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On The Origin of Dissonant Chords


Is there a known point in history where dissonance became acceptable?Understanding the elements of harmony in “honky-tonk” or ragtime style pianoHow do you write successive, non-functional chord progressions?Does the bass always have to harmonise with the lead?Find the origin of folkDo capable harmony singers sing in just intonation or tempered tuning?Gregorian modes in Renaissance music (with Cabezón's 'Tiento del Cuarto Tono' as an example)Origin of the BackbeatTonal harmony: 18th century counterpoint vs. Accessible contemporary harmony and compositionHow can I tell if I have good relative pitch or if I am just familiar with scales













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Without relying upon French harmonic theory (Rameau for instance), can you explain how the emergence of “freely” used dissonant chords were justified via the principles of the preceding Stile Antico (e.g. Palestrina)?



PS: Schenker is right out.










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    And then the theorists decided to play a D7(♭9 ♯9 ♯11 ♭13) chord, and the Lord did grin

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Without relying upon French harmonic theory (Rameau for instance), can you explain how the emergence of “freely” used dissonant chords were justified via the principles of the preceding Stile Antico (e.g. Palestrina)?



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    And then the theorists decided to play a D7(♭9 ♯9 ♯11 ♭13) chord, and the Lord did grin

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    – Laprtsenia
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Without relying upon French harmonic theory (Rameau for instance), can you explain how the emergence of “freely” used dissonant chords were justified via the principles of the preceding Stile Antico (e.g. Palestrina)?



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  • 4





    And then the theorists decided to play a D7(♭9 ♯9 ♯11 ♭13) chord, and the Lord did grin

    – user45266
    7 hours ago











  • @user45266 - Thanks. That chord sounds like utter crap.

    – Laprtsenia
    38 mins ago












  • 4





    And then the theorists decided to play a D7(♭9 ♯9 ♯11 ♭13) chord, and the Lord did grin

    – user45266
    7 hours ago











  • @user45266 - Thanks. That chord sounds like utter crap.

    – Laprtsenia
    38 mins ago







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And then the theorists decided to play a D7(♭9 ♯9 ♯11 ♭13) chord, and the Lord did grin

– user45266
7 hours ago





And then the theorists decided to play a D7(♭9 ♯9 ♯11 ♭13) chord, and the Lord did grin

– user45266
7 hours ago













@user45266 - Thanks. That chord sounds like utter crap.

– Laprtsenia
38 mins ago





@user45266 - Thanks. That chord sounds like utter crap.

– Laprtsenia
38 mins ago










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Without checking, I would guess that chords (or tone arrangements) generally considered dissonant arose from combinations of melodic lines. The composers (or performers) who generated the music decided that a good melodic line trumped a good harmonic sound.



One sees something similar in the common practice period. Moving bass lines (like a walking bass) often "ignore" the surrounding harmony to move melodically to a scale tone. (One can play C-G-A-B-C against a C major chord without causing too much havoc.) Similarly for melodic lines.



Dissonance isn't "bad sounding" nor "antii-harmonic"; it merely signals the "desire" (or raises the expectation from previous association) of movement. Dissonance also makes the dissonant note (or note cluster) stand out and can be use to highlight a part (instead of just playing a note louder. It adds a sort of accent that is different from (though can work well with) syncopation, loudness, change of register or instrumentation, etc.






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    Without checking, I would guess that chords (or tone arrangements) generally considered dissonant arose from combinations of melodic lines. The composers (or performers) who generated the music decided that a good melodic line trumped a good harmonic sound.



    One sees something similar in the common practice period. Moving bass lines (like a walking bass) often "ignore" the surrounding harmony to move melodically to a scale tone. (One can play C-G-A-B-C against a C major chord without causing too much havoc.) Similarly for melodic lines.



    Dissonance isn't "bad sounding" nor "antii-harmonic"; it merely signals the "desire" (or raises the expectation from previous association) of movement. Dissonance also makes the dissonant note (or note cluster) stand out and can be use to highlight a part (instead of just playing a note louder. It adds a sort of accent that is different from (though can work well with) syncopation, loudness, change of register or instrumentation, etc.






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      Without checking, I would guess that chords (or tone arrangements) generally considered dissonant arose from combinations of melodic lines. The composers (or performers) who generated the music decided that a good melodic line trumped a good harmonic sound.



      One sees something similar in the common practice period. Moving bass lines (like a walking bass) often "ignore" the surrounding harmony to move melodically to a scale tone. (One can play C-G-A-B-C against a C major chord without causing too much havoc.) Similarly for melodic lines.



      Dissonance isn't "bad sounding" nor "antii-harmonic"; it merely signals the "desire" (or raises the expectation from previous association) of movement. Dissonance also makes the dissonant note (or note cluster) stand out and can be use to highlight a part (instead of just playing a note louder. It adds a sort of accent that is different from (though can work well with) syncopation, loudness, change of register or instrumentation, etc.






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        Without checking, I would guess that chords (or tone arrangements) generally considered dissonant arose from combinations of melodic lines. The composers (or performers) who generated the music decided that a good melodic line trumped a good harmonic sound.



        One sees something similar in the common practice period. Moving bass lines (like a walking bass) often "ignore" the surrounding harmony to move melodically to a scale tone. (One can play C-G-A-B-C against a C major chord without causing too much havoc.) Similarly for melodic lines.



        Dissonance isn't "bad sounding" nor "antii-harmonic"; it merely signals the "desire" (or raises the expectation from previous association) of movement. Dissonance also makes the dissonant note (or note cluster) stand out and can be use to highlight a part (instead of just playing a note louder. It adds a sort of accent that is different from (though can work well with) syncopation, loudness, change of register or instrumentation, etc.






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        Without checking, I would guess that chords (or tone arrangements) generally considered dissonant arose from combinations of melodic lines. The composers (or performers) who generated the music decided that a good melodic line trumped a good harmonic sound.



        One sees something similar in the common practice period. Moving bass lines (like a walking bass) often "ignore" the surrounding harmony to move melodically to a scale tone. (One can play C-G-A-B-C against a C major chord without causing too much havoc.) Similarly for melodic lines.



        Dissonance isn't "bad sounding" nor "antii-harmonic"; it merely signals the "desire" (or raises the expectation from previous association) of movement. Dissonance also makes the dissonant note (or note cluster) stand out and can be use to highlight a part (instead of just playing a note louder. It adds a sort of accent that is different from (though can work well with) syncopation, loudness, change of register or instrumentation, etc.







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