d & e & f \
end{vmatrix}
$$
and the direction of the resultant is determined by curling fingers from vector v to u with thumb pointing in direction of the cross product of u x v.
Out of curiosity, what's the cross product if u and v are defined over $R^2$ instead of $R^3$ instead:
$$u = (a,b)$$
$$v = (d,e)$$
Is there a "degenerate" case for the cross product of $R^2$ instead $R^3$? like this is some type of 2x2 determinant instead?
for instance if had a parameterization:
$$Phi(u, v) = ( f(u), g(v) )$$
and needed to calculate in $R^2$:
$$
D = Bigg| frac{partial{Phi}}{partial{u}} times frac{partial{Phi}}{partial{v}} Bigg|
$$
There are plenty of examples in the book for calculating the determinate D in $R^3$ but none at all for $R^2$ case.
As in:
$$
iint_{V} f(x,y) dx dy = iint_{Q} f(Phi(u,v) Bigg| frac{partial{Phi}}{partial{u}} times frac{partial{Phi}}{partial{v}} Bigg|
$$
$$
Phi(u,v)=(2u cos v, u sin v)
$$
multivariable-calculus vectors
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marked as duplicate by Cesareo, Leucippus, Eevee Trainer, Shailesh, Lee David Chung Lin Mar 23 at 3:51
This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.
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Point for you to ponder on - the cross product of two vectors gives a third vector, perpendicular to the original two vectors. Could you define a (meaningful) cross product in R^2 that would imitate that property? Moreover, there are similar threads to this one in MSE, I recommend you to try reading some of them :)
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– GSofer
Mar 22 at 20:29
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mean is in th last integral listed above... I have a parameterization defined over R^2... wondering what this degenerates to when taking R^3 formula and applying it to R^2 case...
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– DiscreteMath
Mar 22 at 20:30
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for example, maybe we pretend there's a 3 dimension there when we need it to perform the cross product?
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– DiscreteMath
Mar 22 at 20:31
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You can consider the "cross product" of a single vector $(a,b)$ to be the vector $(-b,a)$ perpendicular to it.
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– Théophile
Mar 22 at 20:32
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Alternatively, you could consider the two vectors in $Bbb R^2$ to have $z$-co-ordinate $0$, so that their "cross product" would be $(0,0,k)$ for some $k$. But it really depends on what you're looking for.
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– Théophile
Mar 22 at 20:33
add a comment |
$begingroup$
This question already has an answer here:
Is the vector cross product only defined for 3D?
6 answers
The math book i'm using states that the cross product for two vectors is defined over $R^3$:
$$u = (a,b,c)$$
$$v = (d,e,f)$$
is:
$$u times v = begin{vmatrix}
hat{i} & hat{j} & hat{k} \
a & b & c \
d & e & f \
end{vmatrix}
$$
and the direction of the resultant is determined by curling fingers from vector v to u with thumb pointing in direction of the cross product of u x v.
Out of curiosity, what's the cross product if u and v are defined over $R^2$ instead of $R^3$ instead:
$$u = (a,b)$$
$$v = (d,e)$$
Is there a "degenerate" case for the cross product of $R^2$ instead $R^3$? like this is some type of 2x2 determinant instead?
for instance if had a parameterization:
$$Phi(u, v) = ( f(u), g(v) )$$
and needed to calculate in $R^2$:
$$
D = Bigg| frac{partial{Phi}}{partial{u}} times frac{partial{Phi}}{partial{v}} Bigg|
$$
There are plenty of examples in the book for calculating the determinate D in $R^3$ but none at all for $R^2$ case.
As in:
$$
iint_{V} f(x,y) dx dy = iint_{Q} f(Phi(u,v) Bigg| frac{partial{Phi}}{partial{u}} times frac{partial{Phi}}{partial{v}} Bigg|
$$
$$
Phi(u,v)=(2u cos v, u sin v)
$$
multivariable-calculus vectors
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This question already has an answer here:
Is the vector cross product only defined for 3D?
6 answers
The math book i'm using states that the cross product for two vectors is defined over $R^3$:
$$u = (a,b,c)$$
$$v = (d,e,f)$$
is:
$$u times v = begin{vmatrix}
hat{i} & hat{j} & hat{k} \
a & b & c \
d & e & f \
end{vmatrix}
$$
and the direction of the resultant is determined by curling fingers from vector v to u with thumb pointing in direction of the cross product of u x v.
Out of curiosity, what's the cross product if u and v are defined over $R^2$ instead of $R^3$ instead:
$$u = (a,b)$$
$$v = (d,e)$$
Is there a "degenerate" case for the cross product of $R^2$ instead $R^3$? like this is some type of 2x2 determinant instead?
for instance if had a parameterization:
$$Phi(u, v) = ( f(u), g(v) )$$
and needed to calculate in $R^2$:
$$
D = Bigg| frac{partial{Phi}}{partial{u}} times frac{partial{Phi}}{partial{v}} Bigg|
$$
There are plenty of examples in the book for calculating the determinate D in $R^3$ but none at all for $R^2$ case.
As in:
$$
iint_{V} f(x,y) dx dy = iint_{Q} f(Phi(u,v) Bigg| frac{partial{Phi}}{partial{u}} times frac{partial{Phi}}{partial{v}} Bigg|
$$
$$
Phi(u,v)=(2u cos v, u sin v)
$$
This question already has an answer here:
Is the vector cross product only defined for 3D?
6 answers
multivariable-calculus vectors
multivariable-calculus vectors
edited Mar 22 at 23:23
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asked Mar 22 at 20:17
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marked as duplicate by Cesareo, Leucippus, Eevee Trainer, Shailesh, Lee David Chung Lin Mar 23 at 3:51
This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.
marked as duplicate by Cesareo, Leucippus, Eevee Trainer, Shailesh, Lee David Chung Lin Mar 23 at 3:51
This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.
$begingroup$
Point for you to ponder on - the cross product of two vectors gives a third vector, perpendicular to the original two vectors. Could you define a (meaningful) cross product in R^2 that would imitate that property? Moreover, there are similar threads to this one in MSE, I recommend you to try reading some of them :)
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– GSofer
Mar 22 at 20:29
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mean is in th last integral listed above... I have a parameterization defined over R^2... wondering what this degenerates to when taking R^3 formula and applying it to R^2 case...
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– DiscreteMath
Mar 22 at 20:30
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for example, maybe we pretend there's a 3 dimension there when we need it to perform the cross product?
$endgroup$
– DiscreteMath
Mar 22 at 20:31
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You can consider the "cross product" of a single vector $(a,b)$ to be the vector $(-b,a)$ perpendicular to it.
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– Théophile
Mar 22 at 20:32
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Alternatively, you could consider the two vectors in $Bbb R^2$ to have $z$-co-ordinate $0$, so that their "cross product" would be $(0,0,k)$ for some $k$. But it really depends on what you're looking for.
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– Théophile
Mar 22 at 20:33
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Point for you to ponder on - the cross product of two vectors gives a third vector, perpendicular to the original two vectors. Could you define a (meaningful) cross product in R^2 that would imitate that property? Moreover, there are similar threads to this one in MSE, I recommend you to try reading some of them :)
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– GSofer
Mar 22 at 20:29
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mean is in th last integral listed above... I have a parameterization defined over R^2... wondering what this degenerates to when taking R^3 formula and applying it to R^2 case...
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– DiscreteMath
Mar 22 at 20:30
$begingroup$
for example, maybe we pretend there's a 3 dimension there when we need it to perform the cross product?
$endgroup$
– DiscreteMath
Mar 22 at 20:31
$begingroup$
You can consider the "cross product" of a single vector $(a,b)$ to be the vector $(-b,a)$ perpendicular to it.
$endgroup$
– Théophile
Mar 22 at 20:32
$begingroup$
Alternatively, you could consider the two vectors in $Bbb R^2$ to have $z$-co-ordinate $0$, so that their "cross product" would be $(0,0,k)$ for some $k$. But it really depends on what you're looking for.
$endgroup$
– Théophile
Mar 22 at 20:33
$begingroup$
Point for you to ponder on - the cross product of two vectors gives a third vector, perpendicular to the original two vectors. Could you define a (meaningful) cross product in R^2 that would imitate that property? Moreover, there are similar threads to this one in MSE, I recommend you to try reading some of them :)
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– GSofer
Mar 22 at 20:29
$begingroup$
Point for you to ponder on - the cross product of two vectors gives a third vector, perpendicular to the original two vectors. Could you define a (meaningful) cross product in R^2 that would imitate that property? Moreover, there are similar threads to this one in MSE, I recommend you to try reading some of them :)
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– GSofer
Mar 22 at 20:29
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mean is in th last integral listed above... I have a parameterization defined over R^2... wondering what this degenerates to when taking R^3 formula and applying it to R^2 case...
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– DiscreteMath
Mar 22 at 20:30
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mean is in th last integral listed above... I have a parameterization defined over R^2... wondering what this degenerates to when taking R^3 formula and applying it to R^2 case...
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– DiscreteMath
Mar 22 at 20:30
$begingroup$
for example, maybe we pretend there's a 3 dimension there when we need it to perform the cross product?
$endgroup$
– DiscreteMath
Mar 22 at 20:31
$begingroup$
for example, maybe we pretend there's a 3 dimension there when we need it to perform the cross product?
$endgroup$
– DiscreteMath
Mar 22 at 20:31
$begingroup$
You can consider the "cross product" of a single vector $(a,b)$ to be the vector $(-b,a)$ perpendicular to it.
$endgroup$
– Théophile
Mar 22 at 20:32
$begingroup$
You can consider the "cross product" of a single vector $(a,b)$ to be the vector $(-b,a)$ perpendicular to it.
$endgroup$
– Théophile
Mar 22 at 20:32
$begingroup$
Alternatively, you could consider the two vectors in $Bbb R^2$ to have $z$-co-ordinate $0$, so that their "cross product" would be $(0,0,k)$ for some $k$. But it really depends on what you're looking for.
$endgroup$
– Théophile
Mar 22 at 20:33
$begingroup$
Alternatively, you could consider the two vectors in $Bbb R^2$ to have $z$-co-ordinate $0$, so that their "cross product" would be $(0,0,k)$ for some $k$. But it really depends on what you're looking for.
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– Théophile
Mar 22 at 20:33
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In $n$ dimensions, the Levi-Civita symbol has $n$ indices, two of which contract with those of two vectors whose wedge product is sought in the geometry's exterior algebra. This obtains an object with $n-2$ indices, so whereas we get a familiar vector if $n=3$, we get a scalar if $n=2$. In particular, $binom{a}{b}landbinom{c}{d}=ad-bc$.
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Great answer! I learned something new.
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– ErotemeObelus
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The cross product in 2 dimensions is a scalar give my a 2x2 determinant:
$$
(a, b) times (c, d) = begin{vmatrix}
a & b \
c & d \
end{vmatrix} = ad - cb
$$
The cross product in 3 dimensions is a vector given by the 3x3 determinant:
$$
(a, b, c) times (d, e, f) = begin{vmatrix}
e_x & e_y & e_z \
a & b & c \
d & e & f \
end{vmatrix}
$$
E. A. Abbott describes a 2D cross product nicely in his mathematical fantasy book "Flatland":
Flatland describes life and customs of people in a 2-D world: in this universe vectors can be summed together and projected, areas are calculated, rotations are clock-wise or counter clock-wise, reflection is possible... but cross product does not exist; otherwise, 2-D inhabitants should have great fantasy to imagine a 3rd dimension to contain a vector orthogonal to their plane.
By the way, in 2-D a single scalar number is sufficient to describe a force’s moment.
$$
M(vec{r}, vec{F}) = r_1 F_2 - r_2 F_2
$$
With such a definition, this operation respects all algebraic properties of cross product, but the result is a scalar.

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In $n$ dimensions, the Levi-Civita symbol has $n$ indices, two of which contract with those of two vectors whose wedge product is sought in the geometry's exterior algebra. This obtains an object with $n-2$ indices, so whereas we get a familiar vector if $n=3$, we get a scalar if $n=2$. In particular, $binom{a}{b}landbinom{c}{d}=ad-bc$.
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Great answer! I learned something new.
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– ErotemeObelus
Mar 22 at 21:25
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In $n$ dimensions, the Levi-Civita symbol has $n$ indices, two of which contract with those of two vectors whose wedge product is sought in the geometry's exterior algebra. This obtains an object with $n-2$ indices, so whereas we get a familiar vector if $n=3$, we get a scalar if $n=2$. In particular, $binom{a}{b}landbinom{c}{d}=ad-bc$.
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Great answer! I learned something new.
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– ErotemeObelus
Mar 22 at 21:25
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In $n$ dimensions, the Levi-Civita symbol has $n$ indices, two of which contract with those of two vectors whose wedge product is sought in the geometry's exterior algebra. This obtains an object with $n-2$ indices, so whereas we get a familiar vector if $n=3$, we get a scalar if $n=2$. In particular, $binom{a}{b}landbinom{c}{d}=ad-bc$.
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In $n$ dimensions, the Levi-Civita symbol has $n$ indices, two of which contract with those of two vectors whose wedge product is sought in the geometry's exterior algebra. This obtains an object with $n-2$ indices, so whereas we get a familiar vector if $n=3$, we get a scalar if $n=2$. In particular, $binom{a}{b}landbinom{c}{d}=ad-bc$.
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Great answer! I learned something new.
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– ErotemeObelus
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Great answer! I learned something new.
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The cross product in 2 dimensions is a scalar give my a 2x2 determinant:
$$
(a, b) times (c, d) = begin{vmatrix}
a & b \
c & d \
end{vmatrix} = ad - cb
$$
The cross product in 3 dimensions is a vector given by the 3x3 determinant:
$$
(a, b, c) times (d, e, f) = begin{vmatrix}
e_x & e_y & e_z \
a & b & c \
d & e & f \
end{vmatrix}
$$
E. A. Abbott describes a 2D cross product nicely in his mathematical fantasy book "Flatland":
Flatland describes life and customs of people in a 2-D world: in this universe vectors can be summed together and projected, areas are calculated, rotations are clock-wise or counter clock-wise, reflection is possible... but cross product does not exist; otherwise, 2-D inhabitants should have great fantasy to imagine a 3rd dimension to contain a vector orthogonal to their plane.
By the way, in 2-D a single scalar number is sufficient to describe a force’s moment.
$$
M(vec{r}, vec{F}) = r_1 F_2 - r_2 F_2
$$
With such a definition, this operation respects all algebraic properties of cross product, but the result is a scalar.

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The cross product in 2 dimensions is a scalar give my a 2x2 determinant:
$$
(a, b) times (c, d) = begin{vmatrix}
a & b \
c & d \
end{vmatrix} = ad - cb
$$
The cross product in 3 dimensions is a vector given by the 3x3 determinant:
$$
(a, b, c) times (d, e, f) = begin{vmatrix}
e_x & e_y & e_z \
a & b & c \
d & e & f \
end{vmatrix}
$$
E. A. Abbott describes a 2D cross product nicely in his mathematical fantasy book "Flatland":
Flatland describes life and customs of people in a 2-D world: in this universe vectors can be summed together and projected, areas are calculated, rotations are clock-wise or counter clock-wise, reflection is possible... but cross product does not exist; otherwise, 2-D inhabitants should have great fantasy to imagine a 3rd dimension to contain a vector orthogonal to their plane.
By the way, in 2-D a single scalar number is sufficient to describe a force’s moment.
$$
M(vec{r}, vec{F}) = r_1 F_2 - r_2 F_2
$$
With such a definition, this operation respects all algebraic properties of cross product, but the result is a scalar.

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The cross product in 2 dimensions is a scalar give my a 2x2 determinant:
$$
(a, b) times (c, d) = begin{vmatrix}
a & b \
c & d \
end{vmatrix} = ad - cb
$$
The cross product in 3 dimensions is a vector given by the 3x3 determinant:
$$
(a, b, c) times (d, e, f) = begin{vmatrix}
e_x & e_y & e_z \
a & b & c \
d & e & f \
end{vmatrix}
$$
E. A. Abbott describes a 2D cross product nicely in his mathematical fantasy book "Flatland":
Flatland describes life and customs of people in a 2-D world: in this universe vectors can be summed together and projected, areas are calculated, rotations are clock-wise or counter clock-wise, reflection is possible... but cross product does not exist; otherwise, 2-D inhabitants should have great fantasy to imagine a 3rd dimension to contain a vector orthogonal to their plane.
By the way, in 2-D a single scalar number is sufficient to describe a force’s moment.
$$
M(vec{r}, vec{F}) = r_1 F_2 - r_2 F_2
$$
With such a definition, this operation respects all algebraic properties of cross product, but the result is a scalar.

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The cross product in 2 dimensions is a scalar give my a 2x2 determinant:
$$
(a, b) times (c, d) = begin{vmatrix}
a & b \
c & d \
end{vmatrix} = ad - cb
$$
The cross product in 3 dimensions is a vector given by the 3x3 determinant:
$$
(a, b, c) times (d, e, f) = begin{vmatrix}
e_x & e_y & e_z \
a & b & c \
d & e & f \
end{vmatrix}
$$
E. A. Abbott describes a 2D cross product nicely in his mathematical fantasy book "Flatland":
Flatland describes life and customs of people in a 2-D world: in this universe vectors can be summed together and projected, areas are calculated, rotations are clock-wise or counter clock-wise, reflection is possible... but cross product does not exist; otherwise, 2-D inhabitants should have great fantasy to imagine a 3rd dimension to contain a vector orthogonal to their plane.
By the way, in 2-D a single scalar number is sufficient to describe a force’s moment.
$$
M(vec{r}, vec{F}) = r_1 F_2 - r_2 F_2
$$
With such a definition, this operation respects all algebraic properties of cross product, but the result is a scalar.

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answered Mar 22 at 22:59
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Point for you to ponder on - the cross product of two vectors gives a third vector, perpendicular to the original two vectors. Could you define a (meaningful) cross product in R^2 that would imitate that property? Moreover, there are similar threads to this one in MSE, I recommend you to try reading some of them :)
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– GSofer
Mar 22 at 20:29
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mean is in th last integral listed above... I have a parameterization defined over R^2... wondering what this degenerates to when taking R^3 formula and applying it to R^2 case...
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– DiscreteMath
Mar 22 at 20:30
$begingroup$
for example, maybe we pretend there's a 3 dimension there when we need it to perform the cross product?
$endgroup$
– DiscreteMath
Mar 22 at 20:31
$begingroup$
You can consider the "cross product" of a single vector $(a,b)$ to be the vector $(-b,a)$ perpendicular to it.
$endgroup$
– Théophile
Mar 22 at 20:32
$begingroup$
Alternatively, you could consider the two vectors in $Bbb R^2$ to have $z$-co-ordinate $0$, so that their "cross product" would be $(0,0,k)$ for some $k$. But it really depends on what you're looking for.
$endgroup$
– Théophile
Mar 22 at 20:33